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King Billi

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GrimHeaper said:
That would be a boring world. But, I'll just go ahead and post this.
These are things that are said in opposition to the "haters" for the most part.
So what exactly is this little comparison supposed to prove? Total Recall was a very decent film in my opinion and I couldn't care less that it was a reboot of another supposedly "classic" film I can enjoy both of them for completely different reasons, much the same way I can enjoy DmC.
 

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I will be very short:
I don't really care. I don't like the new look of Dante and the inside joke the developers put for the white long hair Dante had in the previews games is stupid.....because in reality he look more good with this type of hairs!



Did they really made this joke even we can see clearly, the old look is SUPERIOR even here?

Also, I didn't play it, but I watched all the cutscenes.The story was a......."eee". Just a blant ok.
 

kazann

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Only person that likes the new Dante checking in.

DmC now actually also looks like it has a story [whether it is good or not is another matter] the previous ones, from what i remember had a story in the background, but it was nothing anybody gave a shit about and existed just for the sake of driving the game on.

plus, im not a fan of anime cliche characters. So the old dante was meh to me.
 

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TheKasp said:
kazann said:
Only person that likes the new Dante checking in.
Only? I doubt that - I can't really dislike a look that I myself have (oh gosh, he has a decent haircut!!! what an emo!).
It's not the look that i dislike, it's his unlikeable personality. It's as if they mistook "badass" for "asshole" while coming up with him. It's not a good sign if the atagonist of the game is more relateable and likeable than the protagonist (apart from the heart eating maybe).
 

aguspal

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Hazy said:
1) The dialogue is atrocious. It is the absolute worst I have seen in generations. One boss fight is started by tossing "Fuck You" back and forth like the two share Tourettes syndrome. And let's not forget these juicy bits:
"YOU DISGUSTING FUCKCHILD
"Me, a god. Versus you! A piece of shit!"
"You are dead, just like your whore mother"

You.


With that little piece of your post, you singelhandly convinced me that I *NEED* to whatch some videos of this game NOW.

I LOVE that kind of stuff!!! :)
 

aguspal

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Bitter Hobbit said:
Great game. I can understand that not everyone likes it and why old school fans may not, although saying that I've bought every DMC game on release since the first one so I guess I am a old school fan. But seriously, it's not new, we've known about it since 2010 now, all the hate is just pathetic, move on. This game isn't evil and it's not the cause of all the worlds ills, but the way some people are acting it's as if NT and DmC came round to their house and stamped on all their toys.

Anddddd I finally looked thougt a few videos of this epic game with equally epic gameplay such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuj05upk73I


As someone who has never/barely played (I did play the first three levels or so of DMC3) the DMC series, this is just WOW. Epic battle, I had no clue who was going to win until the end.

Oh god. I need MORE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS GAME
 

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Dark wolverine said:
The story is laughable at best. That's just what the world wanted, an angsty stupid emo tween version of the beloved classic.
BurnedOutMyEyes said:
But I want the old super flamboyant Dante back! He was stupid and different and kinda weirdly endearing!
This guy's just a boring emo fuck.

OK, genuine ire at this, how exactly is new Dante emo? Because whenever I hear that bullshit attempt to knock the new design, dialogue, hairstyle all I hear is "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIIIIGGGHHHHHHTT"

Its a game about how a white haired man in a redcoat can cry, fucking get over yourselves!

OT: I actually played it, combat is good (but too easy), platforming is no longer 20 foot vertical leap you figure out the rest and there is an actual plot rather than 'Dante turns up somewhere and fights things' so, y'know... it isn't DMC 2.

Geezus, I actually liked the old Dante but whenever someone calls the new one emo I retroactively want to punch the original in every game for starting this...
 

aguspal

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TheKasp said:
aguspal said:
Bitter Hobbit said:
Great game. I can understand that not everyone likes it and why old school fans may not, although saying that I've bought every DMC game on release since the first one so I guess I am a old school fan. But seriously, it's not new, we've known about it since 2010 now, all the hate is just pathetic, move on. This game isn't evil and it's not the cause of all the worlds ills, but the way some people are acting it's as if NT and DmC came round to their house and stamped on all their toys.

Anddddd I finally looked thougt a few videos of this epic game with equally epic gameplay such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuj05upk73I
Oh golly, he found a glitch!

Though the music has to become ingame music...

A rather terrible semi game-breaking one at that. Especially since, for what I heard about the series anyways, the bosses are one of the best parts of those kind of games.

Still I rather prefer to be somewhat neutral. But even then I can see the faults this game has... but I dont care, its HILARIOUS.
 

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aguspal said:
Anddddd I finally looked thougt a few videos of this epic game with equally epic gameplay such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuj05upk73I


As someone who has never/barely played (I did play the first three levels or so of DMC3) the DMC series, this is just WOW. Epic battle, I had no clue who was going to win until the end.

Oh god. I need MORE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS GAME
That reminds me. During my time playing the game, I encounter all kinds of occasional bugs with enemies.

Some get stuck in the environment.
Some freeze altogether, this seems to happen to the fat-baby enemies the most. But it's happened at least once with every enemy I encounter.
Teleporting enemies who get caught in teleporting loops (happens a lot when I knock them off the level)
Some seem to forget they're in the middle of a fight and stand around doing nothing.
And a rare glitch I've had involves knocking enemies off the levels, who vanish into the void without dying and leaving me unable to exit the area I'm in.

I wish I was recording a video in one instance when I activated Devil Trigger (which sends every enemy up into the air) and launched one of those big saw golems upwards, and then got stuck inside an awning. His weakpoint was facing towards the wall and merged into it, making him impossible to kill.

Every time I play, something glitches at least once. Most of the time it's harmless, but it still makes me facepalm. It's embarrassing.
 

Johnny Novgorod

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Is "the game looks great" a big selling point still? Games look better and better with each year. You might bring up graphics in a review if they're inordinately bad but if they're good that's more or less to be expected, technological advances considered. There's a steady trend towards realism in both lightning and overall design in this kind of games. So, graphics/visuals I could care less for. They never made a bad game good.
 

King Billi

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Is "the game looks great" a big selling point still? Games look better and better with each year. You might bring up graphics in a review if they're inordinately bad but if they're good that's more or less to be expected, technological advances considered. There's a steady trend towards realism in both lightning and overall design in this kind of games. So, graphics/visuals I could care less for. They never made a bad game good.
I wouldn't say it should be a selling point but I do personally appreciate a certain level of care and imagination when it comes to a games graphics and overall design. If a game has a keen attention to detail and goes beyond merely using aesthetics that are functional in order to create something wholly unique and interesting then I feel some degree of acknowledgement is deserved.
 

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CaptainMarvelous said:
Dark wolverine said:
The story is laughable at best. That's just what the world wanted, an angsty stupid emo tween version of the beloved classic.
BurnedOutMyEyes said:
But I want the old super flamboyant Dante back! He was stupid and different and kinda weirdly endearing!
This guy's just a boring emo fuck.

OK, genuine ire at this, how exactly is new Dante emo? Because whenever I hear that bullshit attempt to knock the new design, dialogue, hairstyle all I hear is "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIIIIGGGHHHHHHTT"

Its a game about how a white haired man in a redcoat can cry, fucking get over yourselves!

OT: I actually played it, combat is good (but too easy), platforming is no longer 20 foot vertical leap you figure out the rest and there is an actual plot rather than 'Dante turns up somewhere and fights things' so, y'know... it isn't DMC 2.

Geezus, I actually liked the old Dante but whenever someone calls the new one emo I retroactively want to punch the original in every game for starting this...
He may not be emo but he's still a self-involved, mean-spirited, witless douchebag. Seriously, when your hero is completely insufferable you've failed as a writer
 

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Personally, when it comes to a hack and slash:

I don't care about the story
I don't care about character "arcs"
I don't mind what the character looks like, especially the colour of their hair
All that matters is the gameplay...

Ninja gaiden 3 bombed big time, be thankful it's nowhere near that bad.
DMC looks passable fun
Bayonetta 2 is going on the wiiU......
MGS rising still look promising

I'll wait and see what MGS is like, if not I'll get it off ebay.
 

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Aiddon said:
He may not be emo but he's still a self-involved, mean-spirited, witless douchebag. Seriously, when your hero is completely insufferable you've failed as a writer
He is a douchebag. Immature douchebag. Old Dante is a fun guy. Someone you could hang out with and have a beer. He may not be very mature either, but he is charismatic. Charisma is important. This Dante is a fuckin' 4chan douchebag with 0 charisma.
 

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aguspal said:
A rather terrible semi game-breaking one at that. Especially since, for what I heard about the series anyways, the bosses are one of the best parts of those kind of games.

Still I rather prefer to be somewhat neutral. But even then I can see the faults this game has... but I dont care, its HILARIOUS.
There are plenty more bugs than that.
EDIT:
And another video I just found


King Billi said:
These are legitimate criticisms from someone who so clearly loves this series and I can certainly respect your postion now that I know the specifics of your complaints, you obviously care for this whole series more than I do.

