Well to be fair they DID have a giant universe with decades of material to work with with a story line spanning across generations like it's freaking JoJo's Bizarre Adventure...and then Disney promptly threw all of it out.thewatergamer said:
Disney Wants to Release a New Star Wars Every Year Indefinitely
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Eh, what did people think was going to happen? They spent all that money acquiring the license so they could produce a new trilogy and call it a day? Still, an annual release schedule like this could very quickly turn it into an obligation devoid of any creativity.
Yet, I'm surprised by the number of people who seem to think Star Wars is about to be milked for all its worth. Newsflash, Star Wars has been hooked up the milking machines pretty much from the moment it became popular; they've just attached a couple new pumps. Even if they reliably produce absolute shit it will take them years before it's anything more than pissing in the ocean.
Yet, I'm surprised by the number of people who seem to think Star Wars is about to be milked for all its worth. Newsflash, Star Wars has been hooked up the milking machines pretty much from the moment it became popular; they've just attached a couple new pumps. Even if they reliably produce absolute shit it will take them years before it's anything more than pissing in the ocean.
That's quite a generous way of looking at things. I'd put it another way, that their writers are too lazy to learn the lore and adapt their ideas to tie in with established (ex)canon. Having to read and factor in to your own story what other people have written is, like, hard, whereas wiping the slate clean so they can write whatever they want is ssooo much easier.Dead Metal said:
Sorry, I've been a follower of the EU for over 25 years and have spent hundreds and hundreds (and hundreds) of pounds on it over the years and the EU's casual dismissal by Lucas and Disney is still a sore point for me. If Disney manage to streamline the EU and do it justice then I'll happily eat my words, but I'm just a little too jaded to believe that they'll do anything other than shoe-horn EU characters into bland made-to-order films written not to tell an enthralling story but to hit a sales target.
It makes sense given the result they got with the Marvel experiment, but I can see it exploding in their faces.
Episode 7 is treated as such an event because it has been a long time since an Star Wars film, and their aesthetics being closer to the original trilogy makes it look like longer. It feels special because it has been abused as a franchise (at least, in movies). I can imagine a future where the hype for a new Star Wars proper would be diminished because of overexposure.
Episode 7 is treated as such an event because it has been a long time since an Star Wars film, and their aesthetics being closer to the original trilogy makes it look like longer. It feels special because it has been abused as a franchise (at least, in movies). I can imagine a future where the hype for a new Star Wars proper would be diminished because of overexposure.
Well, if Marvel can do it I guess Disney can too...I wonder how long it'll be before they release a genuinely bad Star Wars though. Also can't help but wonder if this would count things like children's movies. Coming July of 2018: Jedi Clubhouse.
Marvel's universe makes Star Wars look like an organised and cohesive narrative. Seriously, they're not the better starting point here. As someone once said...comics...are...WEEEEEEIRD.thewatergamer said:
They're going to be using the same model with fewer movies, too. This doesn't seem like a worse idea than the Marvel movies, but a better one. Well, assuming they don't make them suck right off the bat.
This is a fairly reasoned plan. It'd be grat to at least know what to expect from the franchise before we heard they were planning dozens of movies.Callate said:
Errr...I know everyone jumped to Ubisoft, but Assassin's Creed has been shedding users with each release. And Unless Blops 3 has changed the tide, the same is true of Activision and their annual franchise. Ubi and Activision have both reported losses frequently over the last console cycle, to boot.Metalrocks said:
Why would anyone think this is what Disney saw?
I'm saving that for if Ep 7 actually does suck.LegendaryGamer0 said:
No no no no, you did it wrong.Samtemdo8 said:
You're supposed to say "I find your lack of imagination...disturbing."
Honestly, though, the bar has been set low enough by Eps 1 and 2 that Yoda would be hard pressed to limbo under it.
I just felt a great disturbance in the Force...it was as if millions of voices cried out, "...seriously?!"
If the movies are consistently decent-to-good-to-great, like the MCU, then this could work. As it's been pointed out above, the MCU movies are being released--if you find the mean--at a rate of about 2 per year and we're 11 movies into the project in less than a decade.
I think the gaming community may have a gut negative reaction to this just because "annualizing" is anathema to many of us. But video games are not movies, so releasing that frequently may not be an automatic death knell of quality, as the MCU has more than demonstrated.
