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Flight Risk

If I'd watched this two days ago it'd be the worst movie of the year, but I saw War of the Worlds (2025) last night.

A US marshal is flying a mob witness from bumfuck Alaska to Anchorage. The pilot (Marky Mark) is a hired assassin tasked with getting them killed, but he's not very good at it, because he spends the bulk of the flight either cuffed or knocked out. He spends every other waking moment going on long, rapy ramblings to the other two that had me questioning why don't they just up and gag this dude, it's not like they need him for anything. But this is one of those movies that depends on characters never thinking too long or hard about anything ("How did she forget about the knife/the gun/the satellite phone/the glasses/the fuel tank?"). So I won't.
 
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The Old Guard 2

Charlize Theron leads a merry band of gay immortal warriors who're working with the CIA to disrupt the gun trade. Her ex girlfriend is angry about being ghosted for 500 years, but outside of a catfight in an Italian backstreet that realistically would've had a hundred phones pointing and recording before the first bra strap popped loose she doesn't get to do much. There's a Korean immortal named Tuah but he don't spit on no thing. Ok, Uma Thurman is the bad guy, and turns out she was behind the gun thing, and fishing Charlize's psycho ex girlfriend from the Atlantic, but I don't remember her actually antagonizing the good guys. She just G-Mans a bunch until the end, but there's no end per se, it's a "Let's hunt some orc" end but there's no Frodo/Sam angle neither.
 
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I think one way I've noticed to tell when he really started going into vacation mode is how his characters are treated in-universe. Specifically, yes, he pretty much plays manchildren in his comedies. But in his early comedies like Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison, being a manchild is treated as a flaw that he needs to overcome, while in later films it's an "endearing" trait.
OTOH it kinda seems like HG2 is recompense for that earlier manchild stuff. In that, the movie wouldn’t have worked the same way if he didn’t lose his wife (Bowen btw was surprised to get called back at all as she felt she was “too old”), even in the typical Sandler-y screwball sort of way. If anything I’d say the first flick was more consistent, while the sequel had higher highs and lower lows. It was an excuse to get the band back together while paying homage to the ones they lost, but mostly wound up playing covers.
 
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A Working Man

I'm generally just happy to watch Jason Statham do his thing, but I'm especially all for this action movie era of blue collar badasses going after scumbags.

The resolution is a bit half-assed though. The main bad guy calls the board of bad guys on the phone to tell them Statham killed everyone and saved the girl. The board's like, that's fine by us, and if you're not ok with that we'll kill you. Bad guy goes, fine, so kill me. Hangs up. Screams. Wtf?
 
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The resolution is a bit half-assed though. The main bad guy calls the board of bad guys on the phone to tell them Statham killed everyone and saved the girl. The board's like, that's fine by us, and if you're not ok with that we'll kill you. Bad guy goes, fine, so kill me. Hangs up. Screams. Wtf?
Once they realized all Levon wanted was to get Jenny back, they wisely decided to cut their losses and feel he's not worth perusing. Especially after his one man destruction. They prefer business over an endless vendetta or one where they would lose even more or get exposed by authorities they can't pay off. Levon doesn't know of the other bosses nor upper table and they prefer it that way. Symon being denied whatever revenenge, screams in rage. Some people guess this might be a possible sequel hook, but I doubt it personally. I don't mind this, because you don't see this too often in most action films.
 

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Locked

Remade from the Argentine original of 2019, about a thief who breaks into an SUV that's been rigged to lock him in. Nobody can see inside or hear anything. The owner, a We Live in a Society type, calls him on the phone and proceeds to starve and torture him remotely. This goes on for days.

The American remake sensationalizes things by having the owner also drive the car remotely, using it to go on a murder rampage while the thief's locked inside. The thief is also given a cute daughter that's waiting for her deadbeat dad to get his shit together. The remake goes to some lengths to portray the thief as nobly as possible while his torturer is unambiguously a villain. The original movie wasn't all that great but it had a more nuanced characterisation, a sense of humor and a better ending.
 
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The Hunger Games (2012)

What do you know, I’ve never seen these movies. Or read the books they are based on, for the record. So, for no particular reason, I decided I’d spend the dog days of summer catching up on them

So, Hunger Games is set in the authoritarian futuristic nation of Panem. Each year the government of Panem chooses a pair of youths from each of their 12 provinces to compete in a heavily publicized gladiatorial battle for… reasons. I mean, I get how it's meant to be entertainment for the ruling class in the capital but the movie claims it's also meant to intimidate the people in the provinces, but then the movie goes on to practically show first hand that if anything, it has the opposite effect. Anyway, the movie follows protagonist Katniss and love interest Peeta as they're chosen and participate in the games.

Hunger Games is weird in that it lacks just about everything you’d think would lead to a popular movie franchise which is why I assume that it's the source material that was doing the heavy lifting here. What makes Hunger Games interesting, if not very good, is that to a large part, it feels like a B-Movie.The first half, certainly, does a believable impression of a science-fiction blockbuster with fancy sets and fancy costumes and fancy setpieces. And then it just kinda turns into people running through the woods while being filmed with a handheld camera. For context, perhaps, I should point out that this was directed by Gary Ross. Ross’ credits include, overall, not very much and basically no action movies at all.nAnd this was most definitely not filmed with an action movie sensibility in mind to the point that its utter ambivalence towards framing and choreography starts to feel almost like some kind of statement. I wouldn't exactly call it grit, it's too shy around actual explicit violence for that, but an odd naturalism that feels very much at odds with what high budget studio action movies would look like in the coming decade.

