Did anywhere NOT get nuked in Fallout?

[Exterminas]

Also, radiation in the Fallout universe just WORKS differently. It actually seems to have a preservative effect on matter, so that it decays far more slowly (thus explaining why you can still find edible, if slightly radioactive, TV dinners).

I always assumed that in the future, our food would be so pumped up with conserving stuff that it would last a thousand years. I mean, we already have come as far as the Twinkie, right?

 

[Flamezdudes]

I would've thought Africa would'nt be directly obliterated, just severe radiation poisoning, unless NATO siezes the oportunity to take out Mr Mugabe. I would love to see a Fallout game set in London, yeah seeing the DC Ruins and the Mojave Wastelands is cool, but I really want to experiance a post apocalyptic game in England, also wandering through the deserted corridors of Buckingham Palace or The House Of Commons would be pretty cool.

Imagine the Underground Metro. Filled with Ghoul Chavs/Raiders. Holy shit!

 

[Altorin]

But the fallout 3 timeline excists 200 years after the war. so radiation should have vleared by now, but in Fallout 3 every bit of wate is irradiated. pretty strange.

Thats not true. Most parts of the wasteland aren't radiated. They are just barren. In New Vegas this is because it's the mojave desert. A place that probably woudln't change it's look at all, if it was blown to Narnia. D.C on the other hand seems to have taken several direct hits, which makes the water radiated. The water makes for the lack of plant.

I am no scientist, but as far as i know water is pretty radiation proof. That's the only concern I have with the fallout logic. On the other hand: If the nukes ´killed all the plants, where are new ones suppoesd to come from? One of the major features of the G.E.E.K (The make-things-grow-after-the-holocaust-macguffin) is that it comes with seeds. That kinda fills this gap.

how is water radiation proof? Sure, if you have uranium sitting next to a basin of water the water probably won't become irradiated, because water is pretty inert, chemically - the radiation isn't going to break apart water, and even if it does, it creates just hydrogen and oxygen. But Fallout can CERTAINLY cause irradiated water supplies. Fallout is radioactive dirt and dust that blankets an area after an atomic detonation. It can spread hundreds and thousands of miles via the wind. It gets into the water and that water becomes irradiated. It lands in the reservoirs and the tap water becomes irradiated. It doesn't take much to cause problems in humans, as humans are large, complex creatures that are very very weak to radiation.

 

[ultimateownage]

Britain. It then adapted a totalitarian regime, and started making concentration camps. Also, some crazy dude pretended to be Guy Fawkes.

 

[Ninonybox_v1legacy]

the Pit and china

 

[TimeLord]

Europe? Would be weird if Europe got hit.

I want a Fallout game to be set in London!

 

[Calbeck]

Also, radiation in the Fallout universe just WORKS differently. It actually seems to have a preservative effect on matter, so that it decays far more slowly (thus explaining why you can still find edible, if slightly radioactive, TV dinners).

I always assumed that in the future, our food would be so pumped up with conserving stuff that it would last a thousand years. I mean, we already have come as far as the Twinkie, right?

Not even Twinkies last that long, atchooly. They're really only edible for about a month, and that's because they're not made with dairy products which themselves spoil in just days without refrigeration.

 

[The Cheezy One]

By which you mean "some places in America got nuked, thus 95% of the world did"
A war between China and America that results in America being nuked does NOT result in the end of humanity. One of the beautiful things about FO is that you have no idea what is on the outside.

 

[Calbeck]

By which you mean "some places in America got nuked, thus 95% of the world did"
A war between China and America that results in America being nuked does NOT result in the end of humanity. One of the beautiful things about FO is that you have no idea what is on the outside.

Ah, actually, it's pretty solidly pointed out that everyone with nukes nailed everyone else. It wasn't a surprise attack by China on the US. It was Mutual Annihalation.

 

[Altorin]

It would be funny if the britain of George Orwell's 1984 was precisely cannonical to Fallout.

Like Fallout is actually a spinoff of 1984, but set in america.

Because in the end of 1984 it's said that basically the rest of the world sort of destroyed itself (although that's very likely just Big Brother propoganda).

