Diablo 3's Leah is one of the worst characters ever.

[ShadowsofHope]

But Leah was justification to give Diablo tits!

DIABLO

TITS

To clarify, Diablo's transformed form after he is shed of Leah's body is a fusion of all seven lesser/prime evils from within the Black Soulstone, not just a visage of Diablo himself (although his personality is dominant, so it looks more "Diablo" than the others). The breasts on his body at that point are presumably Andariel's, from Diablo 2.

If that is what you meant.

 

[Sexy Devil]

Somehow I don't think Blizzard were really focussed on consistent characters and the like when making the game.

What were they focusing on then? The gameplay is fun but not exactly worth the ridiculous development time. The graphics look like WoW's, the story is retarded. What could they possibly have been focusing on in all that time?

 

[Charli]

I really didn't give a flying flap about the story...

I knew everything that was going to happen a mile away. It was horribly predictable. It's basically Raiding that you can do on your own (but blizzard doesn't think you should be)

You get more gear, you try new challenges, you eventually reach a pinnacle, you get bored and go play something else.

I'm not bothered I paid for the game with my WoW subscription... It's kinda 'something else me and my guild can do when raids are cleared and we've run out of things to do with each other'.

 

[Rednog]

I can see that someone was listening to the TGS podcast.
That said, it's blizzard...they aren't exactly masters at crafting believable characters, much less "good guys". They are only good at characters that are tragic, ie Illidan or Thrall.

 

[aba1]

Character is retarded because the developer is.

Fixed no need to thank me

 

[Jaeke]

***** becomes diablo anyway so who the fuck cares eh?

This. If you don't like her, you kill her anyway. If you do (which I did but only because of the VO, she was Ophelia from Brutal Legend so +1000 for her) then its not really a big deal.

 

[Jaeke]

How weird, since Blizzard is known for creating deep and intresting characters, fantastic plotlines that very well connects with previous games and also restraint when it comes to references taking over major parts of a storyline...

Oh wait...

True, same as using "10.000 years since I was imprisoned/released/kidnapped/resurrected" as a plotline, which they use in every single game. It's like 10.000 is the magic number.

Still, Leah is really taking the cake with her stupidity.

I actually don't think she takes the cake, Garrosh Hellscream in WoW kills a general because the general did exactly what Garrosh told him to.

No, I'm serious.

Didn't Garrosh die in WC3?

Jokes, forgot blizzard flushed the lore down the toilet when it came to WoW

I will say I thought Starcraft had a great story, SC2 was good too. Just not quite as sweet as the first and it's expansion.

That was Grom, you unholy non-fanboy. Just kidding.

But yeah I agree with the first part, I LOVED SC and SC:BW but I thought SC2 blew it out of the water.

 

[Freechoice]

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Thank you! I was worried no one would appreciate that post. I spent half an hour trying to make it not be a try hard.

Sounds like the writers from Mass Effect 2 managed to found work.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0454331/

Open the writer tab.

But Leah was justification to give Diablo tits!

DIABLO

TITS

To clarify, Diablo's transformed form after he is shed of Leah's body is a fusion of all seven lesser/prime evils from within the Black Soulstone, not just a visage of Diablo himself (although his personality is dominant, so it looks more "Diablo" than the others). The breasts on his body at that point are presumably Andariel's, from Diablo 2.

If that is what you meant.

It's not.

 

[Zhukov]

Somehow I don't think Blizzard were really focussed on consistent characters and the like when making the game.

What were they focusing on then? The gameplay is fun but not exactly worth the ridiculous development time. The graphics look like WoW's, the story is retarded. What could they possibly have been focusing on in all that time?

Presumably they were focussed on gameplay mechanics and balance.

Note that I'm not defending the developer or advocating the game. Whether or not they succeeded in their focus is up for debate. However, I think it's safe to say that those things were considered by the developers to be much more important than characters and dialogue.

 

[The Human Torch]

Let's not even go into the fact that the previous demonic invasion happened 10 years ago, so she should be able to remember something of that, plus all the undead that pop up after the meteor strikes.

20 years bro. I think she was just a baby then. Or something. Not that it matters, your argument still stands.

