Or "Ryan" doesn't actually exist. He might an identity created by the feds for the purposes of infiltrating and destabilizing Anon from the inside.UrKnightErrant said:HAH! I totally saw this coming...
Posting member IP addresses is just LOW. This Ryan guy is either one serious douche bag or a fed snitch.UrKnightErrant said:That's because you're thinking of anon as a single organization. It's not. It's an amalgam of hackers and script kiddies. Just because an anon picks up a cause it doesn't mean that he has universal, or even majority, support. In fact it's entirely possible... actually pretty likely... that different anon groups will eventually find themselves divided on an important issue and hacking in opposition to one another. And that's OK. It's all about the lulz anyway, right? Anon vs. Anon will would be a mad fun show.
Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that a hierarchy of leadership was created and that the Anonymous apologists weren't being honest about who and what Anonymous really was. And it may have (supposedly) been Ryan's motive for starting this civil war, but I don't think he quite gets that this hierarchy was inevitable, as was its destruction under the weight of its members' stupidity.Desert Tiger said:You don't see that's the entire point this has happened?RDubayoo said:Oh, and another thing, I thought Anonymous didn't have centralized leadership and all that jazz? And yet this article describes a "hierarchy" being established within them, and Anonymous leaders "going rogue" and abusing roles and... you know what? I've decided that from now on I'm not going to believe a single word written by any Anonymous apologist ever again.
yeah playing now Hacker Wars!Samualwallow said:I feel like moviemakers should really start looking at real life when writing their scripts. One piece of news like this sparks so much more imagination then the average movie or serie.
Go make a movie out of this!
Unlikely. The Feds wouldn't publically destroy the credibility of their mole and publically leak the IP addresses like "ryan" did. Any smart government agency (and they are smart) would have merely covertly investigated the IP's and performed arrests, and Anons would assume those guys simply screwed up and got caught. If the Fed wanted to take down AnonOps, they would have probably arrested "Owen" and other AnonOps administrators, moderators, domain name owners first, seized the domain names not under "ryan's" control, and then shut down the entire damn thing once they had the rights to all the domain names. "Ryan's" actions are too public, cause too little damage, and are far too weak to have been a government plot.Atomic Skull said:Or "Ryan" doesn't actually exist. He might an identity created by the feds for the purposes of infiltrating and destabilizing Anon from the inside.UrKnightErrant said:HAH! I totally saw this coming...
Posting member IP addresses is just LOW. This Ryan guy is either one serious douche bag or a fed snitch.UrKnightErrant said:That's because you're thinking of anon as a single organization. It's not. It's an amalgam of hackers and script kiddies. Just because an anon picks up a cause it doesn't mean that he has universal, or even majority, support. In fact it's entirely possible... actually pretty likely... that different anon groups will eventually find themselves divided on an important issue and hacking in opposition to one another. And that's OK. It's all about the lulz anyway, right? Anon vs. Anon will would be a mad fun show.
I can't imagine anyone would risk the kind of shitstorm that could come down on them for betraying anonymous like that, the whole fed operation angle is starting to look more and more likely.
Bloody marvellous!SelectivelyEvil13 said:So amorphous Anonymous is unanimous in decrying this boisterous member who is incongruous with their sanctimonious ways. But if they are so ubiquitous, certainly the group's politics won't be 100% harmonious. Sooner or later, someone would become cantankerous, rebellious, even, and revolt in a manner most ceremonious. Whatever. If they are so enormous, then some of their members are bound to be deciduous.