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Piscian

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I am now on my third try of watching the Ghost in the Shell 2017 Live adaptation. I'm 30 minutes in and I just don't think I'm going to be able to do it.

We'll never know if it was out of willful ignorance or the studio not trusting audiences but the exact theme of what makes GITS unique has been striped out and replaced with the well-worn "oh no what humanity be like with everyone becoming cybernetically enhanced??!!" plot that's been thematically explored in film since spoken dialog. The major constantly cringe whines about not knowing if shes human or she robocop, theres a subplot about her being a weapon, her boss doesn't trust her BLAH FUCKING BLAH. Fuck I just realized this is basically Robocop.

What makes OG GITS so unique beyond the design is that it asks the next, far more interesting, question of what humanity would be like once the ship has long since sailed on cybernetics enhancements. In a world where actually being even mostly human is exceedingly rare. It thematically explores the ID of a being who has never been human in the first place. The Major explores existence without any constrained frame of reference for being human. The Major doesn't, technically, even have a sex. It also helps that GITS takes place after WWIII and that "her" compatriots are hardened killers whos humanity is only explored in the quite moments like Batou owning a real dog simply for the sake of being near something more alive than he is.

On a personal irritation level the movie starts with everyone constantly using the term "ghost" instead of soul. In actual GITS thats a term the major uses privately due the fact that its possible existence is the only thing she has left of her humanity. People even quip that its not a real thing to the major at times. Hearing it used in the film grinds my gears because some idiot writer just copy and pasted it from probably scanned dialog and thought it sounded cool, not bothering to research its context.

This time I lost my shit because not only is Batou a clown but hes just now getting used to voice over cybernetic enhancement UUUUGGHH fuck this movie. It spends as much time mansplaining "hacking" to the audience as it does on the actual goddamn plot of the film.

Oh and for whatever needless reason she is flesh and bone in this to some extent so you ever get that disconcerting compelling sense of the Major welding her body like a puppet you did in the original. She bleeds and wax poetic about it. Fuck this movie.

This is one of the reasons I enjoy films like blade runner. I do not need future technology explained to me every goddamn time I watch a scifi film. Even if the audiences are idiots these tropes have been around 50+ years. Everyone gets it.

Fuck this 90s "spiritual adaptation" shit. Its old and it needs to be stop. Either respect the material or leave it alone.
 
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Made the mistake of seeing Fast & Furious 9.

As to be expected, dumb as fuck movie.
Omg i tried to watch this and ended up turning it off about 70 minutes in. It feels like theyve run out of ideas and are just going through the terrible motions now.
 
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Made the mistake of seeing Fast & Furious 9.

As to be expected, dumb as fuck movie.
Omg i tried to watch this and ended up turning it off about 70 minutes in. It feels like theyve run out of ideas and are just going through the terrible motions now.
Exactly why I stopped watching after the 7th movie. I considered it the true ending to the franchise. Everything else afterward is just a bad fan fic.
 
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The Dark (prime, maybe? Or a channel through prime anyway)
An interesting genre reversal here. I've been saying for years the white ghostly dead girl with straight black hair gets too much jip in horror, as not only is she not scary after the first time, but it can't be healthy for her self esteem and supernaturally stunted growth neither. Well fear no more, ghostly white dead girls! Here is a film for you!

Once the intro sets up a bait and switch for anyone who failed to see the description or trailer, it quickly changes to the point of view of the undead cannibal ghost/monster girl as she is dumped with a blind survivor boy, seriously abused by the priest or whatever he was who brought him to the woods. Hijinks ensues, leading an endearing heartwarming romantic adventure where the roses are freshly torn throats and the awkward loveable chemistry is child abuse. The budget limitations are somewhat visible through some not-quite-convincing gore at times, but other than that it's an appreciated, well executed enough of an idea.

The Tomorrow War (bleh, everyone knows)
Anyone ever get the impression they're watching a dumb over-produced sequel to a much tighter, horror-based auteur-driven film? No reason for asking, just curious.

Anyway, been trying to avoid this one and was doing pretty good until I heard the alien designs were sort of cool. Which is my weakness: if there be aliens and people be telling me they're looking cool, well I gotta check it out to see what creativity is on display.

They're Dead Space creatures, the videogame Dead Space...not creatures that are dead and from space. Specifically the wall mounted ones who fire shit at you from afar. But a little bit more angry with some uninspiring tricks. But still, they are the best part of this baffling movie. The phrase "turn your brain off and just enjoy" has it's limits, you know! It's weirdly conservative on multiple levels too, ending on a "stay together for the kids" arc as the sugary cherry on top of the military-fetishised cake baked by Tom Clancy as he started to comedown off another ill-advised ether binge. Plus the colour scheme is seared into my memory as a cacophony of delights found from a hospital's biowaste bin.
It's like if someone read a Paul Verhoeven Starship Troopers-esque script without realising it was meant to be satire, and ploughed right on ahead to making a completely straight-faced film adaptation instead.

