Did anywhere NOT get nuked in Fallout?

[Spencer Petersen]

Point Lookout in FO3 didn't get hit directly, and although it still suffered some fallout its still a relatively safe area radiation-wise.

Also, I think a lot of Africa still probably went under the radar. There are massive sections without any major cities that would warrant a bomb and the self-supporting tribal areas would probably stay isolated for along periods of time.

 

[Calbeck]

*** SPOILERS ***

According to in-game lore, 77 nukes fell on the Vegas area. Defenses put in place by a private (and extremely rich) citizen took out over sixty of them, sparing the Hoover Dam and urban Vegas itself. The rest impacted around the area, hitting Nellis AFB and such, and the resulting fallout killed most of the inhabitants. Not to mention more fallout which would have blown in from the West Coast on the prevailing winds...

By 2781, the radiation at Nellis, at least, has cleared. There are some areas still radioactive, but mostly it's a clean wasteland. And take it from someone who lives in the Desert Southwest? Yeah. That's what it generally looks like out there.

FYI, radiation in the Fallout universe is already known to behave differently from real life, turning people into Ghouls and somehow preserving non-living matter. So blasted clapboard houses and Salisbury Steak TV dinners don't turn to dust as they should, but remain (relatively) inhabitable and edible, respectively.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

What of Australia, though? Surely a place that secluded must have gotten off easy.

 

[lacktheknack]

I think Australia was spared the carnage in the lore, wasn't it?

 

[silver wolf009]

.........it was a worldwide nuclear exchange between China and the U.S.


its safe to say that there isnt a place not fucked by radiation.

Well thats true that the radiation would have spread everwhere on the planet, but ther must have been some country out in the middle of nowhere that didn't get directly hit.

I bet you that Madagascar didnt get hit, or mabye the Fedearted States of Microasia.

 

[Jazoni89]

Actually its says in the introduction of the first Fallout that Europe wasn't hit by the bombs and instead the countries just turned into bickering nation states hell bent on securing every piece of human technology.

Not sure about any other country though, but it's obvious china wasn't destroyed by any bombs.

 

[Exterminas]

But the fallout 3 timeline excists 200 years after the war. so radiation should have vleared by now, but in Fallout 3 every bit of wate is irradiated. pretty strange.

Thats not true. Most parts of the wasteland aren't radiated. They are just barren. In New Vegas this is because it's the mojave desert. A place that probably woudln't change it's look at all, if it was blown to Narnia. D.C on the other hand seems to have taken several direct hits, which makes the water radiated. The water makes for the lack of plant.

I am no scientist, but as far as i know water is pretty radiation proof. That's the only concern I have with the fallout logic. On the other hand: If the nukes ´killed all the plants, where are new ones suppoesd to come from? One of the major features of the G.E.E.K (The make-things-grow-after-the-holocaust-macguffin) is that it comes with seeds. That kinda fills this gap.

 

[andreas3K]

The Mojave desert may not have been nuked in the war of 2077, but it's certainly been hit with plenty of nukes in the real world because it was a nuclear test site. Las Vegas was a popular place for nuke-watching.

I don't see a reason why Australia would have been hit.

 

[Exterminas]

Oh, I would like to add something:

Mr. House mentions that he destroyed ~ 80 nuclear warheads that were supposed to hit Vegas. If an entertainment town in the desert get's that kind of love, you can imagine the worldwide scale. That way it's more likely that they even nuked the ocean, just to be sure.

 

[mjc0961]

One of the major features of the G.E.E.K (The make-things-grow-after-the-holocaust-macguffin) is that it comes with seeds.

G.E.C.K.

Garden of Eden Creation Kit

Not geek.

 

[Kimarous]

What of Australia, though? Surely a place that secluded must have gotten off easy.

I think Australia was spared the carnage in the lore, wasn't it?

Directly, at least. I also recall hearing that they fell into anarchy during their isolation from the rest of the world.

 

[tris4992]

Apparently England was the most powerful Commonwealth country left standing in the world (commonwealth meaning all of Europe) so its likely that somewhere like Newcastle or York + other northern towns would not have been directly hit, London would have been f***ed over..

