Do you think it's that unusual to have a lack of emotional response to some crushed ants?Johnny Novgorod said:
Do you think its wrong to step on bugs - why or why not?
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Of course it is, you sick and twisted monster! Why would you ruin a perfectly good pair of shoes like that?
If they're in your home then you should just do what I do and immediately get the vacuum cleaner and start whistling the Ghostbusters theme while you hoover them up.
If they're in your home then you should just do what I do and immediately get the vacuum cleaner and start whistling the Ghostbusters theme while you hoover them up.
I'm going with Lilani on this one. As a arachnophobe and an insectophobe who grew up living with cockroaches, the fuckers cannot die fast enough for me. If I could, I would go Ragnaros on their asses and take them all out in a flurry of flame. Fuck bugs and anything like them. There's a reason that I dread New Vegas' Cazadors and Queen Ant. 8(
Now I get the whole "taking time to kill a bug as slowly and / or painfully as possible" sadism being disturbing, as well as going out of one's way to kill a bug that's not anywhere near one's home and isn't being a potential threat. However, the idea that squashing or killing bugs in general is somehow bad.... well, it's laughable to me.
Now I get the whole "taking time to kill a bug as slowly and / or painfully as possible" sadism being disturbing, as well as going out of one's way to kill a bug that's not anywhere near one's home and isn't being a potential threat. However, the idea that squashing or killing bugs in general is somehow bad.... well, it's laughable to me.
Hah, those running shoes are already gunked up with mud from hundreds of miles of training. Another squashed bug ground into the treads won't matter. Wouldn't be close to being the only one.Baron von Blitztank said:
Also, vacuuming is kind of anticlimactic.
I'll squash bugs if they're bothering me, never thought or felt sad about their little bug families either. There's lots of snails in the garden too, and I literally kick them out. I guess they can take it, because I painted one one day and the next day there he was in the garden again. I'm worse than [historical figure], I suppose.
The only bugs that I will actively try and kill if I see them are roaches, specifically the big flying ones because I have a huge phobia of them and moths if they're especially large because I also have a phobia of them.
Most other bugs I'm okay with as long as they aren't touching me or in an inconvenient place. I actually love spiders and find them very interesting so I let them live as long as they aren't in the way, even if it's a dangerous one. I often have to kill bees/wasps though because they love to set up nests in a bush right next to my water hose holder and I don't want to get stung.
I really don't see the problem though.. they're just bugs. There are millions of them and as far as we know they aren't sentient or even feel pain.
Most other bugs I'm okay with as long as they aren't touching me or in an inconvenient place. I actually love spiders and find them very interesting so I let them live as long as they aren't in the way, even if it's a dangerous one. I often have to kill bees/wasps though because they love to set up nests in a bush right next to my water hose holder and I don't want to get stung.
I really don't see the problem though.. they're just bugs. There are millions of them and as far as we know they aren't sentient or even feel pain.
So, it's a matter of scale? 7+ billion people alive today, so the holocaust wasn't anything really. On the other had, if something 2000X bigger than you came along, are you ok with it stomping on you?jakeyjakey said:
Look, I am no "do no harm to animals" type, I'll hoover a spider, spray a wasp and poison ants if they are getting into my personal space ... I'm totally ok with eating a bacon sammich or chomping down on a steak but "if I saw an ant hill, I'd stomp on it just to see chaos" is like Cloverfield scaled down ... it's just a little messed up.
And remember, the urge to sing "the lion sleeps tonight" is just a whim away, a whim away, a whim away ...
(trying to lighten the mood)
I never kill insects unless they invade my home, in which case, i'm protecting my territory. Even than, many times I'll just grab the little thing and put it outside. (usually for insects and animals that I know only accidentally found their way in - but i don't treat invaders like roaches the same way, they get the boot)
That being said, I do think it's wrong. It's murder no matter the size of the life. I'm actually OK with killing to survive, such as farming and hunting for food, but I don't believe in killing for sport or for pleasure, or for convenience. My opinion on this can be summarized as only accepting it when it's necessary and never doing it when it can be avoided. Life eats life, that much is natural fact but there is no reason to torture or kill for sport. that is disgusting and I think it's below humans.
That being said, I do think it's wrong. It's murder no matter the size of the life. I'm actually OK with killing to survive, such as farming and hunting for food, but I don't believe in killing for sport or for pleasure, or for convenience. My opinion on this can be summarized as only accepting it when it's necessary and never doing it when it can be avoided. Life eats life, that much is natural fact but there is no reason to torture or kill for sport. that is disgusting and I think it's below humans.
I don't go out of my way to kill bugs if I don't have to. But I also don't have any problems with killing them if they're in my house and I don't want them there, or I feel they are a problem/danger. I don't take any enjoyment from it, I just do it quickly and be done with it.
Life kills life pretty much anywhere in the world/universe. That's just the reality of it. I don't feel like a monster because I killed something, especially when I know there are so freaking many bugs on this planet as to be insane. It's not like I'm going to endanger a species by squishing the wolf spider in my bathroom. That being said, I don't like killing things, and try to avoid doing it whenever possible. But I don't have a 100% no kill policy, it's a case by case basis.
Life kills life pretty much anywhere in the world/universe. That's just the reality of it. I don't feel like a monster because I killed something, especially when I know there are so freaking many bugs on this planet as to be insane. It's not like I'm going to endanger a species by squishing the wolf spider in my bathroom. That being said, I don't like killing things, and try to avoid doing it whenever possible. But I don't have a 100% no kill policy, it's a case by case basis.
Jesus Christ, now we must feel guilty for killing bugs?
Let me ask you something:
Does the Tiger feel bad when it attacking something?
Does any kind of animal/bug feel "guilty" for their actions?
I don't think so.
A don't f*cking tell me the animals don't do bad things....don't you dare.
Let me ask you something:
Does the Tiger feel bad when it attacking something?
Does any kind of animal/bug feel "guilty" for their actions?
I don't think so.
A don't f*cking tell me the animals don't do bad things....don't you dare.
Unless the bug is harming me in some way, then yes, I feel it is 100% wrong. I am a vegetarian for ethical reasons, so I try to avoid causing as much harm to animals as I possibly can. But make no mistake, if I were to have an infestation of some sort, they would all be as good as dead.
Tigers and other animals do not have the ability to think the way we do. We have the ability to contemplate our actions and decide whether or not what we are doing is right or wrong. Many animals act on instinct and instinct alone, but we don't. It is up to each of us to decide whether or not killing other animals is wrong, and there is no comparison needed to other animals because that just doesn't make sense considering their goals are simply survival and propagation of their species while we have evolved to want more than just that out of life.SweetShark said:
Is it wrong? Yes.
It's an unnecessary and intentional act of murder on another living being.
Does this stop me from doing it? No.
I'm afraid of spiders and my reaction to seeing one in my home is to kill. My reaction to a mosquito biting me is to kill it. I'll drive my car knowing full well that I'm killing many insects in doing so.
Will it build bad karma? I don't know but it should.
Just because it's not against the law and society as a whole doesn't frown upon killing insects doesn't make the act itself okay. Here's hoping that humanity is never seen as insects to an alien race
It's an unnecessary and intentional act of murder on another living being.
Does this stop me from doing it? No.
I'm afraid of spiders and my reaction to seeing one in my home is to kill. My reaction to a mosquito biting me is to kill it. I'll drive my car knowing full well that I'm killing many insects in doing so.
Will it build bad karma? I don't know but it should.
Just because it's not against the law and society as a whole doesn't frown upon killing insects doesn't make the act itself okay. Here's hoping that humanity is never seen as insects to an alien race
Well I don't particularly like that you killed it for no reason other than being bored and then got a kick out of it dying painfully and I'd be a wary of someone who goes around doing shit like pulling wings of moths but just killing them when their in your house or something no and you don't have to look out for them or feel sad for them.
Sorry, sorry, I need to be specific.Aleenik said:
I am not saying is correct to kill the animals/bugs just because we can.
But if a specific animal/bug cause to me fear or is ready to hurt me, well, sorry, but I will be this guy.
Also as I said, sometimes you see some things you question if it was just the instinct of the animal....
I remember a boy told me a story of two cats his family had. a female and a male.
At some point the female become pregnant and bring to the world cute little kittens. AAAaaaaaaa, so cute :3
The male killed them immediately, just like that. Reason? Wanted to f*ck again the female and the kitten annoyed him. That it. Not something complex. The male just wanted to f*ck!
So the male f*cked the female again and once again the female gave birth to other kittens. The male once again started eating them. I am serious, the male ate the kittens. However this time the boy happened to be here when he was younger and he start crying from the sight he saw. His grandfather heard the crying and he saw this as well.
