RedDeadFred said:
That's assuming you turn around and sell it right away. If that's your thing, then sure, it'll probably be cheaper (for the first few months anyway). You also won't have any games... Also, from my experience, you rarely get more than half your money back when reselling a game. And that's usually only when the game is in high demand and quite new. Usually, things like Steam sales, Humble Bundles, and Kinguin make PC games much cheaper.
Anyway, I personally like to replay my games. Would I sell a game if I didn't like it? Yes. However, due to researching games before buying them, I have yet to actually buy a game I didn't like and wouldn't consider replaying.
As for your question on whether The Order is worth 15-20 dollars (very generous with the amount of money you're getting back, but okay), that would depend on the quality of gameplay. If it's a lot of fun and it's something I'd replay, then yes, it would probably be worth that. However, if I play it once and don't really care for it, then no, I don't think it would be worth the money.
Finally, if we're lowering the price of the 5 hour game, we also have to do that with the 100+ hour games. It's still the same comparison, just cheaper overall. Again, in that case, no it's not worth it IMO.
I can get at least $40 for a game that is still $60. I can have the game for a couple months too. If I do feel like replaying it at some point, by that time it'll be like $10 (or possibly free with PS+ especially if there's a sequel around the corner). $30 for a game that I can play right away and later replay it isn't that bad a price.
The Order isn't 5 hours long either. 100+ hour games have so much recycle content or padding, they cease being fun and more like a job than anything.
shrekfan246 said:
The way you brush off PC gamers is rather hilarious, as well. I don't like the death of physical copies either, but it's a basic fact that you're far more likely to be able to get PC games digitally than physically (and even the physical copies are dependent on digital DRM), and a large number of people--myself included--prefer to play games on the PC rather than on consoles.
I just return the favor of PC gamers brushing off console gamers, just tired of PC gamers acting like console gaming has no pros. Playing a game on bigger screen in a comfy chair/couch with a surround sound system is a far better experience than sitting at my desk playing with a keyboard and mouse (mouse is great but I hate using a keyboard, it was meant for typing).
Adam Jensen said:
Phoenixmgs said:
What's the point of waiting for a game to drop to $30, $20, or whatever when you can play it now for that price?
Because you get to own it for $20 instead of renting it for $20. Some people like their game collections.
I can buy it later for super cheap if I feel the need to replay it. With work and family, you're lucky to play all the games you're interested in, you don't really have the luxury of replaying games very often.
MysticSlayer said:
OK, then, now please explain to me how I'm going to have access to that $50 (between the buying and selling). In my current financial situation, it is important to have access to every dollar I can have access to and spend my money incredibly wisely. That includes not putting a lot of money down with the hopes of getting most of it back later, because I may need it between those two times.
Not everyone can afford this plan of yours, so it is absolutely pointless to use as a reference point when discussing the price. There's other issues also, but others have already pointed them out.
I'm far far from being rich, not even middle class, but how do you not have $50 available at basically all times? I make $13/hour currently, which is lower than the minimum wage in some places.
bartholen said:
You're right! For me, new games are actually 60 ?, which translates to roughly $68.
Yeah, because you can always trust that the game can be resold at 2/3 of its shelf price. Because it's always guaranteed that there are people who will buy your used game. Because everyone who resells games always does it immediately and not, say, 2-3 weeks later. Because everyone always buys new games at launch and not, say, 2-3 weeks later. Because the time and effort to put up a sale on, say EBay, transactions, posting and shipping don't factor into a person's willingness to put up a resale at all. Because there's no such thing as supply and demand, amirite?
The parameters by which you set your argument are so strict and limited that they just plain make your statement wrong. BTW, I hardly buy any games for more than 30? and even more rarely resell my games, but this argument is just so tunnel-visioned I had to put in my 5 cents.
You can have the game for 2-3 months. It's takes like a minute to list a game on eBay, you can get envelopes while you're at a store like Walmart, and all is left is making a trip to the post office. That comes out to like 10-15 minutes at best.
Pyro Yuy said:
Is it me or does it feel like tc is trying too hard to troll?
As a PC gamer though, I generally tend to get games on sale, and I've enough of a backlog that I don't really need to worry about not having a game to play... Or I can pick up something I know I'll play (Damn you battlefield!) at release for $30-40.
Sometimes you just wanna play that new game now. And, I don't pay a premium for doing that. I usually don't buy games right away because I'm playing something else usually and backlogs obviously.
Signa said:
The thread title is correct: Evolve apparently costs $160, and if you wait for sales on Steam, they cost $5. It's a strawman argument to say they don't actually cost $60 when that is the standard retail price almost fully across the board for new games.
People also don't know what a strawman argument is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Elfgore said:
Where in the nine hells are you trading in your games at? I'm lucky to get twenty, twenty-five dollars for a new game. I remember my friend talked me into pre-ordering Dishonored, the bastard, I ended up turning it in a week after release for twenty bucks. I was still out forty bucks.
Moving on, this is not logical... at all. Digital purchases have already been brought up. Not to mention that how will I know when I want to replay something? Buy it again just means more money out of my pocket. I think I've bought, turned in, and re-bought TES: Oblivion well over sixty dollars. Getting no more than twenty dollars for the games I turned in, which is three I think.
eBay
Why buy digitally when it's inferior to having a physical copy? By the time you'd probably want to replay it, it will be super cheap so say $20 + $10-$20 is still only $40 max, which isn't a bad price for a game, especially one you enjoyed enough to want to play again.
