Disney Wants to Release a New Star Wars Every Year Indefinitely
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I'm sorry, but back when the Prequels came out all I ever heard from Star Wars fans was how much the movies sucked, not because they were bad, but for contradicting EU books and comics. I witnessed an hour long rant about how George Lucas betrayed everyone by including Guido, and how that ruined the comics and novels he's been reading that chronicled his live's saga.Grouchy Imp said:
Oh, and every time I check something on Wookipedia, every article I've ever looked up has a section of how a novel/ cartoon/ comic/ game/ movie contradicts parts of the backstory, or how the creative teams knowingly ignored pre-established material because it came in the way of telling their own story.
So, you claiming that the EU was this magical perfect thing is just the same as someone claiming that Batman Arkham Knight had a flawless PC port.
I'd be open to their remaking of prequel trilogy. Hollywood remakes classic films all the time and fails because it didn't live up to the standards.
Why not just leave those fantastic movies alone and start remake of what are shitty movies instead?
Why not just leave those fantastic movies alone and start remake of what are shitty movies instead?
Hey, if you owned a pony that shits gold, pisses oil and burps diamonds, wouldn't you ride it til it's dead too? Disney's plan to become Skynet is one step closer if this becomes a reality. All they need to do is buy Google and Facebook and we're done.
dirtysteve said:
To me, there's no reason to doubt that Disney excluded all the EU stuff from official canon in order to be fully in control of the franchise. There's also no reason in my mind to doubt that Disney will follow a strategy of borrowing and/or reimagining EU material for their official canon.
I'd also assume that it's cheaper and overall more efficient for a company like Disney to build their own canon instead of commiting their films to stories they don't have full control over.
Also, imagine the sheer amount of long-term jobs Marvel alone must be creating with their strategy for Marvel and Star Wars!
But I say this as someone who fears a future where every year box-office results are dominated by a handful of always the same big blockbuster franchises, probably "Star Wars", "Marvel", "Warner Bros.", "Hasbro" and "Seth Rogen". A dark and bitter future indeed.
I have said this before, myself. I would be fully on board with prequel remakes. Everyone knows that they COULD have been good.mysecondlife said:
Let's face it. A lot of the lore of the EU was utter crap. I say this as a major Star Wars fan who grew up with the original trilogy. I have read almost every single book of it and re-read the good ones numerous times (i.e. Anything written by Zahn) but there is absolutely no way that I would want to see a movie that tried to incorporate all of that. I mean, just look at this [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Legends_media]!Grouchy Imp said:
The original actors are about 30 years older than in ROTJ, so that would be somewhere around just after the Yuuzhan Vong war or getting into the Dark Nest trilogy if they kept that same time frame. Do you really want to hear Han tell someone that Chewbacca died when a moon fell on him to explain the lack of his presence to those who didn't read the books? It would feel cheap and pointless.
While I regret the loss of some of the EU (Thrawn trilogy and X-Wing series), the EU as a whole was just a jumbled mess that is better put out to pasture. If there's a few cameos of characters thrown into the new movies as a nod to the EU fans, great, but trying to fit all the crap in just for the sake of continuity really isn't worth it.
No, people weren't pissed that the prequels contradicted the EU, they were pissed because Lucas contradicted his own movies! Obi-Wan said he was trained by Yoda, not Qui-Gon. Obi-Wan having no memory of R2-D2 and a lesser extent C-3PO, despite being exposed to them for years, Leia supposedly had memories of her real mother, who now died during childbirth. I know there are other things too, but these are the things that come to mind. These are what people were really upset about.Dead Metal said:
...I, um...
I read the source article, and there doesn't seem to be any proof that this is going to be a thing. It talks about a lot of things, but in the end there's no given proof that it's been greenlit or anything. The only thing that says it's gonna happen is "Well, look at Marvel/DC/Transformers! They're doing it, so popular wins, right?" That, ladies and gentlemen, is what I believe is a Bandwagon Fallacy - everyone else is doing it, so it must be right. Either that, or slippery slope in saying that it's only a matter of time.
I mean, c'mon - the article linked provides more evidence of a new Indiana Jones film than it does of a serialized Star Wars. Let's keep our heads, shall we?
I read the source article, and there doesn't seem to be any proof that this is going to be a thing. It talks about a lot of things, but in the end there's no given proof that it's been greenlit or anything. The only thing that says it's gonna happen is "Well, look at Marvel/DC/Transformers! They're doing it, so popular wins, right?" That, ladies and gentlemen, is what I believe is a Bandwagon Fallacy - everyone else is doing it, so it must be right. Either that, or slippery slope in saying that it's only a matter of time.
I mean, c'mon - the article linked provides more evidence of a new Indiana Jones film than it does of a serialized Star Wars. Let's keep our heads, shall we?
Okay. I'll reserve my judgement on whether I'll go see each individual film, but I'm not going to complain about being spoiled for choice when it comes to Star Wars films.
I was kind of rooting for the leaked project where somebody wanted to remake Seven Samurai in Star Wars, but then it was said it wasn't happening. Maybe Disney is thinking about stuff like that, allowing directors who want to try their hand at the franchise to do what they want, rather than churn out formulaic fluff. Maybe.
