Do you believe in aliens?

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It's statistically inevitable they exist, but we haven't made contact yet.
I'm not sure how to feel about that video though, I think all those 'sightings' could probably be debunked (and frankly I don't know why aliens would visit us in the first place, or if they did, why they keep bothering to return) but that video ... I wouldn't hold too much legitimacy to it.
 

ripdajacker

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Their existence is probable, but that they hide and experiment on us? Unlikely.

Probability theory tells us life exists elsewhere.
 

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crudus said:
If I remember right, there are 50 habitable planets within 20 lightyears of Earth (I may have those numbers backwards). If I remember right, there is one planet with life on it and three what scientists have said "Yeah, life could be or could have been there" just within our solar system. Considering we are one of 100 billion galaxies with 100 billion stars making them up, I would say it is very likely life is somewhere else out there. It is at least 1.4 parsecs away though.
1.4 parsecs isn't very far though is it? Astronomically speaking that is. That's only about four and a half light years. Which in the grand scheme of things is pretty close.
 

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As Douglas Adams so eloquently put it, space is big. The probability that this is the only planet in the universe where sapient life emerged, let alone life in general, is so astronomically (hah) small that it isn't even worth considering. The universe is vast and ancient, and who knows what lives out there.

However, that same probability also works against the popular conception of aliens. Not only are the spaces between stars and galaxies so incomprehensibly vast that any travel between them would be arduous beyond reason, but also that even if there were millions of inhabited worlds in this galaxy humanity might still never encounter any of them. Furthermore, most supposed sightings of aliens are at BEST sightings of UFOs, and prone to idiotic "undefined flying object, therefore aliens" reasoning (similar to the "I don't know, therefore god" that leads to creationism) that indicates a focus more on wishful thinking than an actual desire to discover.

So yes, aliens almost certainly exist. But there is no evidence whatsoever that any have ever come here.
 

Tanis

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Non-Earth Life:
Yes - too many stars and planets not to be.

Non-Humans visiting Earth:
No.
 

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Yes, there's gotta be more life out there. I kind of wonder if some actually did visit this planet as well, it would give a lot of meaning to religious texts and the like. A part of me likes to believe they're angels, a part of me is also the 8 year old kid who was always looking towards the stars...
 

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Statistically it would be impossible for other lifeforms not to exist.

Being sentient, capable of interstellar travel and finding us who barely reached the edge of our tiny solar system... highly improbable.
But those sightings are always a hoot to figure out, and before you jizz your tinfoil hat just remember there is secret military tech being tested every day.
 

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Yes, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the WAAAAGGGH! descends upon us all.

Seriously though, if you mean intelligent life unlikely but possible. Do I believe we'll ever meet them? Laws of physics say no. Unless the aliens have lifespans of 1000's of years.
 

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Hummmy said:
So I just wanted to ask all the escapee's if you think aliens are real or not?
Yes. Universe is simply too big for us to be alone, intelligent species.

Hummmy said:
Do you think we'll ever make contact?
Yes, but not in the "mainstream" way. There will be no crashland nor invasion.
My bet is on something close to "Contact" movie (with Jodie Foster).

Hummmy said:
What the hell are the things in that video?
Chinese inventions.
 

KrabbiPatty

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Of course I do.

People overstate just how "otherworldly" aliens are. First off, statistically there is almost a certainty that aliens exist, and intelligent life, even if phenomenally rare, must have evolved somewhere else because nothing happens in a void. If it happened here it can theoretically happen almost anywhere, for obvious reasons (e.g., the laws of physics are identical across the universe so anything happening here must, by definition, be just as possible anywhere else under similar circumstances).

And interstellar travel requires only a large supply of antimatter and the willingness to spend years traveling between systems at relativistic speed. Many, many, many physicists and scientists on Earth have already drawn up a multitude of ways to build antimatter rockets for this very reason and any one of them is equally plausible, given a sufficient technology base...and that only requires they're a few thousand or tens of thousands of years older than we are, or got lucky.

