Yeah, also remember the ad, and the kurfuffle when someone claimed it.
it's a 4-part series, but worth the watch if only to laugh at his insistence over getting the jet. I mean, he rejected an almost million settlement just to get the jet. Fucking hilarious. If you're going to interrupt our regularly scheduled programing, make good on it!I actually remember that ad and later hearing about the kid who called them out about the harrier. I might check the movie out.
Well, the jet is worth more then a million easily but yeah I can see wanting to see Pepsi pay up.it's a 4-part series, but worth the watch if only to laugh at his insistence over getting the jet. I mean, he rejected an almost million settlement just to get the jet. Fucking hilarious. If you're going to interrupt our regularly scheduled programing, make good on it!
Is that what that Simpsons episode is based on where Bart wins an elephant on a radio show?Yeah, also remember the ad, and the kurfuffle when someone claimed it.
That's cuz it's cyberpunk, and by that I don't mean it just has the trappings of cyberpunk like the aesthetic and surface level theming. Proper cyberpunk don't do happy endings. It's nihilism all day, every day.Cyberpunk: Edgerunners.
Holy shit.
This is a Netflix anime set in the world of Cyberpunk 2077, and is about a delinquent youth named David as he is forced by circumistances into a life of crime in Night City. It's kind of hard to discuss without spoilers, so I'll just say it's excellent, probably a 9/10. The themes of corporate dystopia, losing one's humanity through cybernetic implants, and making something of yourself against the odds are all classic cyberpunk, and executed very well. The animation by Studio Trigger is amazing, the characters are all engaging, the writing is sharp, the soundtrack is excellent, and the action kicks major ass. It's also incredibly violent, sometimes bordering on the level of those infamous 90s OVAs like Genocyber or Angel Cop, but it never feels lurid or gratuitous in the way those did. I just finished it less than 10 minutes ago, so I don't know if there's any major criticisms I'd level at it. I guess you could say it's not very original in its worldbuilding or story, but I'm not big into cyberpunk anyway. Massively worth your time, especially if you've been hankering for a proper old school 2D anime for adults.
If not for the bright color palette, energetic animation and pumping soundtrack, this would be one of the most depressing things I've ever seen. I'd be willing to say it's almost Requiem for a Dream level. I mean, the series starts with the protagonist losing his sweet mother not to the car accident they get in, but to the shitty healthcare system they can't afford. After the halfway point it's basically just a descent into hell as David's humanity and sanity start slipping, and everything around him and his posse starts crumbling. The ending isn't even bittersweet, it's just bitter: Everyone except Lucy and Falco die horribly, nothing changes in the grand scheme of things, the only villain to get their comeuppance is a small time gangster, there's not even a final showdown between Adam Smasher and David, he just gets his ass absolutely handed to him. There's no relief, no redemption, no light at the end of the tunnel. But what makes it so gut-wrenching is that I was still rooting for David at the end, despite him bringing it mostly on himself by being an arrogant, snot-nosed dipshit who thinks he's special. I was waiting for him to just go total psycho at the end, but then he spends his last moments in full clarity. And worst of all you could see it all coming from episodes away. It's a very cruel, very harsh, proper downer ending.
David's augmentation being an analogue for drug addiction isn't an original angle (I assume) and sometimes it's quite on the nose, but god damn is it executed well. It perfectly conveys the sense of this kid getting everything too fast and having too much money for his own good. He can't see 2 days into the future, he's riding that high too hard. I especially enjoyed how at the end he basically becomes one of those gun-riddled abominations he's been hallucinating during his episodes, signifying his irreversible downfall. When Maine died in episode 6 I was expecting the final episodes to be about David and Lucy going on the run, but instead it shows how these things run in cycles: what made David and Maine so strong is also what destroyed them, but the high is too strong to resist or try to learn from the mistakes of others. David keeps telling himself he's special, how he can go further than Maine, but he never stops to think how augmentation is a one-way street. Instead he just keeps going harder and harder despite everyone around him plainly seeing he's a total mess.
So yeah, awesome show, but god damn is it hard to watch a lot of the time.