I stand corrected then.

But yeah, 10 or 20 years, with all this stuff happening around here, why won't she acknowledge it? It's like watching the first couple of seasons of the X-Files, with me yelling at the TV why Skully just won't see the truth around her.

 

[The Human Torch]

Somehow I don't think Blizzard were really focussed on consistent characters and the like when making the game.

What were they focusing on then? The gameplay is fun but not exactly worth the ridiculous development time. The graphics look like WoW's, the story is retarded. What could they possibly have been focusing on in all that time?

Presumably they were focussed on gameplay mechanics and balance.

Note that I'm not defending the developer or advocating the game. Whether or not they succeeded in their focus is up for debate. However, I think it's safe to say that those things were considered by the developers to be much more important than characters and dialogue.

One of the things that baffled me, was when in one of the Yogscast videos (specifically the one where they to go the Diablo 3 midnight launch in London) and have a a very short interview with 2 of the developers.
They say that Diablo 3 has been in development for 6 years, but they started working on it 10 years ago, trying out different engines and such, but that those first 4 years don't count as development time. This had me raising my eyebrow to the ceiling. With such a mentality, it's no wonder that they take decades to finish a game.

Here is the video in question:

 

[tzimize]

Somehow I don't think Blizzard were really focussed on consistent characters and the like when making the game.

I mean, who on earth plays a Diablo game for the story characters?

Diablo 2 actually had a very cool story. Diablo 3 is drivel. I am extremely disappoint. Luckily, that is (along with always online), probably the only weak link in D3. If this post seems short, its because I want to play more. Bye

 

[hegoken]

Hey The Human Torch,
Allow me to retort against your arguments against Leah and what you would call plot holes regarding Leah.

Leah wasn't denying the existence of demons, or evil and such. What she was disbelieving was the 'end of days' prophecy that Cain was trying to explain. The fact that the evil will rise again and threaten all existence is a rather difficult thing to believe, especially when the 3 prime evils have been destroyed along with their soul stones. (which she could think is a wild tale from an old man's imagination.)

Remember, not everyone believes/know diablo and the other evils exist. The average person probably only believe they're just monsters of this world and not proper demons. Not everyone seeks tomes of our worlds existence like Cain did.

She's been traveling with Deckard all over the place and even said herself that she had to fight some monsters. But that's simply a common occurrence in Sanctuary. You even pick up notes and books from other researchers of the various monsters in the game, which proves monsters have ALWAYS been around. So Leah didn't regard that as unusual.

The stories of Tyreal helping Deckard and the heroes out in pandemonium, killing the prime evils, soul stones , the demon lords returning to threaten to world once more coming from a 90 year old man who does nothing but research ancient scriptures doesn't exactly seem...sane?

She hasn't seen ANY evidence of the end of days until a meteor crashed into the cathedral. This points out that things like that must happen if they actually call falling stones from space meteors.

It wasn't until the vision of Tyreal racing through her mind where she realized how real and accurate Cain's stories really were.

This is how I interpreted the story, and this is why I can see Leah as a very nice story component.

 

[jehk]

They say that Diablo 3 has been in development for 6 years, but they started working on it 10 years ago, trying out different engines and such, but that those first 4 years don't count as development time. This had me raising my eyebrow to the ceiling. With such a mentality, it's no wonder that they take decades to finish a game.

This is pretty standard across the entire software industry to an extent.

Those first 4 years were probably filled with research and testing of ideas. See proof of concept. Meaning they didn't spend their time developing content that was intended to be part of the final shippable product.

 

[Nerexor]

Hey The Human Torch,
Allow me to retort against your arguments against Leah and what you would call plot holes regarding Leah.

Leah wasn't denying the existence of demons, or evil and such. What she was disbelieving was the 'end of days' prophecy that Cain was trying to explain. The fact that the evil will rise again and threaten all existence is a rather difficult thing to believe, especially when the 3 prime evils have been destroyed along with their soul stones. (which she could think is a wild tale from an old man's imagination.)

Remember, not everyone believes/know diablo and the other evils exist. The average person probably only believe they're just monsters of this world and not proper demons. Not everyone seeks tomes of our worlds existence like Cain did.

