I live in a Middle Eastern country called Bahrain. Guess most of you have heard of it by now cause of all the protests going on here. One thing I can say is, I ABSOLUTELY do not respect the police forces in this country. The Bahraini royal family employ only Sunnis (a sect of Islam) and naturalized Pakistanis and Yemenis in their police forces and their army. Bahraini Shiites (the other sect in Islam) weren't allowed (and still aren't) to join the army or the police forces because they are the oppressed majority. The royal family in Bahrain are from the Sunni sect which is the minority in Bahrain (around 30%). The Shiites in Bahrain have been living under oppression for so long and are trying to establish fairness and equality in this system through peaceful protests. They have attempted this in the past, but the closest they came was this time. They've been protesting ever since February of this year and things have still yet to settle down and they still did not get what they want.
Do you respect your police force?
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I have never even seen a black cop (IRL), so i'll take your word for it. I heard similar thing from others, weird how things work.RickRoll said:
I respect people by default unless they give me a reason not to, Cops get a little more for two reasons. If they are "good cops"(which most are) they protect innocents and enforce the law which is needed by society and a pretty unappreciated field. If they are "bad" cop I pretend to because its best not to piss them off and cause an incident. Though in general I like cops, my dad is one and most of his friends I've met have been pretty cool guys, even went to a KISS concert with a few and had a bunch of laughs.
BTW, I live in a good sized city(about 70,000) so it isn't a big city or middle of nowhere.
BTW, I live in a good sized city(about 70,000) so it isn't a big city or middle of nowhere.
This is completely right. There are some bad apples but then again, there are bad apples in all walks of life but I credit the police force with respect it is due.GodsAndFishes said:
I'm Australian
New Hampshire, USA here.
While I can respect individual officers on a case-by-case situation, I can't respect the local police departments around here at all.
In my town, a few years ago, a number of police officers broke into the local fire department and vandalized it. When the fire department called them out on it, the police completely denied it despite being caught on camera.
Also in my town we had one officer who left the force after being reported for physically assaulting his wife and daughter and killing the family cat. We had another officer who left the force after totalling three police cruisers attempting to do the complex driving maneuvers you see in action movies. Then there's our police chief who sued the town over some kind of contractual breach, walked off with $250,000 - and kept his job (notable the quality of law enforcement in the area plummeted after that, until he finally left).
And the cops in the next town over abuse the hell out of their power regularly on the road. One time I had an officer tailgating me, he then proceeded to cross over a double-yellow line to pass me, driving easily 70mph in a 30mph zone with no lights or siren on. At the next intersection, while I was waiting for the light, I saw his cruiser parked at a Dunkin Donuts. /facepalm
While I can respect individual officers on a case-by-case situation, I can't respect the local police departments around here at all.
In my town, a few years ago, a number of police officers broke into the local fire department and vandalized it. When the fire department called them out on it, the police completely denied it despite being caught on camera.
Also in my town we had one officer who left the force after being reported for physically assaulting his wife and daughter and killing the family cat. We had another officer who left the force after totalling three police cruisers attempting to do the complex driving maneuvers you see in action movies. Then there's our police chief who sued the town over some kind of contractual breach, walked off with $250,000 - and kept his job (notable the quality of law enforcement in the area plummeted after that, until he finally left).
And the cops in the next town over abuse the hell out of their power regularly on the road. One time I had an officer tailgating me, he then proceeded to cross over a double-yellow line to pass me, driving easily 70mph in a 30mph zone with no lights or siren on. At the next intersection, while I was waiting for the light, I saw his cruiser parked at a Dunkin Donuts. /facepalm
Yes, yes I do. I live in Wisconsin and the police here have many, many more applicants than they have positions and as such are able to pick and choose. Many of our police officers are college graduates with talents ranging from the academic to the physical. I really do think that our police can and will handle whatever's thrown at them.
Well... this has been eye opening.
No, not really, I realize that the average person holds up police to some bizzare standard where they expect us to "unflinching yet work things on case by case" or "strict yet compassionate" etc.
Many of you state how one or two instances are what turn you off to your local dept. Yet then you say "I judge it on a case by case basis"
Maybe I should do another ask a cop/detective thread?
In actuality in the united states the amount of african american officers is off. If it was representative of the us as a whole about 13% of all law enforcement should be black. As it stands (last I recall reading about it in an FOP newsletter) it's higher than that (I want to say it's like 19%).
So maybe it's just where you live?
The first statement about self racism. Yeah, I've seen more of that than anything else. It has to do with a 'if i can come from the same neighborhood as you and turn out fine why can't you? You're making us all look bad" thought process. I've seen all races do it though.
No, not really, I realize that the average person holds up police to some bizzare standard where they expect us to "unflinching yet work things on case by case" or "strict yet compassionate" etc.
Many of you state how one or two instances are what turn you off to your local dept. Yet then you say "I judge it on a case by case basis"
Maybe I should do another ask a cop/detective thread?
25% of the department I'm on is black. Both my partner and supervisor are black (not African american my partner's parents are from Barbados and dislikes the term)ChaoticKraus said:
In actuality in the united states the amount of african american officers is off. If it was representative of the us as a whole about 13% of all law enforcement should be black. As it stands (last I recall reading about it in an FOP newsletter) it's higher than that (I want to say it's like 19%).
