dieing 15 year old boy want's weird last request

lizards

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poor brother im glad they were able to make it come true im lucky im good lucking and good with women it just kind of makes me feel bad when a kid is going to die without ever knowing what its like or when you see a loser that wants that girl across the room but cant even talk to her

it just kind of reminds you that you are a very lucky person and that many people arent so lucky and that you may complain about getting a parking ticket or whatever but their is so many things that other people go through without ever having getting to do the things that many people including me take this for granted
 

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lizards said:
The only thing he was cheated out of was long life. If he left anything behind it would have been forgotten or unnoticed. No one thought any less of him for what he did, all of his friends and family where fine with it. Hell, the doctors and nurses were even cheering for him to fulfill his wish.
So I'm wondering why the Hell some kid who has mere months to live should give a fuck what some moralfag in another country would care about him afer he'd died?
Idk about you, but when I die, I want to die happy. You can go ahead and leave behind some speech about charity and love and peace, but it won't happen.
At least his wish was realistic.
He did what he wanted and I'm glad for it.
I think you are missing our point here.

Most of us "moralfags" (very mature by the way) aren't saying we hate him or that he shouldn't have been allowed to do it. Just saying how we feel about the whole thing, not very different from you people who are cheering for him.

The only difference is that you attack us over thinking the way we do.

Allot of us think this was one dumb last request, just respect that and move on.
 

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Ninja_X said:
lizards said:
The only thing he was cheated out of was long life. If he left anything behind it would have been forgotten or unnoticed. No one thought any less of him for what he did, all of his friends and family where fine with it. Hell, the doctors and nurses were even cheering for him to fulfill his wish.
So I'm wondering why the Hell some kid who has mere months to live should give a fuck what some moralfag in another country would care about him afer he'd died?
Idk about you, but when I die, I want to die happy. You can go ahead and leave behind some speech about charity and love and peace, but it won't happen.
At least his wish was realistic.
He did what he wanted and I'm glad for it.
I think you are missing our point here.

Most of us "moralfags" (very mature by the way) aren't saying we hate him or that he shouldn't have been allowed to do it. Just saying how we feel about the whole thing, not very different from you people who are cheering for him.

The only difference is that you attack us over thinking the way we do.

Allot of us think this was one dumb last request, just respect that and move on.
I don't see any atacks in my message good sir. I just posted my opinion that judging a dead boy who got his way is futile and idiotic. Also, Moralfag is a pretty common word on the internet, and you are indeed one of them.
 

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Stalk3rchief said:
Ninja_X said:
lizards said:
The only thing he was cheated out of was long life. If he left anything behind it would have been forgotten or unnoticed. No one thought any less of him for what he did, all of his friends and family where fine with it. Hell, the doctors and nurses were even cheering for him to fulfill his wish.
So I'm wondering why the Hell some kid who has mere months to live should give a fuck what some moralfag in another country would care about him afer he'd died?
Idk about you, but when I die, I want to die happy. You can go ahead and leave behind some speech about charity and love and peace, but it won't happen.
At least his wish was realistic.
He did what he wanted and I'm glad for it.
I think you are missing our point here.

Most of us "moralfags" (very mature by the way) aren't saying we hate him or that he shouldn't have been allowed to do it. Just saying how we feel about the whole thing, not very different from you people who are cheering for him.

The only difference is that you attack us over thinking the way we do.

Allot of us think this was one dumb last request, just respect that and move on.
I don't see any atacks in my message good sir. I just posted my opinion that judging a dead boy who got his way is futile and idiotic. Also, Moralfag is a pretty common word on the internet, and you are indeed one of them.
Indeed there are no attacks in your post. Very good sir, I salute you.

I was referring to the insults and attacks other people are throwing around.

Also, I would rather be a moralfag than condone prostitution, thats just me.
 

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Stalk3rchief said:
The only thing he was cheated out of was long life. If he left anything behind it would have been forgotten or unnoticed. No one thought any less of him for what he did, all of his friends and family where fine with it. Hell, the doctors and nurses were even cheering for him to fulfill his wish.
So I'm wondering why the Hell some kid who has mere months to live should give a fuck what some moralfag in another country would care about him afer he'd died?
Idk about you, but when I die, I want to die happy. You can go ahead and leave behind some speech about charity and love and peace, but it won't happen.
At least his wish was realistic.
He did what he wanted and I'm glad for it.
Well I guess you and I have very different viewpoints on life...

To me, physical pleasure, doesn't bring more than fleeting happiness. Its there one moment its gone the next, its fun while it lasts, but after the fact you usually feel worse than before you began. Unless there's someone I care about on the other end, its all empty. And as far as I know, I'm not alone in this statement. Maybe the kid was different, I don't know. But Im doubtful he was a becon of happiness after it was all over and he was waiting to die.

I'm also am a firm believe that you don't have to have recognition for an act of kindness. Every selfless act that helps others is working toward something better. His sacrifice may save another's life, and if you can die knowing that you kept others from suffering your fate, than Id imagine thats slightly more important.