She's been traveling with Deckard all over the place and even said herself that she had to fight some monsters. But that's simply a common occurrence in Sanctuary. You even pick up notes and books from other researchers of the various monsters in the game, which proves monsters have ALWAYS been around. So Leah didn't regard that as unusual.

The stories of Tyreal helping Deckard and the heroes out in pandemonium, killing the prime evils, soul stones , the demon lords returning to threaten to world once more coming from a 90 year old man who does nothing but research ancient scriptures doesn't exactly seem...sane?

She hasn't seen ANY evidence of the end of days until a meteor crashed into the cathedral. This points out that things like that must happen if they actually call falling stones from space meteors.

It wasn't until the vision of Tyreal racing through her mind where she realized how real and accurate Cain's stories really were.

This is how I interpreted the story, and this is why I can see Leah as a very nice story component.

This. Also keep in mind it's not like everyone in the world dealt directly with the prime evils. They would have seen an upswing in horrible looking monsters, and presumably gotten the hell out of dodge. There's a reason that there are maybe 20 people in every town in Diablo 2 and 3, everyone else ran the hell away when monsters ate the real estate, or got eaten (along with the real estate).

As for not believing in angels, in Sanctuary I can buy that. Leah has been told the prime evils have attacked the world twice in force while the high heavens... well, I'm assuming they were on angel dust or something (the real reason for them being the "high" heavens ) So old uncle Deckard yammers on about angels and fate and the end of the world... crazy old man.

If anything, the Tristram arc is the only bit of the plot that made a lot of sense. My problem with the story is that EVERYONE is busy holding on to the idiot ball for the whole plot.

Adria's motives: Pretty frackin obvious. She comes out of nowhere, has all the knowledge about an ominous artifact and she makes Leah do all the work containing it.

The stranger's identity: Really, really obvious. Cain should have called it from minute 1.

Belial's Identity: SO MUCH OBVIOUSNESS! HE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN WEARING A SIGN! Lord of lies my ass...

And finally, to those saying Leah is the worst character ever, I have two words: HEY! LISTEN!

 

[Carboncrown]

That's not nearly as bad as a very peculiar flaw in the story as a whole, we'll call it:

"Wait, why did you tell me that...?"

Maghda: "Well done, you got your sword piece, but you will never recover the second one, it's held in !" Okay...Why did you tell me that?

Spoiler: While a bit silly, justified by the fact that

only nephalem may enter the temple.

Azmodan (spelling check) "Foolish girl, my armies will pour from the mountains of and take over the world!" Okay...Why did you tell her that?

This on the other hand, was the only subtle part of the game, and actually pretty neat.

Spoiler

Azmodan isn't talking to Leah, but to Diablo.

 

[WoW Killer]

Haha, well I'm not going to attempt to defend Blizzard's writing by any means, but worst character ever?

Seriously, how many games have you played? At least Leah has dialogue, no matter how poor, and at least she has a personality, even if it is flawed. There are literally hundreds of game characters over the years that lack both of these things, be it Mario, Link, L-Block or whatever. That's right, Mario has a shit story. It doesn't detract from the gameplay.

As for worst game character ever, my vote goes to Hamlet from Illusion of Gaia. Yes, Princess Kara's pet pig and game mascot, whose sole plot-changing action is a valiant ultimate sacrifice by throwing himself onto an open fire in order to save a starving tribe. Those easily upset may wish to look away now:

A truly moving and cinematic moment in gaming right there.

 

[CAPTCHA]

The blacksmith was cool. I found myself actually listening to the story of how he met his wife. It put killing her into persepective somewhat.

 

[BiscuitWheels]

Really, the best character in the game is Covetous Shen. I can listen to James Hong all day.

Captcha: Smashed Potatoe
Now we know what Dan Quayle has been up to.

 

[T3hSource]

Torchlight II kthx bye
Yeah,I get the whining about Leah being an inconsistent character,and believe it or not some people DO play Diablo 3 for the story,I admit myself that the mythos appeals to me,it's just an extremist universe where hell and heaven are real worlds in constant war.Of course you're the Mary Sue hero that will decimate anything in your way.