I mean, the Enclave was basically trying to pull a Big Brother trick in Fallout 3, it would be interesting to see if Great Britain had actually pulled it off

By which you mean "some places in America got nuked, thus 95% of the world did"
A war between China and America that results in America being nuked does NOT result in the end of humanity. One of the beautiful things about FO is that you have no idea what is on the outside.

Ah, actually, it's pretty solidly pointed out that everyone with nukes nailed everyone else. It wasn't a surprise attack by China on the US. It was Mutual Annihalation.

Well, the first nuke did fall on the white house and it was postmarked "From China With Love", but everyone would have seen that happen before it landed, and would have retaliated with their own nukes. By the time DC was actually hit, the world was probably pretty much doomed, but China definitely pushed the button first.

 

[Calbeck]

how is water radiation proof? Sure, if you have uranium sitting next to a basin of water the water probably won't become irradiated, because water is pretty inert, chemically - the radiation isn't going to break apart water, and even if it does, it creates just hydrogen and oxygen. But Fallout can CERTAINLY cause irradiated water supplies.

Believe it or not, irradiated water used to be marketed and sold as a HEALTH TONIC. Right up into the '40s, a variety of radiation-related quack cures and items were widely available.

Scary site is scary: http://www.orau.org/PTP/collection/quackcures/quackcures.htm

 

[razing32]

There don't seem to be more than about 23000 nukes in the world today.
Source : wiki and some other sites

But i might know why Vegas got the love : "States with the largest number of nuclear weapons (in 1999): New Mexico (2,450), Georgia (2,000), Washington (1,685), NEVADA (1,350), and North Dakota (1,140)"
Source : www(dot)brookings(dot)edu/projects/archive/nucweapons/50(dot)aspx

Otherwise it doesn't make sense , 80 nukes on just one US state seems a waste unless the Chinese prime minister lost a poker tournament or something ...


Also , despite the NPCs constantly bitching about how hot it is , and a nuclear winter would be great , it's just as possible to have a nuclear summer. )

 

[Blizzarded Soul]

II would love to see a Fallout game set in London, yeah seeing the DC Ruins and the Mojave Wastelands is cool, but I really want to experiance a post apocalyptic game in England, also wandering through the deserted corridors of Buckingham Palace or The House Of Commons would be pretty cool.

A large part of Fallout's flavour is based on 1950s Americana. So setting it outside of the States wouldn't really work.

Canada. Seriously why would the Chinese or the Americans nuke Canada.

Because the United States annexed Canada at the start of the war.

I reckon it could work, for example you could set the game in the whole 60's era 'Give Peace A Chance' phase. America was stuck in the 1950's way of living, why couldnt England do something similar but give it a slight spin to keep ideas fresh.

 

[Altorin]

how is water radiation proof? Sure, if you have uranium sitting next to a basin of water the water probably won't become irradiated, because water is pretty inert, chemically - the radiation isn't going to break apart water, and even if it does, it creates just hydrogen and oxygen. But Fallout can CERTAINLY cause irradiated water supplies.

Believe it or not, irradiated water used to be marketed and sold as a HEALTH TONIC. Right up into the '40s, a variety of radiation-related quack cures and items were widely available.

Scary site is scary: http://www.orau.org/PTP/collection/quackcures/quackcures.htm

that honestly does not surprise me in the slightest.

They gave heroin to kids for coughs in the 30s.

 

[Canid117]

Canada. Seriously why would the Chinese or the Americans nuke Canada.

[small] But its still probably fucked up from the radiation. [/small]

The United States had annexed Canada and had a significant military presence there thats why the Chinese would nuke Canada. I am pretty sure the Mojave is a wasteland because of the radiation that said it still fared surprisingly well considering what happened to say... Pittsburgh.

 

[FollowUp]

Actually, The Pitt wasn't directly hit by nukes, but the radiation been rotting it to death.

Actually there was no radiation, it was just disease. Really bad disease.

 

[Calbeck]

There don't seem to be more than about 23000 nukes in the world today.

That's today. At the height of the Cold War, there were over 55,000. Then there were Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT) during the '70s and '80s which greatly reduced the US/USSR stockpile, followed by the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1990.

None of this happened in the Fallout Universe. For that matter, because the big boogeyman in Fallout is China, we never hear about what the Soviets were doing.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

The North Pole probably

 

[DeadlyYellow]

It's the theoretical world of Mutually Assured Destruction, only with an underthought to human production and advancement.