I also hear that The Institute of Technology in Massachusetts fared pretty well..

I think you missunderstand the concept of the commonwealth.

The commonwealth is the alliance of England and most of its ex-COLONY'S, those now independent country's that maintain a healthy political relationship with England are what we call the comonwealth.

Is all of Europe a ex-colony of England ? Yea I didn't think so either

Back on topic, Alot of place's didn't get hit by the nuke's, however the fallout completely ruined the ecosystem reducing everything to a single barren wasteland so you can't really tell the diffence between what caught a direct hit and what just rotted away and died.

 

[Mechsoap]

well it was all out world war that should have destroyed the earth, they even nuked las vegas.

though i wonder if they nuked island as iceland...

 

[Kris015]

"Far Beyond" didn't.. Wherever that is..

 

[Calbeck]

Oh, I would like to add something:

Mr. House mentions that he destroyed ~ 80 nuclear warheads that were supposed to hit Vegas. If an entertainment town in the desert get's that kind of love, you can imagine the worldwide scale. That way it's more likely that they even nuked the ocean, just to be sure.

They almost certainly did: nuclear submarines would have been tracked (where possible) and shot at as well. It's actually relatively easy to nuke a sub because you just have to smack its general vicinity --- the extra pressure created by the blast will likely subject the sub to "crush depth" pressures.

Also, radiation in the Fallout universe just WORKS differently. It actually seems to have a preservative effect on matter, so that it decays far more slowly (thus explaining why you can still find edible, if slightly radioactive, TV dinners).

 

[Mechsoap]

Europe? Would be weird if Europe got hit.

it did get hit, britain got hit and pretty much every place worth mentioning, the rest got radiated to death

 

[Calbeck]

I think you missunderstand the concept of the commonwealth.

He means THIS European Commonwealth. It's the Fallout universe's version of the EU.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/European_Commonwealth

 

[Exterminas]

Also, radiation in the Fallout universe just WORKS differently. It actually seems to have a preservative effect on matter, so that it decays far more slowly (thus explaining why you can still find edible, if slightly radioactive, TV dinners).

I always assumed that in the future, our food would be so pumped up with conserving stuff that it would last a thousand years. I mean, we already have come as far as the Twinkie, right?

 

[Flamezdudes]

I would've thought Africa would'nt be directly obliterated, just severe radiation poisoning, unless NATO siezes the oportunity to take out Mr Mugabe. I would love to see a Fallout game set in London, yeah seeing the DC Ruins and the Mojave Wastelands is cool, but I really want to experiance a post apocalyptic game in England, also wandering through the deserted corridors of Buckingham Palace or The House Of Commons would be pretty cool.

Imagine the Underground Metro. Filled with Ghoul Chavs/Raiders. Holy shit!

 

[Altorin]

But the fallout 3 timeline excists 200 years after the war. so radiation should have vleared by now, but in Fallout 3 every bit of wate is irradiated. pretty strange.

Thats not true. Most parts of the wasteland aren't radiated. They are just barren. In New Vegas this is because it's the mojave desert. A place that probably woudln't change it's look at all, if it was blown to Narnia. D.C on the other hand seems to have taken several direct hits, which makes the water radiated. The water makes for the lack of plant.

I am no scientist, but as far as i know water is pretty radiation proof. That's the only concern I have with the fallout logic. On the other hand: If the nukes ´killed all the plants, where are new ones suppoesd to come from? One of the major features of the G.E.E.K (The make-things-grow-after-the-holocaust-macguffin) is that it comes with seeds. That kinda fills this gap.

how is water radiation proof? Sure, if you have uranium sitting next to a basin of water the water probably won't become irradiated, because water is pretty inert, chemically - the radiation isn't going to break apart water, and even if it does, it creates just hydrogen and oxygen. But Fallout can CERTAINLY cause irradiated water supplies. Fallout is radioactive dirt and dust that blankets an area after an atomic detonation. It can spread hundreds and thousands of miles via the wind. It gets into the water and that water becomes irradiated. It lands in the reservoirs and the tap water becomes irradiated. It doesn't take much to cause problems in humans, as humans are large, complex creatures that are very very weak to radiation.