The main issue I take with alot of the other criticisms I've heard is that they have take it personally and make out that Ninja Theory hates them and is trying to destroy their beloved franchise.
Do you hear that form DMC fans or from the media saying that's what the DMC fans think? All the DMC fans I know are trying to say why they don't like it but are blown off as haters who don't like his hair even when they give reasons. If you did encounter one of the people who hate them for his hair, every fanbase has their bad apples and please do not think the rest of the fans are like that.

Part of the hate towards Ninja theory is the fact Tameem is acting like a dick to them and insulting the old Dante and is completely full of himself. This is how he response to a tiny bit or criticism https://twitter.com/superninjatam/status/270958085982523396 I want to clarify I'm not justifying the DMC fans hate towards them, I'm just saying why it exists.
 

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As a fan of Devil May Cry I can tell you all that hatred towards this abomination has nothing to do with Dante's hair color. If this was a true prequel and they wanted to make Dante still have some type of Devil Trigger before actually awakening his demonic powers, then making him have a default black hair at some point in his life is not a bad idea. However, breaking the lore and characters as much as they did is worthy of hatred. I don't want to see a sequel to this piece of shit. I want to see a sequel to DMC 4.
This game should be treated as an isolated incident.
 

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lapan said:
TheKasp said:
kazann said:
Only person that likes the new Dante checking in.
Only? I doubt that - I can't really dislike a look that I myself have (oh gosh, he has a decent haircut!!! what an emo!).
It's not the look that i dislike, it's his unlikeable personality. It's as if they mistook "badass" for "asshole" while coming up with him. It's not a good sign if the atagonist of the game is more relateable and likeable than the protagonist (apart from the heart eating maybe).
Asshole sounds like fun, really. I like his "unlikeable" personality for some reason... Maybe because im not a huge dmc fan and can see that the series is actually rather a shallow hack and slash game...
 

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TehCookie said:
King Billi said:
These are legitimate criticisms from someone who so clearly loves this series and I can certainly respect your postion now that I know the specifics of your complaints, you obviously care for this whole series more than I do.

The main issue I take with alot of the other criticisms I've heard is that they have take it personally and make out that Ninja Theory hates them and is trying to destroy their beloved franchise.
Do you hear that form DMC fans or from the media saying that's what the DMC fans think? All the DMC fans I know are trying to say why they don't like it but are blown off as haters who don't like his hair even when they give reasons. If you did encounter one of the people who hate them for his hair, every fanbase has their bad apples and please do not think the rest of the fans are like that.

Part of the hate towards Ninja theory is the fact Tameem is acting like a dick to them and insulting the old Dante and is completely full of himself. This is how he response to a tiny bit or criticism https://twitter.com/superninjatam/status/270958085982523396 I want to clarify I'm not justifying the DMC fans hate towards them, I'm just saying why it exists.
I've read alot of criticisms recently on this very thread from very intelligent, reasonable people and I can certainly respect their opinion and understand their issues with this game, but it doesn't change the fact that the loudest voices out there right now appear to be coming from the "bad apples" who have nothing constructive to offer besides pure contempt and derision.

To me DmC is a perfectly decent game and alot of fun to play and I don't feel that the original games are in any way degraded by this games existence, I mean come on... "New Dante" and "True Dante" couldn't ever be mistaken for being the same person could they? In fact the whole design and tone of DmC has been so far removed from what the original series was that the only thing they have in common now is the name... And in my opinion there's nothing in a name... even one as revered as Devil May Cry.
 

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TehCookie said:
aguspal said:
A rather terrible semi game-breaking one at that. Especially since, for what I heard about the series anyways, the bosses are one of the best parts of those kind of games.

Still I rather prefer to be somewhat neutral. But even then I can see the faults this game has... but I dont care, its HILARIOUS.
There are plenty more bugs than that.

OMFG.


Thank you :D I will watch them tomorrow thougt because bed is calling me :(
 

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King Billi said:
I've read alot of criticisms recently on this very thread from very intelligent, reasonable people and I can certainly respect their opinion and understand their issues with this game, but it doesn't change the fact that the loudest voices out there right now appear to be coming from the "bad apples" who have nothing constructive to offer besides pure contempt and derision.
Hating the game doesn't make one a bad apple as long as they have reasons. The thing is legitimate complaints are being written off by DmC fans as a "You don't like the hair!" Next time pay attention to some of the haters and see if it's blind hate or educated hate. There are a lot of stupid people in the world and I don't know where you go so it very well could be blind hate, but don't write it off all hate like that.

Since I don't go to other news sites much did any of the DMC fans there mention Operation Crazy? Where the old fans are trying to boost the sales of the HD collection to let Capcom know that is what they want instead of the reboot (Look at the top 100 games on Amazon, DMCHD is above DmC. Actually when I just checked DmC is no longer on the list but DMCHD still it.)