Though saying all that, I don't really feel that strongly about any of it afterwards. Apart from feeling a little fooled by other people's low expectations towards alien designs. It's competent on the most basic visceral level at least, it passes through and fades away, leaving only wonder as to where the first film went. You know, the one where it's just the one alien? And everyone has to figure out what it is and how to escape or kill it within a claustrophobic atmospheric environment? You kn...oh whatever!
 
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Made the mistake of seeing Fast & Furious 9.

As to be expected, dumb as fuck movie.
Omg i tried to watch this and ended up turning it off about 70 minutes in. It feels like theyve run out of ideas and are just going through the terrible motions now.
Exactly why I stopped watching after the 7th movie. A considered the true ending to the franchise. Everything else afterward is just a bad fan fic.
Had no idea people actually still had any real expectations for those movies; I stopped watching after the second or third installment. They've long since jumped the shark, and are just going for new heights of ridiculousness at this point. I hear they go into space in this one?? Christ on a crutch. Let me guess: the next film's going to be The Fast and the Führer-ious 10; "family" travels back in time to kill Hitler?
 
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Had no idea people actually still had any real expectations for those movies; I stopped watching after the second or third installment. They've long since jumped the shark, and are just going for new heights of ridiculousness at this point. I hear they go into space in this one?? Christ on a crutch. Let me guess: the next film's going to be The Fast and the Führer-ious 10; "family" travels back in time to kill Hitler?
I was and am of a similar mindset. I stopped watching after the 4th movie at the time. I did not see five or six in theaters. The only reason I saw seven was just a close a chapter in my life. Taking care of unfinished business. When 7 concluded, I already knew they were going to make more, but I just told myself this is the true ending to the series. Paul Walker's passing wasn't helping either.

Their use of the word "family" has gotten beyond irritating and tiring. This is true family.

 
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I rewatched Bachlor Party with Tom Hanks for the first time in decades. I thought it'd be interesting seeing as back in my teens this movie was already gross and embarressing to sit through. And now that I have taste and somewhat higher morals I wondered how the experience would sit with me. I hadn't forgotten the typical gross-out comedy trope of 'slep with trans woman, now I must hilariously vommit' that was in this movie, but I had forgotten that our main characters also get a mule killed and then leave his corpse in an elevator, AFTER they initially brought it up to their suite so a stripper could have sex with it.

Yeah... good old fashion 80's humor.
 

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I rewatched Bachlor Party with Tom Hanks for the first time in decades. I thought it'd be interesting seeing as back in my teens this movie was already gross and embarressing to sit through. And now that I have taste and somewhat higher morals I wondered how the experience would sit with me. I hadn't forgotten the typical gross-out comedy trope of 'slep with trans woman, now I must hilariously vommit' that was in this movie, but I had forgotten that our main characters also get a mule killed and then leave his corpse in an elevator, AFTER they initially brought it up to their suite so a stripper could have sex with it.

Yeah... good old fashion 80's humor.
I had neither seen nor heard of this film until just now. Given the scenarios you've mentioned, that Tom Hanks is in it is surprising.
 

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I had neither seen nor heard of this film until just now. Given the scenarios you've mentioned, that Tom Hanks is in it is surprising.
Not really. Before Philiadelphia Tom Hanks was in a lot of low brow stuff, including this movie...


During the 80's he was pretty much young Leslie Nielsen.
 
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Godzilla: King of Monsters. 10/10, would accept the world ending this way as I hate my job.
I'm not a huge kaiju fan in general, it's not a genre I grew up with or anything. Godzilla franchise was just a thing I knew of, but never watched. But, I really enjoyed the visuals of Mothra in G:KoM, like when they woke her up, and she's got that blue nimbus, in the flowing water around her, with the semi-whale song they made for her audio cues. It was quite beautiful. I also liked how they referenced the twins, without directly referencing the twins in Mothra's backstory.

Haven't seen Zilla V Kong, and don't really plan on it, but I could theoretically enjoy that one. If I could ever be arsed to actually sit down and watch it. That's not very likely though to be honest.
 
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Wes Craven's New Nightmare

It's a quantum leap from Freddy's Dead, which I believe was directed by a cat chasing a laser pointer. It's also a great service to Freddy, who feels like an intimidating presence again instead of... I guess Deadpool. Elm Street 3 through 6 Freddy Krueger really is just undead Deadpool. Looks like him too.

