Deus Ex- reject augmention

[Togs]

Transhumanism has always seemed mildly delusional to me- it means messing with things we dont yet understand, contravening natural systems that have developed over millenia in the arrogant belief we know better.
For the most part Im all for scientific progress, but augmentation is a step too far.
I wouldnt just be part of Purity First, I would have bloody founded it.

 

[The Lugz]

The second trailer was genuinely unsettling once they got to the bits about the drugs. Before that, I was rolling my eyes. I don't subscribe to the "humans are perfect the way we are because we're human" circular logic pattern

well, in fairness we are better than anything else we know of, so having a little ego over it is hardly surprising i guess?

 

[Isaac The Grape]

Double post-Ignore

 

[Isaac The Grape]

Lolololololol. But what if he catches it?

(O_O)

It's a ticking time bomb! A J.C. bomb!

OH MY GOD! J.C.! A BOMB!

"And please J.C., stay out of the ladies restrooms"

Thread derailment complete

500 skill points awarded.

Will you pick rifles or computers? Don't pick swimming, because, it's fairly useless!

I'd go with Computers over rifles. Once you get that up to advanced you never have to learn passwords again and you can also control gun turrets. Rifles is not very useful until the NYC mission (unless you use the sawn-off, which is the second worst weapon in the game. The worst is the LAW due to it's large inventory size and totally impractical blast area). I've always started with Advanced pistols and then put plenty of upgrades into them while carrying a Sniper Rifle and picking up the GEP gun at the Airport mission. And swimming can actually be helpful if you absolutely must get every XP point you can for exploration.

 

[KaizokuouHasu]

Immuno-suppresants are never a good thing.

Unless you have an autoimmune disease. Then I imagine they'd be pretty handy.

Very. Otherwise your body will literally destroy itself and leave you vulnerable. Simple colds can be fatal. Scaaary~.

On-topic. The only thing I would ever do when it comes to mechanical parts; eyes. Other than that I'll hold on to my limbs. I've got a fear of dismemberment. o_o
Or we could wait for another 2 decades when they have Nano-Augs!

 

[teebeeohh]

well we already know both sarif industries and tai-something(the big Asian company) will fall and/or be bought by versalife.
Deus ex has always been highly critical about augmentations themselves, in that you can easily put a kill switch into nano-augs and mechanical augmentations require more maintenance than an old car but as an agent you need those things because the bad guys have them and so you need them too. reminds me a little of how gene therapy is handled in the ME universe in that it is super expansive and you are not allowed to give people abilities humans don't have but each and every soldier get's their natural speed and strength and such increased.

Also: if the government were able to control big corporations properly they could keep the price the drug down since it arguably is life changing, you can't just argue that people who get augmentations should be prepared to pay if the stuff keeps getting more and more expansive.

 

[CFriis87]

Alright... knowing what I know from the game so far, I'd get augmentations.
I know that a lot of what's spouted in the second trailer is sensationalist speculation and fear-mongering bullshit, coming from people who only know little parts of whats going on and put those little parts together to paint as scary a picture as possible.
Right at the beginning of the game you learn that Sarif scientists have discovered a way to make the Neuropozine drug unnecessary and obsolete... and they have every reason to put that out since they are not the people producing and selling Neuropozine... that would be Versalife.
While the beginning of the game is all about keeping an ethically troublesome military prototype augmentation secret throughout two attacks on Sarif Industries, I'm guessing the attacks were all about the DNA research to make Neuropozine unnecessary while having the top secret so-called Typhoon augmentation act as a sort of red herring.

 

[CFriis87]

well we already know both sarif industries and tai-something(the big Asian company) will fall and/or be bought by versalife.
Deus ex has always been highly critical about augmentations themselves, in that you can easily put a kill switch into nano-augs and mechanical augmentations require more maintenance than an old car but as an agent you need those things because the bad guys have them and so you need them too. reminds me a little of how gene therapy is handled in the ME universe in that it is super expansive and you are not allowed to give people abilities humans don't have but each and every soldier get's their natural speed and strength and such increased.

Also: if the government were able to control big corporations properly they could keep the price the drug down since it arguably is life changing, you can't just argue that people who get augmentations should be prepared to pay if the stuff keeps getting more and more expansive.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing how they'll make the downfall of Sarif part of all the multiple endings I've hear the game has.

 

[x EvilErmine x]

From all of the trailers i have seen, this game is looking like it will be made of awesome. They are doing a good job of fleshing out the world of Deus Ex. I just hope the game can live up to my high expectations of it.

OT
No i would not get any augmentations unless i have no other alternative. My natural limbs are better than any augmentations. No they don't give me super powers but on the other hand they are mine and my body knows them and wont reject them leaving me dependent on pricy and dangerous drugs, my natural parts wont transmit info about me to anyone, and they can't be shut down remotely without me having any way to stop it.

 

[RadiusXd]

Hell to the addiction, you can work past that. It's the whole 'take the drugs or your body rejects the augmentations as if they were parasites' that kinda breaks the deal for me It's one problem to be addicted, it's another to need it to keep your augmentations.

The second video was genuinely unsettling.

It's also a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

If you don't take the drug, your body will reject it, with the central nervous system isolating itself from the augmentation, rendering it useless.

If you do take the drug to suppress the rejection and preserve the nerve-aug connection, you compromise your immune system and the nervous system's maintenance mechanisms. That makes you vulnerable, among other things, to the JC Virus [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JC_virus] (which pretty much everyone is already infected with), which causes Progressive Multifocal Leukoencephalopathy. There is no known cure.

that link you provided has a treatments section with a documented successful eradication of the JC_virus from a patient.
as a side note, I thought it was in-game lore with JC being the first games protagonist and all.

 

[Zing]

Honestly that live action trailer got me really excited for the game. The game's narrative could be up their with Bioshock on making you think. It was really good.

 

[BenzSmoke]

At first I was like "Oh they're like prosthetic limbs, made to help people."
Then I saw the second trailer and I was like "Shhhhhiiiiii..."

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

I might augment if I lost a limb or something, and that drug part kinda freaks me out a bit.

BUT, if I got a chance to do it for funsies, then I would totally get my eyes augmented. Think of all the fun that could be had with that!

 

[Imperium9990]

Yes I would definitely get augmented. The second video is just fear mongering propaganda, and by some of the reactions in this thread, it worked . Yeah the neuroprozine thing is a bit scary but at the beginning of the game they had already found out how to make it so that you would never need the drug.. Ever.

But even if I didn't know this I would still get augmented. I'd probably start off with getting an intelligence aug, memory aug, and maybe the social enhancer. The way I see it is yeah the drug is expensive but since I'd be augmented I'd already be ahead of most people. That means I have tons of job options, from accountant, security expert(computers), bouncer/bodyguard, as far as job opportunities go, if I'm sufficiently augmented the skies the limit, plus the social enhancer(personality readings, and pheromones ftw), would almost guarantee me a job. Provided that I applied in person.

So yeah it would be expensive to pay for the drug all the time, but I would probably have no trouble affording it. After I get my self settled I might get some more augs, like eyes, and arms. I think the argument of "giving up your humanity" is a stupid one. If by giving up your humanity, means being weak, and less capable. Then I'd give up being "human" any day.

Also what about the people with pace makers, artificial hearts, and prosthetic limbs today? They obviously haven't given up their humanity. Lastly if push comes to shove with the whole affording drugs things. I'll just go military. If I'm useful enough to them I'm sure they'll pay for my fix.

 

[Coldie]

that link you provided has a treatments section with a documented successful eradication of the JC_virus from a patient.
as a side note, I thought it was in-game lore with JC being the first games protagonist and all.

A single successful case (out of more than a hundred in that study alone) does not a cure make, although it is a good first step towards one. There's also recurrence to consider and the possibility of later stages of PML being irreversibly damaging.

Surely there has to be a better way to handle neuroimplants without this whole immuno-suppressing business. Come on Versalife, show us what you've got.