Yes,I do. In fact,I have a minor sixth sense, Which on occasion allows me to Lucid Dream and I'll predict a strange event from the next day, once I even predicted getting into a car crash. THATS what left me thinking it wasn't just deja vu
How do you suggest proving someone can see the future when it manifests how it does for me?ThrobbingEgo said:*snip*Eqan Asif said:*snip*PurePareidolia said:*snip*rokkolpo said:*snip*
And I will reciprocate that feeling, graciously. And the reason I don't want to go in that debate is not because any personal trait that makes it formidable, but because of the very nature of the subject. It is touchy; [in my experience] any comments on the subject matter are perceived as personal insults: it is because we only believe in what we are looking for. You have already found the answer you are looking for, we all do that from the very day we are born. And it is the nature of man that we cannot unsee that what we have found: I say lies not because they are contradictory to any sort of conventional, logical observation. They are lies because they revolve around a system contrived to satisfy our basest of desires--power. It makes us feel good when something agrees with us, for many it is faith that binds them, and represents for them an eternal truth. But the trend is changing, and we have replaced that faith with science, even though it holds not truer than it's predecessor.ThrobbingEgo said:What lies? Show me a study in a peer reviewed medical journal that demonstrates the remote possibility of psychic abilities (not just a book, but a peer reviewed medical study).Eqan Asif said:Oh dear. I'd hate to go in a debate with you. So many lies--my head just might explodePurePareidolia said:Hypnosis isn't a sense and if you watch Uri Geller a bit more closely he really sucks at sleight of hand. Just saying. It was that or make a joke about The sixth sense being an alright movie and going "oh wait".rokkolpo said:hypnosis is very real.
also many other weird things.
*watch the uri geller show, freaky shit there*
Anywho, you haven't told me what you mean by sixth sense aside from something vaguely approaching the description of a 'gut feeling' which I consider less of a 'sense' as an instinctive conclusion based on input from your other senses. If for example you walked into the same room with your eyes closed you probably wouldn't have gotten any feeling of 'bad news'.
Similarly 'sensing doorways and walls' is called memory. as in I'm familiar with this room and can vaguely estimate the location of solid objects within it due to having seen it.
Again, walk into a completely unfamiliar room with your eyes closed and then try sensing the furniture.
If you're referring to some form of telepathy and being able to glean thoughts and feelings from the minds of others using means undetectable to any form of medical science, then I don't believe that either. The human brain has no structures that resemble transmitters or receivers of any form of electromagnetic radiation such as radio waves, the skull insulates any bioelectric field it does produce and no accounts of psychic abilities follow any of the laws of physics, such as distance based falloff or being able to be blocked by dense objects.
Compound that with the fact that if something was happening we would certainly be able to detect it, build our own receivers or at least form a theory that predicts it's existance.
The fact that every so called psychic who ever lived has either been shown to be a fraud or has refused to be tested does not give me confidence in such a phenomona's existance.
Even if one of them was a psychic, they all follow methods indistinguishable from stage magic techniques (such as cold reading and sleight of hand) and nine times out of ten an honest magician can do them better, meaning that any effect that there is would be utterly useless in any practical sense.
Finally it makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint - we don't see chimps having the beginnings of telepathy, and if it was a real trait, it would provide significant evolutionary advantage and large numbers of people would have it. we'd also be able to track the gene's progression geographically via it's frequency of expression and all that cool stuff.
In summary, no, there's no as of yet undiscovered 'sixth sense', psychic or otherwise and there's no plausible mechanism that could explain it's existence and that is also compatible with the laws of physics.
Go ahead, I'll wait. http://scholar.google.ca/
I'd hate to get in a debate with you. You make accusations without providing any reasons or support.
That's due to your brain mapping your surroundings. Blind people have a similar way of doing that, but by feeling/hearing ect. If you want to call your brain a sense, go ahead.SamFancyPants252 said:and even if everything is completely silent and I have my eyes closed I can still 'sense' doorways and walls and people around me.
Sounds like deja vu, not actual prediction. My null hypothesis would be you experience something, think "did I predict that?" then remember "oh yeah, I think I did predict something like that one time", as you go on trying to 'remember' it, you begin filing in the details with your current experience. This alteration of memories is not an undocumented pheonomona, much like an internal Chinese whispers - memories can be spliced together, details can be added and they often alter to emphasise emotions or feelings you associate with that memory.Ridonculous_Ninja said:How do you suggest proving someone can see the future when it manifests how it does for me?
I see very, very short clips in PERFECT clarity of the future. Everything is exactly how it will happen; I hear it, see it and feel it. But I forget I have dreamt it until it happens and I pause to think, "Wow, wait, I've done this before,".