I was kind of rooting for the leaked project where somebody wanted to remake Seven Samurai in Star Wars, but then it was said it wasn't happening. Maybe Disney is thinking about stuff like that, allowing directors who want to try their hand at the franchise to do what they want, rather than churn out formulaic fluff. Maybe.
Yup and now I'm almost ready to say 'Hand it back to Lucas Please'
Seriously. This is the sort of board room decision making that more or less kills franchises. Heck it's what's killed the western comic industry over the last decade. Marvel and DC have both been struggling to retain and grab new readers. Why do you think they keep hitting the cosmic reset button in their repsective universes?
Compare that to MAnga imports and Other wise which are basically outselling. One Piece, Bleach, Naruto, and others are doing waaay better than any Marvel or DC title. Why? Because the authors have at least an understanding of the basic rule of story telling. IT has to end at some point.
If all they're going to do is release movie after movie, then the meaning and impact of each movie becomes diminished. The stories can't really stand for anything.
This leads to one of two options. A.) Write a meaningful story and pad it out over 4 movies.
Or B. Just Write them as you would a weekly Episodic TV series and PAd the running time out to movie length.
Now honestly. i'd be down with a weekly STarwars Series . Seriously. I would. I mean many scifi series have don well like that. Babylon 5, Battle Start Galactic,a Buck ROgers, Start Trek, Star Trek TNG. I'd actually be stoked for something like that. But not for a string of never ending movies.
Seriously. This is the sort of board room decision making that more or less kills franchises. Heck it's what's killed the western comic industry over the last decade. Marvel and DC have both been struggling to retain and grab new readers. Why do you think they keep hitting the cosmic reset button in their repsective universes?
Compare that to MAnga imports and Other wise which are basically outselling. One Piece, Bleach, Naruto, and others are doing waaay better than any Marvel or DC title. Why? Because the authors have at least an understanding of the basic rule of story telling. IT has to end at some point.
If all they're going to do is release movie after movie, then the meaning and impact of each movie becomes diminished. The stories can't really stand for anything.
This leads to one of two options. A.) Write a meaningful story and pad it out over 4 movies.
Or B. Just Write them as you would a weekly Episodic TV series and PAd the running time out to movie length.
Now honestly. i'd be down with a weekly STarwars Series . Seriously. I would. I mean many scifi series have don well like that. Babylon 5, Battle Start Galactic,a Buck ROgers, Start Trek, Star Trek TNG. I'd actually be stoked for something like that. But not for a string of never ending movies.
Like I said, I really can't imagine Disney being physically able of raping this franchise harder than Lucas ever did.CaitSeith said:
If we're lucky, they'll wear out the franchise so hard, we'll never get a movie again and we'll be getting nothing but B.MonsterCrit said:
Thing is, we've had a few of those one way or another, and an entire movie that led up to one of them. I suggest the early/mid 2000s Clone Wars series in particular that, in the short amount of time it was given, basically surpassed the movie it was supposed to be leading into.
Then again, you might fall into the same hole Star Trek did and end up with a Voyager/Enterprise/possibly whatever they're trying to reboot it with now. Though, Star Wars has always been good with this sort of thing generally.
Not beyond Disney's reach, and it'd be nearly beating DC and Marvel at their own game.Dango said:
That was what I was annoyed about, that and the lack of Stormtroopers, Vader and that everything looked more modern and streamlined than in the original trilogy. But those were the major complaints I got from SW fans I met at the local comic store, or hanging around the toy aisle of stores. I mean I hated how it didn't fit with what I came to know from the films I grew up on VHS with, but holy crap all that paled in comparison with what these guys (and gal) were complaining about. It was almost as annoying as them questioning me about EU trivia, like "Did you know that Luke Skywalker has children? Wanna know how many?"COMaestro said:
Made me care even less about all the comics and books, never considered them anything more then stuff based on the movies to cash in on the popularity of the films, like toys just lamer.
That.... sounds like a terrible idea. CoD has consistently decreased in quality since they went to the "one per year" model.
Granted, they have a lot of old expanded universe story lines they can rip off and turn into movies, but still.
Granted, they have a lot of old expanded universe story lines they can rip off and turn into movies, but still.
Want to know the secret? They have several decades of time tested stories to pull material from, a passionate loyal fan base, and the movies vary wildly from spy thriller, to heist film, to space opera.gigastar said:
Star Wars did have decades of material supported by a loyal fan base for it, with a rich history and universe but... Look, here's a shiny multiplayer shooter.
This might be me talking out of my arse here, but to be entirely honest I really don't think Star Wars benefits that much from having a huge budget. Even adjusted for inflation The Phantom Menace had a budget four times higher than the original Star Wars movie. If you look at the earlier films they mostly take place in a half-dozen cool sets with smaller action snippets where all of the effect budget went. And that's part of the charm; Whereas Episode 1-3 tried to stun with visuals pretty much non-stop (was there any new location that wasn't totally over-designed and just filled with... stuff?) 4-6 have alien environments that nonetheless feel subdued, and saved the 'Oomph' for a few key scenes. Just look at how much mileage they get out of X-wings and the Millennium falcon just landed and/or broken. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the majority of their screen time.vallorn said: