Developer Blames "American Culture" for Greenlight Ban

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While I mostly agree about the comments on the Western culture, I'm taking Steam's side in this case.

Maybe if the game had more to offer than titillation it could get by, and "strategy light" elements don't count.

It also just seems like a rip off sort of game. Why would I pay money for this? I mean there's already a lot of crap on steam, but we don't need to shack the shit pile any higher.
 

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They ban this game because its too offensive, yet they sell The Witcher 2, which has full blown Sex scenes with near full frontal nudity, not to mention gratuitous violence... Hypocritical much?

I want this game to come out so I can play it JUST BECAUSE steam banned it now.
 

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Boudica said:
Maximize your relationship score with one of the four main female characters and you win the game, getting yet another erotic cut scene as a reward.
Women are a sex vending-machine; max our your points, put in enough friendship tokens and you get to have sex with them!

*sigh*
This 100%, this is why *I* have an issue with the game and am happy it isn't greenlit. Similarly thanks (to the developer) for simply creating another justification for stereotyping of gamers. I'm happy your game isn't coming to Steam.

Also, Violence v. Sex thing in America: I never actually see this as true. I see just as much 'sex' as I do Violence. Just because its not outright penetration doesn't mean Sex isn't everywhere here in the US.
 

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aceman67 said:
They ban this game because its too offensive, yet they sell The Witcher 2, which has full blown Sex scenes with near full frontal nudity, not to mention gratuitous violence... Hypocritical much?

I want this game to come out so I can play it JUST BECAUSE steam banned it now.
No, it's not hypocritical. The Witcher 2 is a full blown game with lots of content, and the fact that the sex scenes are hardly what anyone would consider to be "main content in the game". This game is a full on sex game. There's no bloody reason for it to be on steam, otherwise we'll get Newgrounds 2.0. If you really want to make your sex game, self publish, because (rightly so) you'll get refused by everyone.
 

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Doesn't sound like a particularly compelling game but... I find it funny that a game where people are trying to improve their personal relationship to a point of a natural act that pretty much everyone experiences at some time in their life is "offensive". Yet games where people routinely maim and kill each other are not offensive.

Real life sex = normal. Game sex = offensive.
Game killing = normal. Real life killing = offensive.
Real Life Sex = Something that you have to work a long time at, because if you want anything from it other then sex, you have to do more then pay 2 grand

Ingame Sex = Take a look at the feminism arguments against porn. These are all fully legitimate in Videogames.

Basically, the problem isnt sex, so much as how sex is portrayed in games
 

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And here I thought they pulled this game because it sounds stupid...like it was created by someone who really loves things like Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey.
 

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I find it odd too how they glossed over they weren't going to get the votes to get on Steam even if it had stayed because half the people who voted for it downvoted it. I guess the Steam community too is a bunch of prudes? Or they made some really nasty assumptions about gamers and sex...
 

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Good god that game looks like an awful piece of shit. Reminds me of those crap games Disney and Nickelodeon put out where you live the life of their TV shows except it's just shitty 2D worlds with text boxes and really awkward dialogue.

Maybe make a decent game that's not just some shit sex 'rpg' picture book.
 

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Kind of disappointing how so many Escapist are coming down on the wrong side of the argument here. I'm not considering the gameplay or quality of the game here, sure it's probably garbage, but that's not the point. It's not porn with full penetration is it? you don't see erect cocks on every other screen? Game's should be allowed to have sexual content just like films are. Western culture in general just needs to not be so afraid of any kind of sexual content.
 

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LightspeedJack said:
Kind of disappointing how so many Escapist are coming down on the wrong side of the argument here. I'm not considering the gameplay or quality of the game here, sure it's probably garbage, but that's not the point. It's not porn with full penetration is it? you don't see erect cocks on every other screen? Game's should be allowed to have sexual content just like films are. Western culture in general just needs to not be so afraid of any kind of sexual content.
It's a sex game. The basis of the game is on sex. Movies that have a general basis on sex are called...Porn! Just because a porn video has what can only be described as a "semblance of a plot" does not make it a movie, it's still porn.

There's an enormous difference between including sex in a game and building your game around sex (like this game). Including sex in a game is fine (see: Witcher 2, Mass Effect), but building your game around sex will just make your game the same generic sex game that you see on any porn site.
 

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Well its obvious that Steam wasn't offended by the sex, they were offended by how shit it was.
For what Valve are, I suppose they were expecting the head to be good... Nobody likes shitty head.
 

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LightspeedJack said:
Kind of disappointing how so many Escapist are coming down on the wrong side of the argument here. I'm not considering the gameplay or quality of the game here, sure it's probably garbage, but that's not the point. It's not porn with full penetration is it? you don't see erect cocks on every other screen? Game's should be allowed to have sexual content just like films are. Western culture in general just needs to not be so afraid of any kind of sexual content.
There is plenty of GAMES with sex in them. Mass Effect, The Witcher, GTA, etc.. There difference is those were just games, not porn with a mini game in it. Also those games don't have explicit shots of vagina and penis and penetration.
 

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Boudica said:
Maximize your relationship score with one of the four main female characters and you win the game, getting yet another erotic cut scene as a reward.
Women are a sex vending-machine; max our your points, put in enough friendship tokens and you get to have sex with them!

*sigh*
Wait, wait wait...this isn't how dating works? Damn, have I been doing it wrong.
 

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Valve then sent another letter to No Reply Games explaining that this had nothing to do with a "prude american attitude", they said, 'We'd just prefer if if our customers didn't waste their money on junk.' Valve then urged potential buyers to 'just watch porn instead.'
 

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Boudica said:
Maximize your relationship score with one of the four main female characters and you win the game, getting yet another erotic cut scene as a reward.
Women are a sex vending-machine; max our your points, put in enough friendship tokens and you get to have sex with them!

*sigh*
They have VN/eroge for women where it's the same thing, except with a female protagonist and male love interests.

That's just the genre.
 

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Zipa said:
Maybe they should focus on making like a actual real game then, not just a better looking version of those dodgy flash games you sometimes see advertised.
This. Props to Steam for gracefully saving the evenings of hundreds of pre-menopausal women (leaving more time to read crap like 50 Shades of Gray).

Boudica said:
Maximize your relationship score with one of the four main female characters and you win the game, getting yet another erotic cut scene as a reward.
Women are a sex vending-machine; max our your points, put in enough friendship tokens and you get to have sex with them!

*sigh*
Not only was the game made by a woman, I'd be willing to bet all my sex tokens that over 80% of the audience of this type of game is female too.