But ultimately this comes down to if you believe that your desires out-way others lives. If you believe that physical stimulation is just as worthy a cause as helping others, than it is unlikely that we will agree on this subject.
 

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Why's everone making a big deal outta this?

Some dead guy wanted to feel a simple biological urge sated before dying, there's no moral debate here: Human = Have sex.
 

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hippo24 said:
Nurb said:
The first list isn't exactly possible for someone who has months to live is it? You don't think he wanted to do that with his life? Do you think he wanted to be cheated the way he was and decide whether or not to die a virgin as a sexually mature human being?
Well I'd hardly consider loosing ones virginity to a whore, as an act of "Sexual maturity".

My point was, that for all the "atta boys" and seals of approval he was getting. The boy's final request pales in comparison to many things in life.

I was illustrating that loosing your virginity to a jaded prostitute that you've never seen before that day and has "done" it with countless guys, pales in comparison to the higher pleasures in life. Many people fail to realize that this kid missed the mark.

Its reasonable to say that he could have done something meaningful, and left this world with more than just his own self-interest. From asking for a way to thank his parents, who obviously had to work hard just to keep him alive. To donating his money to a cause that fights whats killing him. He could have even asked for something that might save another's life, like offering up any functioning organs (he obviously was healthy enough for sex so something must be salvageable).

Its worse than the many kids who are younger than him who wish for WOW accounts and Micheal Jordan. At least those have some form of meaning because your able to do what you love with those that love you. It has more to it than just primal gratification.
Thrusting your hips against something until your brain says stop, is no different than taking a drug. Its not like the sex hes having has any meaning to it, that whore is not his lover, he has no real attachment. Its just sexual release.

He was given the choice to have his wishes honored, he could worked toward true happiness in his or another persons life.
He asked for meaningless sex.

All I'm trying to say is that, why I don't abhor this scenario, nor do I think it was wrong for them to honor his wish, I do however think that the boy was making a mistake in asking for something so shallow.

So instead of leaving behind a meaning or a gift, he left behind his self-worth and a news story about it.
i respectfully disagree if this was a perfect world then yes everyone would do that no young boys would die early deaths to illness and everybody would be happy

as it stands its not this young boy before he hardly lived at all died and i dont care if people could bring just 1 night to make him happy then that is good enough he suffered plenty its only fitting he get 1 wish fullfilled
 

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When first entering this topic I thought that if I was going to die young for my dieing wish I would wish to lose my virginity, then when I read the first post I was 0_o

Anyways considering it's this guys last wish, and it really isn't that unreasonable, I think it's fine that he got his wish granted :)
 

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popdafoo said:
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Yes because murdering 400 million people and getting a 15 year old boy laid are the exact same thing, THANK YOU for showing us the light, out morals were completely wrong and you have set them straight, THANK YOU SIR! You are truly the greatest of us all [/sarcasm]
Obviously you didn't read my post...

It's immoral and illegal. I don't care what it is or if it hurts someone or not, it's WRONG. That's the whole point.
Immoral to you perhaps, not him. Morality isn't finite. And I doubt he cares he broke the law, he's dead.
 

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There is so much ethical and moral implication in this thread, wow, I'm impressed.
I'm surprised that so many people commented on something completely meaningless and some actually began to have a passionate opinion about this. I congratulate you if you did, that takes work and empathy.

"We're all dying in the end"
- Falling Down, Atreyu

That's six billion people, soon more. And all this focus on just one. It's not sad, or extraordinary, it's just... odd. Humanity is very confusing.

Many of you think that he should've done something else, something "nobler". What? What could he have done? What would have mattered? Nothing. Someone mentioned that it was only a fleeting pleasure. Well, what is a human life, maybe 100 years out of the universe's infinite? Fleeting pleasure. With perspective, his request was not weird at all. With perspective, he doesn't matter at all. What he does is his choice, and I am slightly taken back that all of you care about this without even knowing him. You've never even heard about him until the original post. The people posting are just writing down their opinions and relating them to this story. Nobody actually cares that the boy died, nobody actually cares that millions of people died during the time you were writing your post.

Odd.
 

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Life imitates Fight Club. I see no problem with it. He was not legal, but its an arbitrarily chosen age. The legal age for sex is higher, and lower in other places. There is also the funny thing, that he couldn't exactly wait. He couldn't bide his time and pursue whores later, or give the dating game a go, or wait for someone good to come along. Great thing to bring to our attention, it in a sense proves that laws are great and useful, but sometimes, what a person really wants should trump our little safety insurances we have around us. I hope he had "fuck the poooolice!" on his tombstone.
 

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I'm not entirely opposed to such a thing, but it is a tough decision. I think that as a last request, it should stand and it is best to grant that wish. I guess my main moral opposition is that sex should be for love; feel free to laugh at me for that statement but in my experiences I have found it to be much more satisfying that way. I also don't approve of prostitution. I suppose in this boys case, he didn't have much of a choice though, if he did not have a girlfriend or any willing female friends. It's kind of a tough subject, there are moral complications yet at the same time, I feel like everyone should be granted a last wish if it is possible.
 