Speaking of meta Freddy is now haunting Nancy Thompson's actress Heather Langenkamp. It's funny seeing her, Wes Craven, Bob Shay, John Saxon and Robert Englund acting chummy and freely discussing the Elm Street movies (and everybody thinking Heather's lost it as she tries to convince them Freddy's real and haunting her). It has a great opening and a pretty strong first act.

The second half sucks though. Nothing much happens and it gets way too repetitive. I got sick of the phone suddenly ringing, and the kid suddenly screaming, and I especially got sick of how many times they shout "Dylan!" nd "Mommy!". Rivals Hellraiser 2, which had Kristy and Tiffany shout over and over "Kristy!" and "Tiffany!" past the point I though it was hilariously bad and turned simply annoying.
 
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Wonder Woman 1984 (6/10)

This film is a bit of a mess. It's a mess that has some fun in it, but still, it's a mess.

I'm going to leave aside the question as to how this really fits into the DCEU (apparently Batman could find a picture of Diana in WWI, but not her globetrotting adventures in 1984...), and look at the film on its own terms, and how it relates to its predecessor. So in terms of the former, the plot is pretty messy, or rather, the rules of the Dreamstone are a bit messy. Like, there's the basic understanding that it's a monkey's paw (get a wish, but it costs you), but when you're applying things to a global scale, the logic really starts to break down. For instance, if billions of people are making a wish, then surely the wishes are contradicting each other in some cases, and I'm sure there's some bozos who wish for things that would be utterly catastrophic. Furthermore, that ties in with Lords himself.

I get what they're going for with him, but his plan makes little sense. Struggling businessman who wants to use a magic stone? Okay, sure...But as soon as he gets the stone, his wish is to become the stone, rather than wishing, I dunno, make my oil wells bring in profit or something. Surely he realizes that becoming the stone is more risky than anything else, and what's more, he doesn't stop beyond that. I get the idea (selfishness is bad), but the film has no real transition from "I want to make it" to "I want world domination." Cheetah actually encapsulates this idea better, in that there's a clearer train of logic from not wanting to give up her strength, but even then, the Cheetah fight itself is pretty pitiful, and ends with Diana and Cheetah in water, with an electric current running through it that zaps Cheetah, but doesn't affect Diana because...reasons. And as for Diana wishing Steve back, okay, sure, but where in that does it require he inhabits another guy's body? At best, it's an unnecessary plot distraction, at worst, it raises numerous ethical issues. Why yes, I AM going to take you, Steve Trevor, into harm's way, wearing some poor smuck's body. If you get shot or killed, well...sucks to be that guy I guess.

I'll give credit where it's due, the Steve/Diana thing is handled fairly well overall. It's a nice touch, seeing Steve geek out over the 1980s, though I don't know why Diana calls him a pilot first, since IIRC, he doesn't do any actual flying in the first film outside his suicide run. Though speaking of flying, Diana gets an invisible jet (which becomes invisible through violation of Chekov's Gun), but learns to fly in the same film. Um, okay...the former's a bit redundant then, isn't it? And apparently she stopped flying in the later DCEU because...reasons.

Overall, the film's a mess, and if there's one scene that encapsulates it, it's where Diana attacks the convoy in Egypt (or is it Saudi Arabia...fuck, how quickly are these cars driving?) Contrast it to the No Man's Land in the first film. Both are arguably the high points of action in their respective films, but No Man's Land is key to Diana's character development, and is in a conflict with clearly defined goals (two sides at war) and themes (can't solve war by taking out one person, war corrupts everything, etc.) The convoy scene, on the other hand, lacks any character development or theme, and has Diana fighting against security guards who are maybe mind controlled, maybe not (it's unclear as to how the stone operates), serving an antagonist with vaguely defined goals (especially at this point). Both are visually spectacular, but only one of them has substance behind it.

So, yeah. Didn't think much of this. It's lower tier DCEU - probably the third worst DCEU film that I've seen (out of all the ones I've seen I guess). Massive step down from its predecessor, doesn't really fit its host universe, and really needed a tighter script.
 

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I'll give credit where it's due, the Steve/Diana thing is handled fairly well overall. It's a nice touch, seeing Steve geek out over the 1980s, though I don't know why Diana calls him a pilot first, since IIRC, he doesn't do any actual flying in the first film outside his suicide run.
He does. In the flashback he flies a Fokker 1 (I think) to escape from the arms factory he's spying on. Its the plane that crashes in the water near Themyscira right at the beginning.
 
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He does. In the flashback he flies a Fokker 1 (I think) to escape from the arms factory he's spying on. Its the plane that crashes in the water near Themyscira right at the beginning.
So his record consists of crashing one plane and blowing up another.

Stay classy Steve. :p