What happened? He immediately took a shotgun and shoot the male cat f*cker and explode!!!!! "BOOOOOOOOOM" as he said to me.
For that reason also he hate cats.
I don't think it matters if you step on a bug, but it kind of bothers me when people go out of their way to kill insects that don't do any harm. I mean, how would you feel if you were just minding your own business and someone curb stomped you? Plus, I mean, it's kinda messed up that you get joy out of killing a living thing.
Accidentally stepping on bugs is pretty much unavoidable, but I try to not do it in general. I will avoid stepping on a bug if I see it while I'm walking outside. Inside is another matter as the bug is invading my territory and I would prefer it not do so. Some bugs I will catch and release outside in this case, but for the most part I just kill them as they would likely find their way back inside given the opportunity.
That being said, I tend to keep a live and let live mindset when I'm outdoors or not in my own home, as I would hate the idea of some creature bigger than me just snuffing the life out of me on a whim. And any time I do kill a bug I try to make it as instantaneous as I can so that it doesn't suffer. Just because they aren't sentient does not mean they don't feel pain, and I would prefer that their last moments of life were not spent in horrible agony.
That being said, I tend to keep a live and let live mindset when I'm outdoors or not in my own home, as I would hate the idea of some creature bigger than me just snuffing the life out of me on a whim. And any time I do kill a bug I try to make it as instantaneous as I can so that it doesn't suffer. Just because they aren't sentient does not mean they don't feel pain, and I would prefer that their last moments of life were not spent in horrible agony.
I heard that having an arachno- or insectophobia is the Mark of their respective deities: The Spider God and Ant Man, and thus instead of fearing them you should work towards conquering your phobia, after which Spider God or Ant Man will visit you and uplift you to a higher plane of existence. I'm an archnid whisperer myself, so I'm against killing or hurting them, but there was this one time Martin (my spider friend) brought his girlfriend home with him and they mated with Martin dying in the act. I was really angry at her, but she just said "your too late, it's all ogre" and gave birth to a bunch of little spiders and died. I had to abort the little guys. I'm sorry, Spider God. I truly am.
Just kidding. I deal with them like I deal with people: if they annoy me I'll k- Oh, wait. I think I know where this is going...
Okay, for real. There was a little news article maybe a week ago which told that hoovering up a spider is animal cruelty and a finable offense (though nobody will ever get caught, but in theory you should only instakill bugs). Spiders are cool so I try to spare them, but anything out for my blood dies. I mean, I see it that they're playing the Game of Life and simply risk playing on a hard difficulty (sucking my blood). Mosquitoes seem to have an infinite lives cheat every summer, so I try to slap-kill as many as I can. I didn't make the rules. Sometimes with mosquitoes and horse-flies I try to catch them straight from flight and the tear their heads off. I mean, you gotta have different death animations. Ants are fine, but inside houses I don't use the present tense when talking about them. I've had to deal with so many annoying ant colonies inside the floors and walls that I've developed creative ways of killing them. For example rolling them over (little ants only) with an A-size battery is super effective (the colony itself must be poisoned, but what the heck). But y'know, butterflies are often really pretty and their larvae are cute and pudgy and fuzzy. I have a picture of one as my phone background too. Then there are some larvae that eat ALL THE LEAVES. They die.
Just kidding. I deal with them like I deal with people: if they annoy me I'll k- Oh, wait. I think I know where this is going...
Okay, for real. There was a little news article maybe a week ago which told that hoovering up a spider is animal cruelty and a finable offense (though nobody will ever get caught, but in theory you should only instakill bugs). Spiders are cool so I try to spare them, but anything out for my blood dies. I mean, I see it that they're playing the Game of Life and simply risk playing on a hard difficulty (sucking my blood). Mosquitoes seem to have an infinite lives cheat every summer, so I try to slap-kill as many as I can. I didn't make the rules. Sometimes with mosquitoes and horse-flies I try to catch them straight from flight and the tear their heads off. I mean, you gotta have different death animations. Ants are fine, but inside houses I don't use the present tense when talking about them. I've had to deal with so many annoying ant colonies inside the floors and walls that I've developed creative ways of killing them. For example rolling them over (little ants only) with an A-size battery is super effective (the colony itself must be poisoned, but what the heck). But y'know, butterflies are often really pretty and their larvae are cute and pudgy and fuzzy. I have a picture of one as my phone background too. Then there are some larvae that eat ALL THE LEAVES. They die.