Do you Think E.A is the worst company?
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EA is bad, and I'm not sure the people running it into the ground are qualified for or deserve any job at all, but unless you're a game studio that's been bought out by them, getting screwed over by EA is a choice, one that I recognized years ago and stopped making. Hell, as far back as 2006 I realized I should stop buying from them.
Many big software companies are pretty bad, even outside of gaming. Microsoft, Adobe, ESRI, and E-on all have CEOs who's decisions are unethical, and sometimes should be illegal.
But even they pale in comparison to some pharmaceutical companies and banks. The former incarnation of the Chiquita fruit company was even worse; they toppled the government of Guatemala and replaced it with one that was more friendly to their business interests - a government that went on to murder a few hundred or maybe a few thousand of its citizens.
EA hasn't killed anyone, and the only massive unemployment it has caused is from its own layoffs. People hate what they have direct experience with though, especially if it inconveniences them during what is supposed to be their leisure hours, so EA is going to be judged harshly.
They won't care though. If the execs wanted to help EA get better or fix its reputation, then instead of laying off the people who did their jobs well, they'd can the people who had no idea what they were doing - themselves. Riccitiello has, so that much is to his credit at least. I wouldn't expect many to follow though.
Many big software companies are pretty bad, even outside of gaming. Microsoft, Adobe, ESRI, and E-on all have CEOs who's decisions are unethical, and sometimes should be illegal.
But even they pale in comparison to some pharmaceutical companies and banks. The former incarnation of the Chiquita fruit company was even worse; they toppled the government of Guatemala and replaced it with one that was more friendly to their business interests - a government that went on to murder a few hundred or maybe a few thousand of its citizens.
EA hasn't killed anyone, and the only massive unemployment it has caused is from its own layoffs. People hate what they have direct experience with though, especially if it inconveniences them during what is supposed to be their leisure hours, so EA is going to be judged harshly.
They won't care though. If the execs wanted to help EA get better or fix its reputation, then instead of laying off the people who did their jobs well, they'd can the people who had no idea what they were doing - themselves. Riccitiello has, so that much is to his credit at least. I wouldn't expect many to follow though.
Here's the thing. When any of the other companies mess up, there are great legal repercussions. BOA has been in an out of court for years and BP had to pay around four billion dollars in damages.
EA on the other hand, can pull their shit and get away with it, which is enough reason for me to vote for them.
EA on the other hand, can pull their shit and get away with it, which is enough reason for me to vote for them.
Just the Smug arrogance of EA addressing the mistakes they made by basicly saying "Up your customers. We made a mistake but it's somehow YOUR fault."
Honestly they really don't know how to run a company with fresh licenses. Most of the companies they aquire vanish and die -Bullfrog- and to be honest the only thing they can do is remake slightly the Sims and Madden year to year.
Honestly they really don't know how to run a company with fresh licenses. Most of the companies they aquire vanish and die -Bullfrog- and to be honest the only thing they can do is remake slightly the Sims and Madden year to year.
I don't know about worst in America as I don't live there and don't deal with Ticketmaster, BoA, Verizon or the other despised corporate entities. Saying that, are they the worst in the games industry? Yes. Activision follows very closely in 2nd and there isn't really a third, but they'd be quite distant, whoever they are.
You have to consider how shitty a company is within the industry they are a part of, how shitty they are to their customers and how they treat their staff. You could consider financial results as well as a yardstick for "success". But EA fails in all regards. When they make shitty games that are fiscal failures for selling less than 5 million units, ban the very customers who buy them from playing them, refuse to sell their games on the most popular digital-distribution platform and so on, it's really little surprise.
Activision has pulled a lot of shit too, don't get me wrong....Diablo III always on, no private servers in their most popular online shooter, charging for/turning MP shooters into a "service", having the audacity to charge higher than full price for 3 year old games and £10 for a MAP PACK that used to be given away free. They're pretty fucking awful.
But microtransactions, online passes, Day 1/On-disc DLC, (as Jim pointed out) hiding online passes behind "limited edition" bullshit, withdrawing games from Steam, making all games boring set-piece, CoD style shooters, Origin spyware, banning players from single player games....it's too much. They do too many things wrong and instead of improving, get steadily and consistently worse. It's not a good sign.
You have to consider how shitty a company is within the industry they are a part of, how shitty they are to their customers and how they treat their staff. You could consider financial results as well as a yardstick for "success". But EA fails in all regards. When they make shitty games that are fiscal failures for selling less than 5 million units, ban the very customers who buy them from playing them, refuse to sell their games on the most popular digital-distribution platform and so on, it's really little surprise.
Activision has pulled a lot of shit too, don't get me wrong....Diablo III always on, no private servers in their most popular online shooter, charging for/turning MP shooters into a "service", having the audacity to charge higher than full price for 3 year old games and £10 for a MAP PACK that used to be given away free. They're pretty fucking awful.
But microtransactions, online passes, Day 1/On-disc DLC, (as Jim pointed out) hiding online passes behind "limited edition" bullshit, withdrawing games from Steam, making all games boring set-piece, CoD style shooters, Origin spyware, banning players from single player games....it's too much. They do too many things wrong and instead of improving, get steadily and consistently worse. It's not a good sign.
One of the reasons people gave for voting for EA was that they actually care, whereas Bank of America etc. would have simply ignored the price. This for itself says a lot i think. Now EA is far from perfect. Pretty far actually but i gotta admit that besides the SimCity fiasco (which got me a free game) they haven't really done anything to annoy me enough to justify me taking any action.
No.
