DICE: Battlefield and Modern Warfare Aren't Competing in the Same Sport

GrizzlerBorno

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TestECull said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


"Not competing in the same sport" You've got that right. Neither of you are competing in any sport. You're making entertainment. Come back when you've got a V8 on a race track or a jersey on a field if you want to claim you're in a sport.
Since when has Sport and Entertainment been mutually exclusive?

And CoD, Battlefield and all the other Competitive multiplayer games ARE sports. They are e-sports for the next-lazy-gen.
 

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The online has always been my problem with CoD. The online community is full of absolute shits and there's almost no variation in gameplay. In any given BF game, I can snipe, rush, pilot a chopper, wait in ambush, call in a mortar strike, ect. It depends on what you want. CoD is a great reaction and target recognition shooter, BF is much more team based and you can actually focus on small time tactics, especially with the new suppression mechanic they are putting in which makes lmgs more than an assault rifle with a massive clip and a really long reload time.

It's evidenced by the point systems. In CoD, with the exception of assists, most all the exp you get comes directly from your actions against the enemy, kills, capturing objectives. In BF I can just detect enemies for my allies, heal my allies, repair their vehicles, resupply their ammo, and I can get a ton of exp doing actions that don't directly hurt my enemy, but help my allies. It's the perfect war game for pacifists.
 

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TestECull said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
Since when has Sport and Entertainment been mutually exclusive?
When it applies to video games. You can't gain any entertainment out of videogames played competitively. It's boring to watch and it's boring to play.

And CoD, Battlefield and all the other Competitive multiplayer games ARE sports. They are e-sports for the next-lazy-gen.
Keep it up, I'm just laughing harder and harder.

The day I see a bunch of guys playing video games airing on ESPN, Speed, Fox, ABC, etc etc is the day I concede that they're sports. Until then they aren't sports, regardless of what those who partake want to claim.
First of all, I don't actually "partake". As in, I don't play competitive multiplayer...
I don't like doing the exact same thing, over and over again, in the same small area, with a bunch of other people, gaining pleasure from perfecting my skills. Sound familiar?

That being said, I don't blatantly state opinions like "You can't gain any entertainment out of videogames played competitively. It's boring to watch and it's boring to play." as facts. Why? Cause that's fucking retarded, that's why.

Also, I know for a fact that there are several channels that show Live Gameplay from online/RL tournaments. "SEVERAL" implying that there is clearly a demand for such a thing, and hence competition. Just because YOU'RE tv channels don't show it, does not mean it's "Not a real thing". Kindly take your racing helmet'd head out of your ass. It'll chafe.
 

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TestECull said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
Since when has Sport and Entertainment been mutually exclusive?
When it applies to video games. You can't gain any entertainment out of videogames played competitively. It's boring to watch and it's boring to play.

And CoD, Battlefield and all the other Competitive multiplayer games ARE sports. They are e-sports for the next-lazy-gen.
Keep it up, I'm just laughing harder and harder.


The day I see a bunch of guys playing video games airing on ESPN, Speed, Fox, ABC, etc etc is the day I concede that they're sports. Until then they aren't sports, regardless of what those who partake want to claim.
Well, if you watch in South Korea...

viranimus said:
I dont know, this might be a tad glib, however I am left to ponder.

You point a gun at an enemy and shoot them before they shoot you or die trying. That sounds pretty much like the same sport to me.

I mean having or lacking specific features doesnt make either one of them any less of virtual bloodsport.
And what the Americans call "football" and what everyone else calls "football" are both sports where sometimes you kick a ball.
 

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i really like to see the showdown
as a totally objective observer who never played any of those games and probably never will it's very much fun
and i guess more than anyone else the guys at DICE are enjoying this
i pretty much bet that the word COD was mentioned a lot more often at DICE than BF at the COD developers
 

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Funny you get that vibe, 'cause nowhere did I ever say it was fact. But I guess expecting people to be able to tell opinions from facts without blatantly spelling it out on a billboard outside their house is naive of me, so next time I'll make sure to specify it's an opinion in bold block capitals. Should help ease the confusion.
Have you read your first comment? You never exactly said "I don't consider them sports". You said "They are not sports". That's what we call "saying it like a fact". Keep your billboard, thanks.

1200 channels and no mention of any video games for the next two weeks, which is as far ahead as my Tivo can reliably go, on any of them. Try again.
Again, just because you're "magic Tv box" doesn't have it, does not make it a fictional thing. I don't know the names, but you could look up "Starcraft Tv channels" in Google if you WANT to try and hear me out. I'm sure you'll find something. Heck I've SEEN live Starcraft game commentary on TV (I'm not American), that's why I say. Or you could....you know, troll.

Kindly take your racing helmet'd head out of your ass. It'll chafe.
This is starting to hurt I'm laughing so hard. You're getting sooo defensive of something you apparently don't even do.
I literally don't understand why I have to be personally invested in something to argue for it. Maybe it's an American thing. Is it?
 

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Oh DICE... was that "maturity" part really needed in there? Someone buy those people a fucking dictionary for some extra adjectives.

And then hit them over the head with it for good measure.

Other than that, happy on the general sentiment and it's really good to hear this from the developer cause that's actually the case, they're two completely different games. When they mentioned adding in team deatchmatch (which is something I'm still worried about), I was afraid they're gonna get stupid and focus on being another CS clone.
 

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One has dinosaurs, one doesn't. One has tank battles, one doesn't.

End of story for me.
 

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TestECull said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


"Not competing in the same sport" You've got that right. Neither of you are competing in any sport. You're making entertainment. Come back when you've got a V8 on a race track or a jersey on a field if you want to claim you're in a sport.
I hope that is a poor attempt at trolling. It obviously doesn't mean that making video games is a sport, don't take it literally.
 

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TestECull said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
Have you read your first comment? You never exactly said "I don't consider them sports". You said "They are not sports". That's what we call "saying it like a fact". Keep your billboard, thanks.
Apparently you need the billboard if you can't clearly tell it's an opinion without having to make a fuss over it. If I want to say something is fact I'll post some evidence to back it up.
Man, this is a weird one. Clearly states his opinion as absolute fact, and then continues to deny it. Fine whatever... Point stands: Multiplayer games are sports because they follow all the same guidelines and philosophies of all other sports, ever made. You not "considering" them as such, changes nothing.

If I WAS a fan of the sport, I'd try to change your opinion. As is, you're right; I don't care.