Diablo III Sells Like Crazy

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phoenix352

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Andronicus said:
phoenix352 said:
so many players hate this new incarnation of diablo its uncanny
Apparently not.

I honestly don't know why gamers even bother complaining, when all they do is go out and buy this crap anyway. You think giving them your money is enough to make Blizzard listen to you? Do you think they care that you're unhappy that they always have to be online, when you've already shown you're quite willing to fork out for it? This happens time and time again; big developer produces increasingly derivative games, decked out with the latest in fuck-the-consumers whizz-bang DRM technology, which is hacked to pieces within hours of release anyway, all the fanbase is in uproar (and invariably in the right), and then all of a sudden it doesn't even matter, because the games just broke sales records in several countries, and the devs and publishers are rolling in money.

At this point, I wouldn't even care if the game comes equipped with specialised virus software that invades the users computer and wipes the harddrive if it detects even the slightest hint of a pirated file, because everyone would just buy the damned thing anyway. The problem is gamers getting all in a huff about it. Just shuttup, ok? Because noone is listening to you, and noone even cares.
yeah no, there are no numbers that prove it either way all the pre-orders and sold copies are obvious just people who bought the game solely on blizzard former good name and brand loyalty and the obvious few people who buy games without caring there are a lot of people who dislike this game if there were a way to count them then id tell you exactly how many .... but those sale numbers do not in fact reflect how people like the game just that they bought it.

its like mass effect 3 a shit load of people love the game but its more then evident that a HUGE number of people just on the main bioware forums hated the ending .. that's a major sample group and you know that isn't a small thing even tho they kept saying how super duper sale figures prove people liked it , which they didn't.


while sure people are still going to buy shit from developers and than thank them for it there are always people who won't . i didn't buy diablo 3 even tho i really want to play it
because iam not paying 60$ for a gimped product designed to extort more money from me while being online only.

and by sticking to my reasoning and telling people about it on forums or in conversation they get a better view of the game and make better decisions .



that's how you change things, not by giving in because your sick of reading about how disappointed people are at the games features and then seeing sale figures from the company and thinking they are all hypocrites.

most of the people who are disappointed didn't know things are THIS bad, they knew its a blizzard game .. known for its polished games but diablo 3 is riddled with issues that existed years ago on WoW they just didn't care to fix. things like this make people disappointed and annoyed and angry and they have the right to be and warn other people.

so yeah i think A lot of people hate diablo 3 even if some numbers and some nice bs PR statements claim differently.
 

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Yes, I can see the complaints about the DRM for Diablo 3. Generally though, for those who have bought it, (myself included), the game is WORTH IT. The biggest issue I've had is the server issues on the first day, which have generally been alleviated.
 

BrotherRool

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The thing about these numbers is 3.5 million sales in 24 hours doesn't have much to do with the quality of the game and much much more to do with the quality of the PR. There weren't even any reviews out, although they did have the beta I guess.

The sales afterwards when people actually know more about the game are going to be the telling ones. Still they will do well, the consensus now seems to be a good game that is very much Diablo 2.8, but then Diablo 2 was a fantastic game.
 

DrOswald

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See this is why gamer's can't have nice things. Mass effect has a bad ending and it get's boycotted, Diablo 3 barely works and it sells like crazy.
Me and my wife both got Diablo 3 because it was a game we could play together. On launch day there was one hour when we would have liked to play the game but we could not. Other than that is has run perfectly for both of us. I have known 5 others who have had no problems at all except the launch day crap. Moving from anecdotal to practical data, all reports indicate other problems only effect a very small portion of the user base, the same kind of crap that happens on every PC release. Saying it "barely works" is nothing short of a lie. If you are going to damn the game damn it for what it really is. Exaggerating the problems as you are indicates you believe your position is so weak that you can't get by without misrepresenting the problem. You are showing that these problems don't actually matter because you yourself believe them so inconsequential that people will not take it seriously. So stop exaggerating, it weakens the very real and valid point you are trying to make. (Though I personally believe that the crap ME3 ending is much worse than always on DRM and launch day problems.)