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CroutonsOfDeath said:
I'm not entirely opposed to such a thing, but it is a tough decision. I think that as a last request, it should stand and it is best to grant that wish. I guess my main moral opposition is that sex should be for love; feel free to laugh at me for that statement but in my experiences I have found it to be much more satisfying that way. I also don't approve of prostitution. I suppose in this boys case, he didn't have much of a choice though, if he did not have a girlfriend or any willing female friends. It's kind of a tough subject, there are moral complications yet at the same time, I feel like everyone should be granted a last wish if it is possible.
I agree with you here, sex for love is the only kind of sex worth having.

The kid can have what he wants as a last request, I still say sex with a prostitute is a stupid thing to ask for.
 

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lizards said:
hippo24 said:
Nurb said:
The first list isn't exactly possible for someone who has months to live is it? You don't think he wanted to do that with his life? Do you think he wanted to be cheated the way he was and decide whether or not to die a virgin as a sexually mature human being?
Well I'd hardly consider loosing ones virginity to a whore, as an act of "Sexual maturity".

My point was, that for all the "atta boys" and seals of approval he was getting. The boy's final request pales in comparison to many things in life.

I was illustrating that loosing your virginity to a jaded prostitute that you've never seen before that day and has "done" it with countless guys, pales in comparison to the higher pleasures in life. Many people fail to realize that this kid missed the mark.

Its reasonable to say that he could have done something meaningful, and left this world with more than just his own self-interest. From asking for a way to thank his parents, who obviously had to work hard just to keep him alive. To donating his money to a cause that fights whats killing him. He could have even asked for something that might save another's life, like offering up any functioning organs (he obviously was healthy enough for sex so something must be salvageable).

Its worse than the many kids who are younger than him who wish for WOW accounts and Micheal Jordan. At least those have some form of meaning because your able to do what you love with those that love you. It has more to it than just primal gratification.
Thrusting your hips against something until your brain says stop, is no different than taking a drug. Its not like the sex hes having has any meaning to it, that whore is not his lover, he has no real attachment. Its just sexual release.

He was given the choice to have his wishes honored, he could worked toward true happiness in his or another persons life.
He asked for meaningless sex.

All I'm trying to say is that, why I don't abhor this scenario, nor do I think it was wrong for them to honor his wish, I do however think that the boy was making a mistake in asking for something so shallow.

So instead of leaving behind a meaning or a gift, he left behind his self-worth and a news story about it.
i respectfully disagree if this was a perfect world then yes everyone would do that no young boys would die early deaths to illness and everybody would be happy

as it stands its not this young boy before he hardly lived at all died and i don't care if people could bring just 1 night to make him happy then that is good enough he suffered plenty its only fitting he get 1 wish fulfilled
Well I'm thinking back to High-School-freshmen-Me, and though it wasn't all that long ago, I still remember arguing with my parents over becoming an Organ Donor on my learners. And I remember sitting there thinking that Id rather make a difference in the world and help others, than sit on a table and suck my families resources and prolong the inevitable. My parents weren't to wild about it because the process can be abused, but I decided to say yes in the end.

I guess that memory is what sorta takes me out and makes it hard to associate with the kid.
From my perspective, it just seems like a guy with an adult body was still at a kids mental level.
I guess different upbringings and the fact that he was confined to a bed for a good portion of his life, give us different reactions to the same subject.

But I guess you right to a degree.
 

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Glefistus said:
DamienHell said:
popdafoo said:
DamienHell said:
Yes because murdering 400 million people and getting a 15 year old boy laid are the exact same thing, THANK YOU for showing us the light, out morals were completely wrong and you have set them straight, THANK YOU SIR! You are truly the greatest of us all [/sarcasm]
Obviously you didn't read my post...

It's immoral and illegal. I don't care what it is or if it hurts someone or not, it's WRONG. That's the whole point.
Immoral to you perhaps, not him. Morality isn't finite. And I doubt he cares he broke the law, he's dead.
Yeah, I laugh when morality is used as an argument. Morals change from culture to culture and age to age.
Its even worse, it changes from person to person, year by year. And thats not taking hypocrisy into account.
 

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hippo24 said:
Stalk3rchief said:
To me, physical pleasure, doesn't bring more than fleeting happiness. Its there one moment its gone the next...
Only with this kid, the next moment is the part where he stiffens and DIES, to put it bluntly.

I don't understand why so many people here are getting mad about his decision or calling it stupid. No, he didn't decide to help other people. Unfortunately, I can't ask you "What would you do in this situation?" and get a 100% legitimate answer, because as somebody else here said, your perspective's different when it's you staring down death.

I humbly submit that each person's well-being and pleasure is their first and foremost care. If this hormone-filled, teenage boy decides to (God forbid!) experience sex, instead of, oh, giving away money to charities or meeting a celebrity, why is it any of your business whether it happens? The law says it can't be so... but the law doesn't account for the dying, does it? And for the most part I've not seen the law used as part of an argument, only whether or not his wish was a dumb idea because "there's more to life than sex". That is a correct statement... if you've got the standard 75 years. If you don't, and instead you're a dying teenager? Go out with a bang! R.I.P.