HeyZeus_Ezekiel_Jesus said:There's a fine line between strategy and just being a dick.
HeyZeus_Ezekiel_Jesus said:There's a fine line between strategy and just being a dick.
Yeah, like i said, there are so many other variables in the whole "Camping/Defending" thing that makes defining them really hard to do.Wargamer said:In my experience (on MGO), the worst places to Defend are the objective, and where the objective has to be taken.
Maximum body-count tends to be wracked up somewhere in the middle; for example, lying in an alleyway covering the most likely escape route, or a bottleneck in the middle of the field.
Generally speaking, in an attacker-defender mission, either extreme will be met with heavy resistance; you know the enemy will guard the objective, and you know they will guard the base. As such, you will be prepared to face attack in these regions. In between, there's a lot of confusion, second-guessing and dumb luck involved.
The best example of this on MGO is Midtown Madness; there is a large building almost exactly in the middle of the field, and on Team Sneaking it's a deathtrap; the attackers will hide in there to lure the defenders into an ambush, whilst the defenders know if they don't clear the place out it will punish them heavily later on. As such, both sides ambush and counter-ambush in that building, resulting in the heaviest levels of "camping" on the map. Given its strategic value as the "High Ground" on the level, I would consider this Defending rather than Camping; you should never give up the high ground!
Hmm, I like doing something similar with the Scout in TF2, i.e. just generally trying to get behind to near the enemy spawn point and peppering anyone I see with the pistol, if you're lucky you can draw off a good chunk of players who have just respawned and will come after you rather than going to the front lines, and the Scout being quick enough you can hold them like this for at least a minute before they either kill you or get smart and ignore you. But, ignoring you is just an invitation to get a bat to the noggin'...Wargamer said:Don't forget the grand old tradition of Speed-bumping.
A Speed-bump is a sacrificial player, who is positioned well clear of the standard defence area. Their goal is simple; to mislead, distract and generally annoy the hell out of the attacker, with the aim of either inflicting casualties on them (and thus making it easier for the main defenders to finish the job), or simply holding them up in an attempt to let the clock run and win by default (timed games only).
My friends and I adopted the term "speed-bumping" due to playing attacker-defender games in Laserquest; usually, all but one player on the Defending team would cover the objective, with one player dug in ("camping") to waste our time.
If your a zombie you have to be sneaky and use tactics, also there is only about 1-2% barricades that can't be taken apart, and thats cause its a AMAZING cade or they are abusing a glitch.the monopoly guy said:In zombie panic source the humans always baracade themselves in a room making it damn near inpossible for the zombies to get them.
As a zombie you somewhat have to camp, and because you have no range weapons it's acceptable.
Only camping on ZPS maps is fine, tired of the people that do it on ZPO.Codgo said:Camping in Zombie panic and the CS Zombie mods is fine and often very hiliarious. It just in other games it should be a sin.
Then they got off to her, its a circleHey Joe said:I used to know a girl who talked dirty over Live. Like....real dirty, and then shoot bewildered teenage boys in the face.
She got off on that shit.
Killcam is retarded imo.ShyWinter said:Camping is okay, most games feature a killcam anyway so you can figure out where the camper is. Grenade spamming is pretty annoying though.
How is it 'retarded'? What is it about how it changes the game that you don't like? And dont give me some BS about it being 'unrealistic' because CoD 4 isn't realistic in the least.derpa said:Killcam is retarded imo.ShyWinter said:Camping is okay, most games feature a killcam anyway so you can figure out where the camper is. Grenade spamming is pretty annoying though.
Who said I was just talking about CoD4 which I think is subpar to begin with?ReepNeep said:How is it 'retarded'? What is it about how it changes the game that you don't like? And dont give me some BS about it being 'unrealistic' because CoD 4 isn't realistic in the least.derpa said:Killcam is retarded imo.ShyWinter said:Camping is okay, most games feature a killcam anyway so you can figure out where the camper is. Grenade spamming is pretty annoying though.
I always thought that was the point of a killcam, and it's not like it's a huge deal to begin with.derpa said:Who said I was just talking about CoD4 which I think is subpar to begin with?ReepNeep said:How is it 'retarded'? What is it about how it changes the game that you don't like? And dont give me some BS about it being 'unrealistic' because CoD 4 isn't realistic in the least.derpa said:Killcam is retarded imo.ShyWinter said:Camping is okay, most games feature a killcam anyway so you can figure out where the camper is. Grenade spamming is pretty annoying though.
Really it screws with sniping, defense, your general area and so on.