Aside from that, what adds to the vaguely B-Movie feel is how weirdly little characterization anyone gets. The first half introduces some characters who have not a lot going for them but you can at least nail down what their character archetype is. But as soon as the actual game starts practically every participant who isn't Katniss and her male counterpart Peeta becomes defined not by any clear characterization but by their role of either supporting or antagonizing them with practically no effort spent on characterizing them aside from that at all. Which, having seen as many book adaptations that I have, makes me assume all their actual characterization must have been in the novel.

And, y’know, in addition to that is the fact that Katniss doesn't have very much going for herself, either. It's interesting because she has, actually, become a sort of archetype. The young woman with a bow and more often than not a ponytail has become the most recognizable current template of a female action hero. Lara Croft in the newer Tomb Raider games, both Ellie Williams and Abbie Anderson in The Last of Us, Alloy from Horizon Zero Dawn, Kassandra from Assassin's Creed Odyssey, she represents a generalized image of a tough but emotionally vulnerable survivor but there is so little actual specificity to her. Apart from surviving the movie by 40% skill and 60% plot armour (her most impressive feat of archery being something she does before the actual competition even starts) and her relationship to Peeta (the ambiguity to which extent it's based on actual attraction and to which just a sense of obligation being just about the only interesting bit of characterization we get to see) she's practically a void, with all the interiority she had, if any, left in the book.

Maybe this is a wonky complaint in general, seeing how flimsy the overall premise is, but it's just generally a bizarre decision to have a premise like that and focus so entirely on a single character rather than an ensemble cast. The general appeal of death games is to see a cast of colourful personalities compete against each other. Squid Game, Danganronpa, Blood Drive (why yea, I do know I’m the only person who remembers, much less cares about this show, why do you ask?), they all hinge on their strong supporting casts while in Hunger Games most other competitors live and die unceremoniously with barely so much as a crumb of characterization given to them.

This has the skeleton of an appealing, if by no means especially impressive, set up and I have to assume that all the actual meat must have been left in the book. Because, certainly, I get the appeal of the concept but with the absolute lack of compelling characterization, meaningful worldbuilding or compellingly staged action it feels like an advertisement of the book more than it feels like a worthwhile translation to the screen. The only really interesting part about it is how practically its entire second half feels like it might have very well been filmed in a forest a couple of miles down the road from the directors house because god knows it never at a moment resembles an actual high budget action movie once they leave the capital. I genuinely get how this ever managed to pass for a theatrical blockbuster unless it was by the popularity of the books alone. There is something mildly interesting to its visual naturalism and usage of what looks like mostly unaltered wilderness sets but... let me be honest, simply assessing it as a high budget action movie with no knowledge of its source material or continuations, this is a long way from actually good.
 
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Cape Fear (1962)

An ex con seeks to ruin the life of the man who "put him" in jail (ie. testified in a rape case), harrassing him and his family while keeping at arm's length and within the confines of the law.

Everybody knows the Scorsese remake or at least the Sideshow Bob version. OG is great but there's little to say about it other than count the ways it's simpler than the Scorsese movie. For one, the hero is blameless and the family seems perfectly happy until Max Cady shows up. Scorsese made Sam Bowden into Cady's lawyer rather than some witness at a trial, and had him deliberately sabotage his case to put him behind bars (14 years rather than OG's 8). Cady is still a psycho, but his wrath is somewhat justified; while Sam is a lousy lawyer (and husband, and father) paying for the error of his ways. There's also a bigger emphasis on the family breaking up, and a big deal is made of Cady seducing Sam's daughter, who was a nothing character in OG but is played by the aptly disturbed Juliette Lewis in the remake.

The original movie simply isn't as concerned with guilt and morality. It's mostly an indictment of the judiciary system and despairing at the loopholes and technicalities that can be readily exploited by anybody who knows better. The randomness of Cady's obsession paints a different kind of danger and obsession, and Mitchum is of course fantastic at playing oily scumbags who can walk the talk. The ending sequence in which he stalks poor Gregory Peck as the crawls to a gun in the mud is terrific stuff. I also liked Polly Bergen a lot in the movie, who was given more to do than simply being the wife. A scene where Kojak grills a chick to give up Cady goes on for a little too long, but we like Kojak.
 

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Naked Gun (2025) - See this fucking movie! It's the funniest comedy in a long time to actually appear in theaters! Ignore all of the Netflix shit, and ignore Happy Gilmore 2.

 
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Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid

If I had a nickel for every time Kris Kristofferson starred in an incredibly brown looking revisionist Western that went over budget, its production was marred by feuds between its director and the studio, was re-edited in post to half the original running time and while critically panned at the time has since gained positive reassessment, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

 
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I actually think there’s a strong, very worthy sequel somewhere inside RoboCop 2 but it just didn’t happen.
 

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I actually think there’s a strong, very worthy sequel somewhere inside RoboCop 2 but it just didn’t happen.
I agree. The Politically Correct Robocop stuff shows that there was room for satire...it's just that the rest of the film is so bleak that instead of working, it felt badly out of place. Things like that show that if they had just decided on a tone and stuck with it, there was something there.