Now, I will be the first to say that the launch day failures were unacceptable. If you are going to require always on DRM it is unacceptable for your servers to go down for anything except standard maintenance, especially on launch day. And there are a whole bunch other things that are legitimate complaints, but I find them hard to care about when the game overall is so excellent.

4 years ago always on DRM would have been a deal breaker for me, But now days games that me and my wife can play together are extremely rare. I would be a fool to pass up one of the best in years because of the minor annoyance of always on DRM.
 

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Yes I ended up buying it to play with my stepdad, yes I'm enjoying it, yes a feel dirty.

The game is pretty fun, They could of done A LOT more to it though, It's very simple their could be way more choice, it is missing a heck of a lot of easily inputted things, makes you think what have they been doing all this time?

they should o doubled the amounts of runes and passive skills and let the player choose their stats if they so wish.

It could also be a little longer, maybe have some story that is more interactive. Defo could of used a character appearance creator. graphs aren't really super great.

Seems like it lacks effort. The core gameplay is still fun, running around picking up stuff and mashing stuff. the crafting system is cool. Could of been better. Always online thing is annoying, there should of been an offline char choice that cannot go online and an always online choice that allows you to play with other people. kinda like hellgate.

few more skills would be nice. Bit more choice as to when to unlock them too.
 

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Diablo 3 is excellent so it deserv-BAHAHAHAAHAAA. Sorry, couldn't do it with a straight face.

Diablo 3 has done a couple things fairly solidly, and a whole slew of things so incredibly sloppily that if even half of those 6 million think the game is "excellent", I've no hope for humanity. Either way, I'm done with them. Blizzard has been getting consistently shittier as a game dev, and they're going to keep going down that route until they hit rock bottom.

In other news, Diablo 3 thread is infested with binary thinking and deserves to be nuked.
Just out of curiosity, what do you think is so bad about Diablo 3? I personally find the game excellent, probably a 4/5. What in particular for you drags it down to less than excellent? What are you comparing it to?
 

Ushiromiya Battler

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1. Bought the game.
2. Waited a day(experience from practically every game relying on servers).
3. Played without a problem.
4. Love the game.
5. Don't give a shit about always online when it actually works.
6. America is apparently getting gig network lines.
7. Always online is the future.
8. And stop being so bloody hostile, hate it all you want, but stop harassing people who bought it.
9. Good job Blizzard, continue actually being nice and don't turn out like Activision.
 

lancar

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The only reason Blizzard is getting away with it is due to it being Blizzard. If you're going to add cow dung to the cake, people better be so convinced that the rest of the cake is the best thing ever or it's not gonna sell.

Still, this does set a precedent for other publishers to follow. The industry loves to hop on the bandwagon of terrible ideas, after all, and this can only mean bad news for the consumer.

Again...
 

Airthey

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In related news, water is confirmed to be wet, and scientists discover bacon is tasty...
 

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Eh, I bought it as I was looking for a new loot 'em up and played the shit out of the first two when I was younger.

Aside from the outages last Sunday (which were largely ignored as it was just our EU servers, not the US target audience) it's been fairly stable, and good fun.

I get the vibe from this thread that I'm some sort of mindless sheep for buying a game with DRM that you don't like, and somehow I'm contributing to the downfall of gaming, but whatever.

Play what you want, complain all you want, I'm just going to go back to throwing jars of spiders at stuff.
 

Ushiromiya Battler

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Easton Dark said:
Magefeanor said:
7. Always online is the future.
That is a future no customer should want. Please don't just accept it.
Why not? We're getting better and better network lines and soon enough we'll probably be completely independent of it.
Someones just jumped on this train a bit earlier.

NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Magefeanor said:
1. Bought the game.
2. Waited a day(experience from practically every game relying on servers).
3. Played without a problem.
4. Love the game.
5. Don't give a shit about always online when it actually works.
6. America is apparently getting gig network lines.
7. Always online is the future.
8. And stop being so bloody hostile, hate it all you want, but stop harassing people who bought it.
9. Good job Blizzard, continue actually being nice and don't turn out like Activision.
1. Okay
2. They've had this problem with every release they've ever had. Don't you think they should have fixed this crap by now?
3. You're among the lucky ones. Of my four friends with the game, two have been able to play reliably.
4. Okay.
5. Except that it didn't for a day or longer, based on where you live.
6. Source needed.
7. A future that no one should want. Because then everything we do is at the mercy of internet companies.
8. That's fair.
9. No comment.
2. I do agree with what others said though, they could have rented a few servers for launch.
3. Depends on the region then, far as I've understood Europe didn't get hit that bad.
5. Same as above EDIT: Well, at least It's not Ubisoft always online shit
6. I read it in an article here actually, no idea where that one disappeared too though.
7. Good point, though what isn't dependent on something else? You still technically is at the mercy of the internet provider. That seems to be the future, I'm not saying I don't like having offline capabilities, but going all the world is ending over the subject is pretty stupid.

That's about it I guess
 

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Magefeanor said:
Easton Dark said:
Magefeanor said:
7. Always online is the future.
That is a future no customer should want. Please don't just accept it.
Why not? We're getting better and better network lines and soon enough we'll probably be completely independent of it.
Someones just jumped on this train a bit earlier.
Disregarding that every place on Earth that plays games isn't America with those fabled lines of continuous internet, here's the thing: Connections can be shut off.

Company connections can be shut off. And the goal of a company is to make money. Which means when a game isn't profitable anymore, those servers that enable you to play your game will be shut down. No more game. Not online or offline. If Blizzard shut down D3 servers, you'd have payed 60 bucks for those gigs used up on your hard drive, and nothing else.

Always online for MMOs makes sense, but for everything else, please... don't.
 

Baldr

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Blizzard gave it to me for free for being a WoW player, I would have complained had it been offline game.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
What isn't listed is that many of these pre-orders came as a result of Blizzard offering free copies of the game to people who re-upped their subscription to WoW for a year. I'm guessing that's a hefty amount of purchases right there.
AP holders were not counted in the pre-order numbers because technically they were not pre-orders. but maybe the sales numbers. 1.4 million AP holders.
 

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Can't believe the game took that long to make though. If anything it felt extremely rushed.
Found out today that they didn't even test Inferno before releasing it. They couldn't beat it... and all the fucking stealth nerfs they made to every class that found a way to survive in that mode.


Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the game, but I've been playing for around 120 hours and I don't see myself playing it for that much longer. When I begun playing Diablo II back in 2002 it became part of my life for a few years.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
kaizen2468 said:
So either everyone who bitched about the DRM is a whiny hypocrite and bought it anyway, or the vast percentage of gamers who like this type of game don't care that Blizzard is spoon feeding them shit.

Only way we'll see no more DRM is if they saw sales numbers of maybe 1 million or something along with hundreds of thousands of people saying:

"No! We won't take this garbage anymore. You don't say when and how we can play the games we bought!"

I didn't buy it for this reason, and I wish others felt the same. I mean I work at a work site 30 weeks a year with no internet access so that means I'm not allowed to play something I could buy? How is that fair? Steam does it just fine without always online DRM.
I foresee the next blizzard game not even letting you install it, they will just host it remotely to make sure they have total control over it.

I am offended that this game sold this well even with the crappy always on drm bullshit.
 

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Shame all that money went to Blizzards pockets. Never been a Blizzard fan so I dont understand what the big draw with them and their games are. Regardless, the super sweet DRM should have been enough to make people think twice about this purchase.

Honestly, all that money should have gone to industry heroes like CD Project Red.
I am afraid that even CDP will sell out when they become successful enough, they either do or go bust, that's how the world works, it hates good things.