Worst company belongs to the Federal Reserve, especially when the truth is there's nothing truly "Federal" about the Federal Reserve. Why point your finger at Bank of America when it's its daddy that's the main problem.
Worst company belongs to the Federal Reserve, especially when the truth is there's nothing truly "Federal" about the Federal Reserve. Why point your finger at Bank of America when it's its daddy that's the main problem.
This is a sentiment that I agree with. EA may treat it's customers and employees like shit, but I haven't heard of any reports of them actually KILLING anyone. Their business practices are shady as fuck, but don't result in the death of their customers, unlike some of the companies on that list.Bara_no_Hime said:
Now worst GAME company, on the other hand? Possibly. Their business practices are reminiscent of something you would see during the early 1900s, with things such as monopolization of certain sects of the industry.
I found out that chickafill funded a "charity" that directly sent representatives to uganda to support the "kill the gays" law via exodus international. True story, you can look it up. People have died because of that law and chickafill funded the trip that instated the law that killed them. So as long as thats true i doubt EA can hold a candle to it. Hell i dont think chickafil are even the worst. But they are worse than EA so its blatently obvious EA doesnt deserve that much hate. They didnt HURT anyone. Not really.
I would have to agree with the general consensus that EA are not the worst company in America, If you start widening the search to every company in America you can find some companies that have done worse things than EA. I would agree that they aren't the best gaming company in America, personally after playing Dead Space and Mass Effect I was in love with EA and then after there dreary follow ups I felt that they were just trying to squeeze more money out of me.
Now Don't take this the worn way I loved there games I own a cast majority of them but I have to say lately, and I hate to sound like I am old but "They don't make them like they use to". Its a phrase I use to much with EA games lately. They also have the power to get away with there mistakes which can infuriate people as I have been reading which makes us feel like we have been let down by them but it doesn't make them the worst.
As for the comparing them with other companies within America that's a whole different ball game, then you compare whether this bad thing is comparable to another bad thing done by a company that operates in a totally different section of business. You cant do that, it starts bringing with a lot of cannon fire from people who have lost their money, family, friends, lively hood due to other companies actions.
So in short, Are they the worst company in America? No, you can find a lot worse.
Now Don't take this the worn way I loved there games I own a cast majority of them but I have to say lately, and I hate to sound like I am old but "They don't make them like they use to". Its a phrase I use to much with EA games lately. They also have the power to get away with there mistakes which can infuriate people as I have been reading which makes us feel like we have been let down by them but it doesn't make them the worst.
As for the comparing them with other companies within America that's a whole different ball game, then you compare whether this bad thing is comparable to another bad thing done by a company that operates in a totally different section of business. You cant do that, it starts bringing with a lot of cannon fire from people who have lost their money, family, friends, lively hood due to other companies actions.
So in short, Are they the worst company in America? No, you can find a lot worse.
I wouldn't even agree that they're the worst company related to games. For them to even be in the running for worst company in the world, they would have to commit (and get caught) fairly egregious crimes against humanity.
The thing is people EA has become such an easy company for people to rip on and make fun of these days EA is the fat autistic kid who wears glasses that everyone picks on and I feel sorry for them as much as I dislike company's like capcom and Valve they don't ruin peoples lives or kill anyone, naming a games company the worst in America Is stupid and pathetic
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/04/09/ea-voted-worst-company-in-america-again/
This article provides a fantastic summary.
This article provides a fantastic summary.
They are the worst company in the gaming industry today. That's pretty much a fact at this point. The thing is this is an online poll and gamers by far have more web presence that BofA victims. You could say that gamers are 'always-on' which is sort of ironic in light of the SimCity fiasco.
No, if you go out and rob someone, someone'd be surprised if you were labeled "worst criminal ever", pretty much. I mean, "EA is shit" is more or less a defalut position around here these days, nobody's trying to paint them in a good light or anything. Merely saying there's no way they're "the worst".the hidden eagle said:
And what's wrong with that logic?
Well unless you believe that only the absolute worst need be condemned or acted against; and that saying "X is not the worst" somehow implies we're willing to just look the other way for X, that is.
Which is a rather weird belief to have, especially after reading the responses around here.
I never said EA wasn't a despicable entity for using its current business practices, but I would consider murder to be a worse crime than robbery. One is taking away money while the other is taking away someone's life. If you think your money is more valuable than your life, that you're an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to handle money in the first place. A company that steals is evil, but a company that kills is more so. If that logic doesn't make sense to you, you need to rethink your priorities.the hidden eagle said:
All major gaming developers are nobs, no one pissed off with how 2k is nickel and diming every one of their games? For example borderlands 2 no one is pissed off that even if you got the season pass not all dlc is free? Oh you got the season pass but want that new character? Tough because the new character is not dlc its BS of us wanting more fo your money. Yet fanbois go "OMG I WANT ETS NOAWS!" Also $5 for just having 11 more lvl ups? REALLY?
I blame the fanboys of willing putting up with this shit and paying for all these dlc and then have the nerve to whine about it. Act with your wallets but with hot air.
I blame the fanboys of willing putting up with this shit and paying for all these dlc and then have the nerve to whine about it. Act with your wallets but with hot air.
No one was flipping a shit over the award, all I did was explain why I agreed with Bara's notion. Also, the only reason I responded with a hostile tone was because you responded with one. You drop your patronizing attitude, and I'll drop mine, deal?the hidden eagle said:
Whining about it is the best way to get results. Not buying it just makes you another untapped market in their eyes.BakedZnake said:
Whining got the Mass Effect 3 ending 'fixed' (I know the ending is still shit), which is more than any online petition or 'voting with your wallet' ever did.