Do you fear death?
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roughly this, it's not that i'm really afraid of death, it's more i'm afraid of what i'm leaving behind, not being there for alot of people in my family (my family is pretty close, and i'm the oldest of all my cousins and brothers so they look up to me/depend on me alot)TakerFoxx said:
i'd prefer to leave here knowing i've done a good job for future generations, so yeah, i'm afraid of not accomplishing my life to what i would deem "fullest".
hopefully after that though i'll be able to be at peace with it, i mean it is inevitable so not much you can do really.
I don't fear death, it's the dying I fear. Not a big fan of pain, so I hope my death comes without it.
genetic inconvenience?CrawlingPastaHellion said:
try universal inconvenience, everything dies at some point, if someone were to somehow manipulate science into "fixing" that, they would be a god among women/men.
You don't have to fear death to want to avoid it. I certainly don't want to die right now, but if I would... Meh. The only reason to be afraid of it is if your death causes intense suffering for others, or, let's say, you're protecting your child from a madman. Because your life is the only thing that stands between EA-er I mean the madman, and your child.crimsonshrouds said:
But other than that, it's simply something to look forward to
I'm not really afraid of death so much as I dislike pain, and pretty much anything that causes the former also causes the latter so there isn't much of a difference.
everyone fears death. You can make excuses for why you want to avoid death but it always boils down to fear.Substitute Troll said:You don't have to fear death to want to avoid it. I certainly don't want to die right now, but if I would... Meh. The only reason to be afraid of it is if your death causes intense suffering for others, or, let's say, you're protecting your child from a madman. Because your life is the only thing that stands between EA-er I mean the madman, and your child.crimsonshrouds said:
But other than that, it's simply something to look forward to
Humanity wouldnt be where it is without fear of death.
I get a spiritual feeling; a connection with certain things. Environments. Architecture, landscapes, places. It must be a serotonin dump, or something. It's wonderful. I would kill my family, if someone could guarantee I experience that feeling permanently. It is the imagery, and sounds, and other experiences that give me it though. I peruse them, but they are inconsistent, and fleeting. Similar in theme though. Cutting edge modern architecture does it for me very occasionally, as does Nazi film footage, as does an occasional landscape, or sunset. It's like a fond memory, or something. Something lost. Cannot explain it, at all. Cant wait until I have the qualifications to do some tests on it.
Anyway. I don't think it's spiritual, or super-natural. it feels like it. God, does it feel like it. If I were a 13th century peasant, I would believe for all the world that god had touched me, that I had felt heaven. But, I'm not. I'm well educated, and perfectly aware that it's brain chemistry. I will miss that feeling. A feeling most would assume was heaven. Nothing else. Well, I'll miss other things. But, I can cope with the other things. they don't run deep. They are surface level. This isn't. This strikes at the very core of my being. Eternity will writhe, when faced with my pain; losing that feeling.
It's probably a brain tumour...
p.s The family murdering thing is true. I feel bad, hurting flies. But, in the hypothetical event that I was offered that feeling forever, I would slaughter anyone. It's not a raw pleasurable feeling, like sex, or ice cream. It's like a lovey, longingy, peaceful feeling. Of coming home. It's remarkable. I need to get into an MRI, get some blood tests. I don't know. but I need to find out what's happening in my brain, and why its connected to certain things. I mean, nazi footage; what the hell?
Anyway. I don't think it's spiritual, or super-natural. it feels like it. God, does it feel like it. If I were a 13th century peasant, I would believe for all the world that god had touched me, that I had felt heaven. But, I'm not. I'm well educated, and perfectly aware that it's brain chemistry. I will miss that feeling. A feeling most would assume was heaven. Nothing else. Well, I'll miss other things. But, I can cope with the other things. they don't run deep. They are surface level. This isn't. This strikes at the very core of my being. Eternity will writhe, when faced with my pain; losing that feeling.
It's probably a brain tumour...
p.s The family murdering thing is true. I feel bad, hurting flies. But, in the hypothetical event that I was offered that feeling forever, I would slaughter anyone. It's not a raw pleasurable feeling, like sex, or ice cream. It's like a lovey, longingy, peaceful feeling. Of coming home. It's remarkable. I need to get into an MRI, get some blood tests. I don't know. but I need to find out what's happening in my brain, and why its connected to certain things. I mean, nazi footage; what the hell?
My only response is simply that, as conscious beings, trying to think objectively outside of being conscious beings is almost an exercise in futility. I associate consciousness with the existence of the mind, (though I suppose something could be self-aware and still unable to think) and the mind, as the effects of drugs and chemicals show, is contained in and able to exist thanks to the brain. So, no more brain function, no more mind, no more (most likely) consciousness. And even if that wasn't the end, you would at least be devoid of the elements of consciousness that allow us to discuss things like this.Velvo said:
Hopefully this even makes sense in response to your post and I didn't completely misunderstand you. You weren't exactly writing on a fifth-grade level =P
Not in the slightest bit. I either go to heaven (which I do believe exist) or I just take a super long nap.
gmaverick019 said:
Well, there will be a lot more God's around a century, maybe a few decades, from now. Since a cure for ageing is an extremely possible scientific advancement that will be made. It's just a matter of time. There are animals that don't age. Ageing is an evolved trait, like everything else. Evolution/god could have dialled almost any age into our genes, if it was necessary. Turns out 60 is about optimum for human genetic survival. 21 days for a fly. 200+ years for some tortoise. Infinity, for some worms, and all bacteria.
Personally not really. I'm not going to go out and seek death but when it comes I won't run from it. Seeing as if I die honourably I'll go to Asgaard well, I think I can accept that.
Oh, I didn't see you there, GandalfTh3Ch33s3Cak3 said:
I'm merely wondering why you believe that more so than other beliefs about what occurs after death. Do you have personal experience that indicates, to you at least, that there is an afterlife?MoeTheMonk said:
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I welcome the concept [sub]-I'm an Atheist; I'm betting on what seems most likely to me-[/sub], of an emptiness, a state of non-existence. No effort, no stress, no negative emotions or feeling whatsoever. Of course, every emotion, good or bad I can no longer experience, but I do not care for that. I am apathetic towards the high likelihood of succeeding in 'completing' a happy and fulfilled life, with regrets I can come to terms with.
I am apathetic towards the strong possibility that I will only feel this way for a maximum of a few more years.
I just don't care, and I don't care to change it.
The only thing preventing me from suicide is the guilt I feel for the pain and inconvenience I would cause to other people still living.
I don't want to leave this world as a selfish douchebag; this is an irrational and logically stupid desire (what with my beliefs in non-existence), but unsurprisingly, I don't care that it is irrational.
My survival instinct is still intact, however. But given a calm choice, I'd choose death.
But with these feelings, I am a potential asset to the world! I'm willing to sacrifice myself for others: to jump in front of a bullet, to be stabbed in the chest, to hold off a pack of angry badgers terrorizing a town by offering myself as easy prey. At least those would be guiltless methods of indirect suicide.
But as long as life is easy, I have no serious qualms with living.
To be perfectly honest i dont think i do fear death, although i know i dont want to die yet but if i was told that tmro i would be dead in a week that would not bother me but my main fear is that my dog would miss me and not have the brain capacity to understand that i wouldnt be coming back lol