If the movies are consistently decent-to-good-to-great, like the MCU, then this could work. As it's been pointed out above, the MCU movies are being released--if you find the mean--at a rate of about 2 per year and we're 11 movies into the project in less than a decade.
I think the gaming community may have a gut negative reaction to this just because "annualizing" is anathema to many of us. But video games are not movies, so releasing that frequently may not be an automatic death knell of quality, as the MCU has more than demonstrated.
Have you seen how much utter crap Star Wars has put out over the years? It's not just the prequels that you mention, the Expanded Universe everyone was upset to lose was a horrible, snarled mess with about 2% content worth a crap and 95% stuff that was awful. The other 3% is stuff that was mostly okay.Dragonlayer said:
erttheking said:
Those kind of seem at odds with one another. The idea of milking the franchise is what led to the EU in the first place.erttheking said:
That's the thing. We didn't think they were going to make the new trilogy and call it a day. In fact, we already knew there were upcoming spinoff movies planned.FirstNameLastName said:
It's the scope that people are talking about.
Part of the excitement comes from the prospect that these might be good now that they've been freed of the burden of Lucas' "vision." I mean, the time frame helps as well, but I don't think the frequency is inherently an issue. In fact, we already know they can tell a lot of stories in the Star Wars Universe. This basically requires they be able to crank out one competent story a year. This is slightly more ambitious than they were doing previously, but only slightly.hermes200 said:
Now...i have never been a Star Wars fan, but do appreciate its' potential. It is understandable that this report may scare people at first, it seems bad on the surface. But...films are not games, they are quick, cheap (in comparison), directed moments we generally share with others. Not like the COD and Creed development cycle. It wouod be more like a big budget sci-fi T.V. series, expanded and spread to a more managable digestion. An average high-budget T.V. series is about 45mins long, A film can be 2-3 hours long. That is merely around 3-4 episodes in one go. Considering the vast possibilities the Star Wars universe has for storytelling, which are seemingky infinite in my mind, i'd say this isn't all that bad at all. I cannot, however, speak for fans...
Also, look at it this way: you have soap dramas releasing weekly episodes of boring, day to day bullshit that bored housewives and their petsand secret lovers watch, slowly draining their very souls. This is once a year sci-fi sweeping stories across the galaxy, in marginally better hands this time around. I cannot, bowever, speak for the fans...
Also, look at it this way: you have soap dramas releasing weekly episodes of boring, day to day bullshit that bored housewives and their pets
It does take a while to make a movie though, even if you're running multiple teams, and to make one well. If you're using actual locations and props, which people really want to see in new Star Wars.Xsjadoblayde said:
There's also this sequelization bit, where people don't want to be seen to be shovelfed their sequels and know that they're a cash cow. They want to pretend that they're just hyped, that this isn't all just marketting. They want their hype for "The Force Awakens" to be something magical, not the product of a cynical machine that will keep feeding them until they don't want it. They want a story, and stories end, especially the good ones. People, this is what you asked for. That's what this has been about. Brands, products and marketting. Look at the EU, how nothing changed, nothing was solved, and the story never ended. How we always had to have a war, a government changing. Look back to the trailers. Look familiar?
I'm looking forward to it, but come one, this was obvious guys. They're making a Rogue spinoff. Like Fett etc, that barely matters outside of EU stuff, nobody knows this stuff.
Well they're both milking, but at least when they're drawing on the EU we'd have a better chance of the milk being good. For a time.Something Amyss said:
That's interesting. As someone who grew up reading the books, technical manuals, and what have you, I am kind of glad. I mean, I always wanted more Star Wars movies. More XWings. More Tie Fighters. More characters.... Strangely I never wanted more Jedi though. I basically got my fill of the universes most boring (and stupid) police force in the prequels.
Conversely, this means quality may not be the the most important thing. I mean, the prequels made amazing money but were pretty much junk.
Conversely, this means quality may not be the the most important thing. I mean, the prequels made amazing money but were pretty much junk.
I'm just trying to figure out if the people who made this decision hate star wars or not. Cause if they're not savvy enough this could finally kill it.
Well, we've known about this for a while, so it isn't really news.vallorn said:
The trick is to have multiple films in production at a time. That way a film can still take three years to make, but it's produced on a rotating schedule, so we get one a year. Probably more then one, once things really get going.