In my opinion, people don't want to accept the possibility of alien life and by extension visitation, because it IS admittedly scary to admit that not only are we not alone but our roommates happy to be hundreds or thousands of years more advanced than us. But from a realistic standpoint nothing makes alien life or visitation "impossible" or even "improbable". Indeed the only improbable thing is that we're alone in the universe, or that every other possible species is completely non-intelligent. It's wishful thinking by people who don't want their apple cart upended.

And there's nothing WRONG with that. But let's not pretend that this is something so bizarre and alien when in fact, scientists on Earth already have drawn up designs for interstellar arks and spacecraft and our civilization only gained space travel a few decades ago. In fact we had realistic designs for nuclear powered spacecraft on the table in the 60s, when they were talking about high-end estimates being ships the size of skyscrapers capable of traveling at nearly 80% of light-speed, IN THE SIXTIES. (no bullshit, look up "Orion Drive") A race a few hundred or thousand years older could easily have built more sophisticated designs--or not, the Orion designs were perfectly serviceable. Oh and yeah, they did kind of look like the spaceships people claim to see...so yeah...aliens exist.
 

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Alright so from what I gather, most of you believe aliens exist.. But don't believe they've visited earth or ever will?

But if they're aliens.. And happen to be WAY technologically advanced than we are, what's to say that a light year to them is not all that far?
That traveling between galaxies is easy for them?

I'm not trying to tell you all that you're wrong, I'm just creating more discussion and getting my idea out there.
 

KrabbiPatty

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Traveling between galaxies is probably out of the question. But assuming they have relativistic ships, interstellar travel probably isn't out of the question. It'd take hundreds of years, but then again we have no idea how long they can live or if they've developed some way of getting around this, such as brain uploading or sending out automated ships.

It's hardly impossible, though even I, an admitted believer in alien visitation, will admit the vast majority of sightings are almost certainly bullshit. But even if one out of a thousand is NOT that is significant.
 

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Aliens are mathamaticly guarenteed. the universe is infineite, so anything that has a non zero chance of happening is guarenteed to happen, and life has happened at least once (here) so it will have to happen elsewhere.

whether or not Aliens have come here and interacted with humans is much less likely, because of the chances of them randomly coming across earth is quite low, and some super advanced species probly has better things to do.

As to the video, UFO sightings tend to be blown out of proportion, as several UFO sceptics tests will show, such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vURLzEnOkgE and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfywUVe3H5c&feature=related show.

as an interesting side note, in the 1920s and 30s there was a massive hype over zeplins and blimps being seen around the world in places it wasnt physicly possible for them to be. this occured before the rise of sci-fi in movies, but during the age of the blimp which might explain how the sighting crazes work
 

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No, they are just humans from the future.

Seriously, it's possible and if we're including nicellular stuff and simple organisms they it's very likely.
 

StargateSpankyHam

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Try your hand at the Drake Equation one day - and without the unfounded assumption that all life requires liquid water. The numbers are massive, and that is for our galaxy alone.

Also, remember - the technological state of a civilization directly affects its range of awareness to other civilizations. There could be stone-age aliens living on Europa, and they wouldn't have a clue that we exist at all. Similarly, if there is even a single species out there that has technology to manipulate time and space to their will, they could be billions of light years away, and observe us as easily and effortlessly as we observe backyard insects.

It's not a matter of 'if' they're out there. It's just that we aren't advanced enough to observe them yet. Our detection range, under the best of circumstances, is limited to only the star systems in very close proximity to our own.
 

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I believe aliens have a massive mathematical chance of existing. I don't believe the universe is infinite (I'll explain why in a moment) but it's undoubtedly so big that pretty much everything must exist. As for why I believe the universe has limits: The Big Bang created matter, but how much can it possibly have created? When the matter runs out, what then? Nothing? Nothing is not possible.
 

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I'd like to direct you all to this image:
http://i.imgur.com/HkWEf.jpg

Anyone that can look at that and say "Nope, we're definitely the only planet with any form of life on it", is kidding themselves. We're a grain of sand on Tattooine. We're a single mocule of H20 in an ocean so large we can't even imagine it. The universe wasn't made for us, and we need to stop pretending like it somehow was, simply cause we're not smart enough to produce the "proof" yet.
 

lionsprey

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got the same view as a lot of people in this thread. Yeah they exist probably exist but they don't come here