Do people dislike the Xbox One because of what it is or the functions it was supposed to have?

[conmag9]

Personally:

1. I don't really like any XB1 exclusives.
2. PS4 is more likely to possess the kinds of games I like.
3. I'm cheap, so I haven't even gotten a PS4, so no thanks for XB1


I think the biggest point is its beginning phase. The stuff Microsoft tried to pull in its initial release was so bad, if I hadn't been following it myself, I would have probably ignored the first person who tried to tell me, as it was clearly either a joke or an exaggeration. No company could be so profoundly stupid with their marketing, the naive thought went through my brain. But they did. And even when backpeddled on things they pinky swore couldn't be taken out, it's more than just spite that's keeping people from buying. There's a lack of trust, which I think is probably not realistic (MS would be utterly suicidal to try and slip the control back in later, after the controversy showed them people were paying attention). It's the fact that Microsoft's actions must have a serious consequence on their bottom line to prevent it from happening again. If MS took out all the features and people bought them then, it sends the message that they couldn't get away with it then, but maybe later. They loose nothing for trying, after all, as next time they can just take things out of if too many people complain. Having a lasting impact with lower sales is much more likely to get and keep their attention.

 

[busterkeatonrules]

All right, I've never owned an XBone and almost certainly never will, but I can at least share a few reasons why.

First and foremost, the usual complaints (Perma-Kinect, mandatory Internet connection at all times etc.) Yup. Leave it to Microsoft to provide the world with a console that looks even less attractive than the 360 with its 'chew up disc' and 'random self destruct' - functions. (I should note that I've never owned a 360 either.)

Secondly: This 'backpedal' thing, which removed the more unpopular features, was primarily a set of software upgrades - which means that MS can just wait until enough people have bought XBones, and then just as easily reactivate everything again.

Third, I don't like the idea of one device doing everything for me. Give me a decoder that decodes my TV shows, a toaster that makes toast and a console that I can use to play games. Besides, I already have all I need of those other things, so the extra functions of the XBone are completely redundant. The PS4, while equipped with a few extra functions of its own, is still primarily a gaming console - and therefore offers me far more gaming console (and less redundant crap) for my money!

Fourth, I do not trust any device that takes voice commands. Especially one that also functions as a TV decoder. Someone on TV might accidentally tell the XBone to delete my hard drive or something. Yeah. Go ahead and laugh - but you can't prove that it couldn't happen!

 

[FillerDmon]

Quite frankly, I don't take to being lied to my face and being both directly and back-handedly insulted, so when anyone does it, it makes me want to ignore the hell out of them.

When Microsoft did it, I decided thus: my normal policy is to get a system when I know that at least 10 games I want to play will be available on it and it alone.

The WiiU satisfied this already. Nintendo Land, Hyrule Warriors, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Wii U, Bayonetta 2, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3, soon to be released Yoshi's Wooly World, Splatoon, and Devil's Third. Among others.

The Xbone I was considering, genuinely and fairly, until Microsoft decided to let their Pr department start shitting into everyone's faces. Now, I wouldn't consider taking the console for free until there were 50 games that were exclusive to it and that weren't released onto any other system or format, particularly cross-console PC releases and simultaneous PS4 versions.

Because seriously, you can't call me an idiot to my face and expect me to give you my money anymore.

 

[Hairless Mammoth]

There was always that whole 'Lawl PS3 has no games' thing in its early lifespan, but when I actually did a comparative look between the libraries of the PS3 and Xbox 360 from the launch of the original Kinect onwards to the pre-8th gen period (because that's roughly when I 'switched' from one to the other,) it was actually the polar opposite. o.o PS3 has a solid lineup of varied titles, both Western and Japanese, whereas if you didn't own a Kinect, the only break you'd get from Halo, Gears and Forza would be a few PC-ported titles like the Witcher 2, Minecraft, and I believe a Toy Soldiers game. And as someone who never was that big a fan of Halo, (which I enjoyed, but wasn't a 'console seller' for me,) Gears (which I rapidly lost interest in after chainsaw-ing the fifth enemy,) or Forza (to be fair, not a fan of most racing games,) I had pretty much zilch in terms of incentive to return.

That's kinda how I felt about the lineup of the 7th gen. The 360 was what to get early on. Sony was touting their overpriced physical embodiment of "pure potential" ...that had almost nothing worth playing on it for the first few years. It was like a sports car that you couldn't take out for cruises, because every road near you was always jam packed or not suitable for a fast car. You were better off getting the sedan, since it was cheaper, could hold more people/cargo, and suited the area.

Things shifted for me as well, but I never really bought much for both, since I'm a picky, cheap SOB and I was moving toward PC and didn't see much reason to buy non-exclusives on boxes that hard to find parts. (My launch window 360 was about to RRoD on me (was lucky to get a brand spankin' new one for super cheap from a friend in 2010), and my PS3 optical drive somehow failed in 2012, so I had to scour the net for a replacement drive that matched my particular model. Also, my PS3 has a 5cm USB cable dangling from the front, since I broke the original port.)

OT: Another thing I should add is Microsoft's poor marketing and research, especially outside of North America. When the Kinect was mandatory/still a part of the only SKU for the 'bone, it was even less appealing for anyone without space in their living rooms, dorm rooms, or bedrooms. Lots of people across the globe don't have the space in a small house or apartment to use kinect. The voice commands, if MS even bothered with the language of the user, would not be worth the extra cost of the sensor. Also, special mention goes to obsessing with TV and sports (read: mostly American Football) during the first few PR events, when those won't interest most of the potential customers outside of the US (and quite a few within) for technical and taste reasons.

