spartan231490 said:
Nice straw man, but not what I said. I said that you owe your parents for bringing you into this world and caring for you. Without them, you wouldn't be alive, and if you don't see an obligation in that, your moral compasss is so fucked up, I'll be shocked if you can find the parking lot.
The only reason I wouldnt be alive under their care is if :
A: They decided to not have a child or
B: They were so horrifically abusive I died.
Again, I really dont see a point in being thankful for lack of B. Everyone I spent time with as a child managed this, should I still be equally thankful?
I do love my parents, and I do owe them very much, but not for basic shit like feeding and clothing me, keeping your kid alive isnt an impressive feat, and no parent deserves anything for not letting their child die. Seriously. Thats the bare minimum.
Sure im kinda thankful for A, but anyone can do A, i could have been anyones kids. And its outright ILLEGAL not to do B. Like they would be arrested for it, and rightly so.
Chances are you do owe your parents, since parents on the whole tend to go above and beyond. But a parent fulfilling the same duties to you as any pet owner owes to an animal, thats not particularly impressive, thats extremely basic.
Also I dont take kindly to the personal attacks, you can go hand out medals to everyone who didnt starve their child to death but personally I dont see it as that amazing. GOOD parents deserve medals, and I personally feel like I have some of the best parents I could of had, and for THAT im grateful. If my father did the bare legal minimum and nothing else, no love or affection or teaching, id owe him exactly jack squat.
Its wrong to say I dont think I owe the people who
raised me my kindness, goodwill and time for doing the same for me when they didnt legally need to. I dont owe them for the food, or the shelter or the other costs that every adult should be aware of before they have a child and is illegal not to provide. Children are a life decision, not a long term loan for cash. Although to be fair youve convinced me I owe my mother for carrying me for 9 months and living that whole time with my best health interests in mind, the physical act of birth was pretty traumatic just to create me.
But thats not really what the OP meant, he means holding basic human needs like "I give you water and food so you must obey me!", which is stupid because its illegal and monstrous to not do that.
EDIT: Post too long