Do you Hate JRPGs??

[TrevHead]

My problem with JRPGs is the overabundance of filler and side quests that some have because I ended burning myself out well before I've finished the main story. I understand that many JRPGs are for obsesive types who will spend 200hrs getting everything however it would be nice if devs could make two game modes so I can ignore it without feeling like i'm missing something important.

I've since learned to try to ignore side quests and filler unless its really interesting. The Last Remnant is the only AAA JRPG on PC and is uber heavy on the stuff so I can imagine PC gamers playing that game as an intro to the genre and getting burnt (I did)

I recently played the ARPG Ys Origin and it felt like a breath of fresh air as it had no filler and was really focussed. It does have RPG style levels so you can grind, however it's only a matter of 2-3 minutes to raise a level and 1 level can make a big difference in difficulty.

It was really nice to play a Japanese RPG like that, It would be great if there were more games localised to the 360 & PC which are similar. I really need to play the recent JRPGs on the Wii those look like fun
As for JPGs I tend to prefer Phantasy Star 1 and 2-4 plus Tales style combat over traditional battle systems

EDIT I also really enjoyed FFXIII for much the same reasons as Ys and the battle system was good also. However I quit when the game opened up, the grinding and having to waste time changing your team for each battle were too much

 

[GloatingSwine]

Wait you dislike many things in jrpgs but like ffx-2 and ffxiii-2 ? What really? I don't understand . What did those games do better than any other jrpg out there . Iv'e played those ( and hated them ) and cannot see what those two games have done better than any other game out these . Arguebly they have done things much worst.

As much terrible cheese as the plot of FFX-2 was, the battle system is without doubt the best implementation of Final Fantasy's ATB system there has ever been, and it also has the the best New Game + system as well, where you keep your job levels but lose your character levels, starting again with an advantage but not making it a total faceroll because you're level 99 and nothing has scaled.

It also gives you full freedom of the world from the start, and several imperial fuckloads of content apart from the main line of the plot (unlike FFX, which was literally "walk in a line until you win", FFXIII had the same disease.), where all the side plots that run through the game persist and progress as you go through, unlike practically every other RPG, J or not, where you do a sidequest and that area goes into stasis for the rest of the game.

If FFX-2's plot had been for serious yo rather than some kind of Charlie's Angels cheese people would probably be spunking over it to this day, because mechanically and structurally it's actually really fucking good, and it's just about the only FF game I'm seriously tempted to go back and play these days.

 

[dimensional]

The Last Remnant is the only AAA JRPG on PC and is uber heavy on the stuff so I can imagine PC gamers playing that game as an intro to the genre and getting burnt (I did)

ok just going to say I like JRPGS overall they are among the best and admittedly worse games I have ever played (the best ones make up for the dross). The Last Remnant is terrible though even I couldnt force myself to complete it despite wasting 60 + hours on its crap uninteresting story, bad battle system, unlikeable characters, poor graphics, poor art direction and shitty leveling and save system (yeah save wherever you like usually but no checkpoints = saving every second).

In short its a bad game very very bad your life would be richer from never playing it. Anyway Op I hate JRPGS and I love JRPGS done right they are among the best games ever made done wrong they are abyssmal.

 

[TrevHead]

The Last Remnant is the only AAA JRPG on PC and is uber heavy on the stuff so I can imagine PC gamers playing that game as an intro to the genre and getting burnt (I did)

ok just going to say I like JRPGS overall they are among the best and admittedly worse games I have ever played (the best ones make up for the dross). The Last Remnant is terrible though even I couldnt force myself to complete it despite wasting 60 + hours on its crap uninteresting story, bad battle system, unlikeable characters, poor graphics, poor art direction and shitty leveling and save system (yeah save wherever you like usually but no checkpoints = saving every second).

In short its a bad game very very bad your life would be richer from never playing it. Anyway Op I hate JRPGS and I love JRPGS done right they are among the best games ever made done wrong they are abyssmal.

I put over 100 hours into it because I actually enjoyed playing the game, it isn't really a good JRPG but when one hasn't played a JRPG since FFX I didn't let its faults get to me too much , my problem was that I spent too much time with the sidequests at the start of the game so even when I had gotten very far into the game I was very much sick of playing it.

Maybe where I went wrong was that I was approaching it more like a WRPG where I can more easily juggle side quests and main plot to keep the game intresting till the end.