When they were told that the Big Brother DRM made the system useless to many because not everyone who would play games has internet access, MS should have also considered how the other features will be taken in different parts of the world. Even worse is they should already have had plenty of complaints about the previous Kinect's need of space. Instead of taking heed on that thought, they just improved the distance a little and made it mandatory. That hardheadedness made a lot of people dismiss the xbone, and it took one year for the announcement of the xbone for MS to fix that problem.

 

[theevilgenius60]

Here's the issue I have with both current generation consoles(Wiiu doesn't count, it doesn't). They are both fiddly as all hell with connection to the Internet when downloading. Small stoppage? Bam! You need to manually restart the dl. 360? You could start the download, CUT IT OFF, and it'd continue downloading as long as you left it plugged in. PS3? Same, but you had to leave it on. Ps4/bone? Nope! Says to leave it in sleep mode for it to keep going, but the first problem I mentioned(Fiddy connection and need to manually restart it) gets in the way of that. Basically, the last gen consoles were just better at downloading anything(especially the 360).

 

[CannibalCorpses]

I dislike it because i've managed to break 7 of the old machines and swore i would never pay for another shitty Microsoft product again. All the Kinect and DRM in the world can't trump that problem

 

[Tatsuya Hiroki]

correct me if im wrong but isnt the Xbone technically speaking inferior compared to PS4? (spec-wise)

 

[jklinders]

correct me if im wrong but isnt the Xbone technically speaking inferior compared to PS4? (spec-wise)

In almost every respect. That did not stop Nintendo from running roughshod over SEGA in the 80s and 90s though. SEGA had better tech in pretty near every generation, but a smaller library of games, little to no effort in to localizing the library they did have and terrible marketing. technical limitations an be overcome if you get the rest of your company working hard enough to overcome them and do it better than the other guys.

Microsoft is showing zero signs of doing this though. It's like they have already given up.

captcha: It's over

seriously captcha that was my goddam line.

 

[infohippie]

I dislike it (and the PS4) because their hardware is too underpowered. At least the 360 and PS3 had reasonable processing grunt at the time they were released, even if they did hang around just a few years too long. These new consoles were already obsolescent at time of release. They're going to hold back gaming worse than the previous generation did. Too little RAM, too slow clock, too few pipelines. I built a PC on the cheap a couple of years before these consoles were released and it still outperforms them. This is 2015 and the consoles have midrange 2010 specifications at best. Oh, and then there was the Big Brother crap on top of that. They may have removed it for now, but they showed their hand already. We know what they WANT to do, and it's not good for the gamer.

 

[Stg]

I hate the entire new generation simply because of how the tides have turned. It used to be a new console was announced and all people cared about were the games. Now, it seems like a political debate with console wars raging from every outlet.

Although, perhaps what I hate the most is how they are working games with DLC these days. Love Killer Instinct? Well, looks like you have to pay full price for the game and then you have to shell out more money to unlock all the characters.

 

[Tatsuya Hiroki]

correct me if im wrong but isnt the Xbone technically speaking inferior compared to PS4? (spec-wise)

In almost every respect. That did not stop Nintendo from running roughshod over SEGA in the 80s and 90s though. SEGA had better tech in pretty near every generation, but a smaller library of games, little to no effort in to localizing the library they did have and terrible marketing. technical limitations an be overcome if you get the rest of your company working hard enough to overcome them and do it better than the other guys.

Microsoft is showing zero signs of doing this though. It's like they have already given up.

captcha: It's over

seriously captcha that was my goddam line.

Thats true, but then again I guess it goes from both side: having a less powerful system but with more interesting games and having a powerful system with a lackluster amount of games.
However, as other people may have already said it: most of their "exclusive" games are not really worth the money to buy a console for it.
I mean can they really show up ANYTHING other than the same usual "but..but..we have Halo and Gears of War!!" mantra?
But yeah, you hit the nail on its head when you say that they have already given up. Not like they could really compete with PS4 and the upcoming Steam Machines..

 

[DrOswald]

I don't hate the Xbone, I just think it is inferior to the PS4, the Wii U and especially the PC in every way that matters. The PS4 does everything the Xbone does I care about better, the Wii U beats it hands down in terms of unique and interesting exclusives, and the PC is, as always, vastly superior to all other options. I can find a reason to have a PC, a Wii U and either a PS4 or an Xbone, and the PS4 is just better from what I have seen.

 

[kasperbbs]

I disliked it because it had mandatory kinect which resulted in higher prices, even though that feature is garbage, plus all of that other always online and similar nonsense that M$ was forced to ditch if they didn't want to completely fail with their launch. Now i dislike it simply for the fact that they tried to do all that and they might try it again in the future. And theres the fact that it's hardware seems to be weaker than the ps4's and i have no interest in any of it's current exclusives, i could play most of them on my PC if i wanted to..

 

[loa]

I have a large 360 game collection and can't play any of those on that darn thing, how about that?
Also the very fact that they even tried to apply those blatant anti-consumer tactics kinda marred microsofts image there and that's impressive coming from the inventors of subscription based online multiplayer bullshit which sony now also adapted (It spreads! THANKS MS!) and constant ads on the once-usable but now utterly ruined console dashboard.
And the thing has no games of any interest to me. That enough?

 

[Mong0]

I do for that reason, and the fact that it is at this point just an inferior pc.