So maybe it's just where you live?
The first statement about self racism. Yeah, I've seen more of that than anything else. It has to do with a 'if i can come from the same neighborhood as you and turn out fine why can't you? You're making us all look bad" thought process. I've seen all races do it though.
Yeah, i live in Sweden so that's definitely the case.ace_of_something said:
This also comes to mind
"And on the other hand, without a gun they can't get none
But don't let it be a black and a white one
Cuz they slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin out for the white cop"
From NWA's "Fuck Tha Police"
Oh and no offence to you, the law is obviously necessary to keep society intact and i'm sure there are plenty of good policemen. I just had some bad experiences. Then again i hang out in a couple of "high-risk" crowds so its kind of natural that they would be a bit suspicious.
Thats because they are responding to a call. Officers rarely put there lights on unless they want someone to pull over or they really need to haul ass.TheFlyingMango said:
Ah serendipity!JPArbiter said:
I was just watching a video on Youtube yesterday about what the police can and cannot do when they pull you over.Apparently the thing to do is if you have to get out of the car, lock the doors,. If the police officer asks to search the car tell them no, you are not giving permission to search the vehicle.
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On topic:
I'm from Ireland and generally view the police with mistrust.
Given the amount of corruption, brown envelope passing and the old boys network I'm under the impression that there are actually 2 laws, one for the rich,politicians etc and another for the rest.
I've called in an accident where a car overturned behind my residence, and it was 30 minutes before the police arrived, despite the fact that the local Garda station is less than a minute away at police speed!
Many years ago when I was a child my house was raided by police looking for guns, even at that age(I was perhaps 12 or 13), the search was pretty badly done, they never looked in the attic, nor under our beds, just stuck their head in the room.
Neither of those incidents, many years apart give me a good impression our police force.
However I think part of the reason for their perceived ineffectiveness is because many people don't report crimes because frankly it does not seem worth the hassle, as the police do not seem to care. The sort of crimes I'm talking about are people getting beaten up, and or robbed, burglaries, cars vandalised etc. Those who do report these incidents often have to wait for a long time for the police to actually turn up, and when they do beyond a cursory, "what happened here?", nothing official ever seems to come of it. And the police themselves often seem to resent being called to deal with such "petty" crimes, which is ironic given their apparent penchant for hassling "loiterers". The impression given is that they'd rather be in the station drinking tea and eating biccies!
They're a legitimate authority unless they've proven otherwise to me.
So yes, I respect them. That doesn't mean I aprove of all of what they do. But I respect them.
Do I trust them to keep me safe? Eh, not so much. That's why I plan to get a CC when I can.
So yes, I respect them. That doesn't mean I aprove of all of what they do. But I respect them.
Do I trust them to keep me safe? Eh, not so much. That's why I plan to get a CC when I can.
I'm sure you'll sing a different tune, dear reader, when you need them. Trust me on this one.ekkaman said:
I live in America. Yes and no. Yes we fear the consequences of the law(for the most part), if you don't believe me, just think about how many people hit the breaks when they see a cop car, or shove their cell phone down below the dashboard. As for trusted, yes. At least a fair degree, we always teach our kids to look for police officers if they're in trouble and the like, so they're trusted. However, we have one of the slowest response times of any country around, so calling up the police isn't all that reassuring.Dusty Fred said:
Then again, i would say that no matter where you are, Calling the cops=government sponsored dial-a-prayer
So I'm from Sparks Nevada which is basically a part of Reno. And no the cops are not as retarded as Reno 911 would have you believe. And I do respect the cops around here cause I know a few of them.
I was almost shot by some cops due to a little mishap involving airsoft guns though. Fun life lesson.
I was almost shot by some cops due to a little mishap involving airsoft guns though. Fun life lesson.
If I am in serious trouble I can always call 911 and expect backup within 5-10 minutes.
It's nice knowing that they are there, even if I never have to use them. I think a lot of the people on this thread like to hate on police because it is "cool" but the reality is it is just childish and hypocritical to hate on the police.
I would love to see half these haters get robbed or beaten, and then watch as they dial for the cops as quickly as their little fingers can handle.
It's nice knowing that they are there, even if I never have to use them. I think a lot of the people on this thread like to hate on police because it is "cool" but the reality is it is just childish and hypocritical to hate on the police.
I would love to see half these haters get robbed or beaten, and then watch as they dial for the cops as quickly as their little fingers can handle.
I live in Scotland, and I respect the police. I've never understood that "FUCK THA PO-LICE" sort of mentality that occurs a lot of the time. Yeah, there are asshole policemen, but the police do an incredibly important job within society.
Sweden here. I can't say I trust them too much. I mean I'll call them if I'm in trouble or if I see trouble but I won't count on them too much. Hell, a high ranking member of the police force was found with child porn on his computer. [pause for effect] ... YEAH.
Yes, although many of the cops in my town are absolute shit, I hold a large respect for the Police Force. So much so I earn insults by defending them.