You can win battles in Cyberpunk, but the war was lost long, long ago.That's cuz it's cyberpunk, and by that I don't mean it just has the trappings of cyberpunk like the aesthetic and surface level theming. Proper cyberpunk don't do happy endings. It's nihilism all day, every day.
Really, this is why I couldn’t get into Dark. Maybe if it was in the original language with subs but wife wanted to watch it dubbed. I only watched here and there while I was on my phone or something and well, that’s about as effective as it sounds.I watched ep1 last night and this looks worth continuing with. The dubbing is a bit distracting since it looks like they were speaking English in the first place (apparently the original is multilingual, so I guess it was just dubbed across the board for English-speaking audiences) so there's a weird time-delay effect caused by the dubbing rather than the usual mismatch between mouth shape and subtitles. Hard to get used to, but I watch everything with subtitles anyway.
I was also reminded of that, but apparently not:Is that what that Simpsons episode is based on where Bart wins an elephant on a radio show?
My closest reference to cyberpunk in comparison to Edgerunners was Blade Runner 2049. You can't call that a happy ending either, but at least at the end of that movie I got a sense that someone in the movie got something out of what happened. That something was achieved. Edgerunners just left me feeling hollow, like a part of my soul had been ripped out. I saw a Youtube comment sum it up very well: David achieved every dream he took up for other people. He reached the top of Arasaka tower like his mother wished, he went further and became a legend like Maine wished, and he (indirectly) took Lucy to the moon like she'd told him she wanted. But if you asked any of those people if they were happy that David achieved those things, not one of them would say yes.That's cuz it's cyberpunk, and by that I don't mean it just has the trappings of cyberpunk like the aesthetic and surface level theming. Proper cyberpunk don't do happy endings. It's nihilism all day, every day.
Honestly I'm watching it and should like it but something just isn't clicking yet for me, I've been struggling to finish episode 3 for a while. I don't know if my brain is just recognising the hand of the writers of West World and remembering how kind of crap season 2 went for that show and going "Don't get invested this time" of if there actually is something not clicking but I'm in the same box as you here. Everything feels like it should be making a great compelling show but it feels like a number of perfectly created pieces that on their own are perfect but put together they don't seem to all fit together right. They feels too perfect almost if that makes sense.The Peripheral (Prime)
A sci-fi about future gaming rednecks with noticeable cyberpunk dealios going on. Relatively easy watching, though am not feeling as invested as I first hoped to be. Need to see more and dwell upon what it's up to.
It amazes me how we hold such ying yang opinions on stuff XDI take back what I said about Edgerunners.
God, what an awesomely powerful show.It's not that it would be one of the most depressing things I've ever seen if not for the animation and music: it just plain is. There are moments in the last episode that are now seared into my brain. I don't think I've had my soul broken in this way since probably the first time I saw End of Evangelion. But whereas that pretentious piffle eventually became unintentionally hilarious to me and entertaining in how nonsensical it is, Edgerunners retains a very raw, very human core that's just heartbreaking. And a big part of why it's so effective is its incredibly fast, borderline ADHD pacing and the fact that it almost never lingers on stuff too much. It doesn't wallow in its darkness or raise it up to be a big focus, which makes you not expect just how much of a gut-punch that ending is. A lot of the series is just a fairly straightforward sci-fi action show, but it uses the concepts it introduces perfectly that you see where it's all leading to, sowing the seeds for the heartbreak from the very first episode, and fully reaping them in the last.
I keep comparing it to the original Ghost in the Shell film, since that movie is basically entirely cerebral, detached and emotionally dead. It's almost all musings on concepts and ideas that make you stroke your chin and go "hmm, yes, interesting". Edgerunners is the opposite: it's very visceral, very human and very emotionally charged. Though the characters in this series are by certain definitions even less human than the ones in GhostShell, they act more human than Mokoto Kusanagi ever could.
Edit: Another point of comparison could be Devilman Crybaby, because that show's ending also harrowed me to my core. But that show becomes very different over the course of its run, and focuses on the characters less and less in favor of less grounded, mean-spirited nihilism in order to underline its point. Edgerunners retains an unmistakably consistent tone, style and focus for its duration. If you showed someone clips from the first and last episodes of it, they wouldn't go "wait, this is the same show?"