How do you prove that to the scientific community? You cannot, so you must be content in the knowledge that you believe in it. So in that sense it's kind of like religion.
Huh.
Maybe I should stop railing on them for believing in God...
lol wut? Seriously hope you're just trolling.Eqan Asif said:And I will reciprocate that feeling, graciously. And the reason I don't want to go in that debate is not because any personal trait that makes it formidable, but because of the very nature of the subject. It is touchy; [in my experience] any comments on the subject matter are perceived as personal insults: it is because we only believe in what we are looking for. You have already found the answer you are looking for, we all do that from the very day we are born. And it is the nature of man that we cannot unsee that what we have found: I say lies not because they are contradictory to any sort of conventional, logical observation. They are lies because they revolve around a system contrived to satisfy our basest of desires--power. It makes us feel good when something agrees with us, for many it is faith that binds them, and represents for them an eternal truth. But the trend is changing, and we have replaced that faith with science, even though it holds not truer than it's predecessor.
You can wait, but you will be waiting a very, very, long time. It suffices that "I" think there is a sixth sense, and I will be lying to myself if I try to justify it any other way--the way that you are doing it.
So he was lying in a way that was not actually lying, but correlated with all medical tests done in good faith for the purpose of reliably gaining knowledge. I'll take those "lies" over nudged observations and unfounded conclusions.Eqan Asif said:*Snip*
How can you distinguish that from the well-documented phenomena of deja vu [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu], confirmation bias [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias], and false memories [http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/02/therapists-can-implant-false-beliefs.php]?Ridonculous_Ninja said:How do you suggest proving someone can see the future when it manifests how it does for me?ThrobbingEgo said:*snip*Eqan Asif said:*snip*PurePareidolia said:*snip*rokkolpo said:*snip*
I see very, very short clips in PERFECT clarity of the future. Everything is exactly how it will happen; I hear it, see it and feel it. But I forget I have dreamt it until it happens and I pause to think, "Wow, wait, I've done this before,".
How do you prove that to the scientific community? You cannot, so you must be content in the knowledge that you believe in it. So in that sense it's kind of like religion.
Huh.
Maybe I should stop railing on them for believing in God...
Does the ability to distinguish Shakespeare's Hamlet from reality fall under mild intuition?cerebus23 said:I believe in occasional occurrences of precognition or mild intuition.
There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy horatio.
Man why does that always happens to people with pre-cognition. Makes you wonder if something mysterious is preventing them from doing anything about it.Ridonculous_Ninja said:But I forget I have dreamt it until it happens and I pause to think, "Wow, wait, I've done this before,".
I take no offense to being told I'm wrong. By all means, go all out - if I am wrong, it's the only way I'll become right. Now I don't think it's likely, but I'm absolutely open to the possibility. In fact I would have no qualms about debating anyone over the nature of the phenomona or lack thereof. While you're correct about confirmation biases, I like to consider myself as above such things as one can be without being a robot. I change my mind all the time - I used to believe in psychics, for one. And I would love nothing more than to have psychic powers, I just don't think the hypothesis is plausible, nor do I think evidence has shown it to exist.Eqan Asif said:And I will reciprocate that feeling, graciously. And the reason I don't want to go in that debate is not because any personal trait that makes it formidable, but because of the very nature of the subject. It is touchy; [in my experience] any comments on the subject matter are perceived as personal insults: it is because we only believe in what we are looking for. You have already found the answer you are looking for, we all do that from the very day we are born. And it is the nature of man that we cannot unsee that what we have found: I say lies not because they are contradictory to any sort of conventional, logical observation. They are lies because they revolve around a system contrived to satisfy our basest of desires--power. It makes us feel good when something agrees with us, for many it is faith that binds them, and represents for them an eternal truth. But the trend is changing, and we have replaced that faith with science, even though it holds not truer than it's predecessor.
You can wait, but you will be waiting a very, very, long time. It suffices that "I" think there is a sixth sense, and I will be lying to myself if I try to justify it any other way--the way that you are doing it.
I will forever associate that quote with Storm [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_htqDCP-s], by Tim Minchincerebus23 said:I believe in occasional occurrences of precognition or mild intuition.
There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy horatio.
What extra sensed people?NIHILHATE said:It disturbs me how many people treat extra sensed people like crazy idiots.
common sense for some people is a "sixth sense" we all know that guy that dosnt have any....yes him...the guy who shot fireworks out of his ass cheeks last 4th of JulyMarter said:You mean those times where everyone is staring at their shoes with tears coming from their eyes?Marik2 said:I mean come on haven't you guys ever gone to a room and you know you would here bad news when you just entered it?
I don't consider that to be a "sixth sense", more like "common sense".