Do you think you should be allowed to kill kids in games?
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I like the option to kill children in games, as I like to do a good and a evil run of most games that give me the option, and on the evil run I tend to just kill everyone tht slightly annoys me, and those kids... yeah, it may also help that I don't place a kid's life that much higher than adult's so I don't see a problem in killing them if I'm already killing adults on a whim.
Yes. Having all children as gods is really, really annoying. Now that I think of it, Babette in Skyrim must be the ultimate assassin: Can't be killed or sent to jail (and probably never incur a bounty), and will probably never die. Makes having the player be the top assassin kind of weird.
Well, yes, as a matter of fact. It's not that I hate them, or that I'm a sick bastard with gore fantasies, it's just that The game feels more realistic with it (ooh, a gamer who thinks realism is a make or brake factor, that's unheard of), and a helluva lot more immersive. Allow me to explain, take for example, oh, I don't know Skyrim(!).
I had just come back from a dungeon raid, butchering bandits, orcs, monsters, a motherf*****g dragon(!) and several packs of wolves, so I can come back home to Riverwood, my insides held together with prayers and spit, only for some snot-nosed punk to walk up to my face and say, "You're new around here so I'll go easy on ya, but don't get on my bad side.". A stale smile from my part with a gentle pat on the child's shoulder I asked, "'scuse me?", and the little runt turns to the elven prince, 500 years old vampire lord, Dragonborn, Archmage and hero of the oblivion crisis, and he says "I'm not afraid of you, even if you are my elder.". And when I give little brat a gentle bonk across the bonce because his parents sure as hell aren't gonna teach him some proper manners, I get shot, stabbed pummeled and trampled by the entire f*****g town! So after that I spent a few minutes saving and reloading so that I could continually wail on him and hurl fire and lightning in his face to lose the stress.
But don't get me wrong, it's not that I want to spend my idle time killing eight year olds and jack off to it like some people are bound to do, it's just that I just can't feel very immersed in a game where I can slaughter the entire town guard of Riften, kill two Giants at the same time without a hitch, hunt trolls and dragons for fun, and then can't scrape the skin of a seven year old girl. And the game gains a lot more life if I accidentally kill a little boy or girl when fending off a bandit raid and can spend a few in-game days grieving.
I had just come back from a dungeon raid, butchering bandits, orcs, monsters, a motherf*****g dragon(!) and several packs of wolves, so I can come back home to Riverwood, my insides held together with prayers and spit, only for some snot-nosed punk to walk up to my face and say, "You're new around here so I'll go easy on ya, but don't get on my bad side.". A stale smile from my part with a gentle pat on the child's shoulder I asked, "'scuse me?", and the little runt turns to the elven prince, 500 years old vampire lord, Dragonborn, Archmage and hero of the oblivion crisis, and he says "I'm not afraid of you, even if you are my elder.". And when I give little brat a gentle bonk across the bonce because his parents sure as hell aren't gonna teach him some proper manners, I get shot, stabbed pummeled and trampled by the entire f*****g town! So after that I spent a few minutes saving and reloading so that I could continually wail on him and hurl fire and lightning in his face to lose the stress.
But don't get me wrong, it's not that I want to spend my idle time killing eight year olds and jack off to it like some people are bound to do, it's just that I just can't feel very immersed in a game where I can slaughter the entire town guard of Riften, kill two Giants at the same time without a hitch, hunt trolls and dragons for fun, and then can't scrape the skin of a seven year old girl. And the game gains a lot more life if I accidentally kill a little boy or girl when fending off a bandit raid and can spend a few in-game days grieving.
No I don't, at least not in the context that I know most of you are thinking (*cough*Skyrim*cough*).
Because, lets be honest here, most of you are stating reasons such as "But they annoy me!" which is a really good way to cement the view that gamers really are just a bunch of socially awkward angsty teens with a latent moniachal god complex.
Seriously, kids dying in fiction is fine when it contextually makes sense, but you all demanding that they do when it is not in fitting with the tone of the setting (Seriously, elder scrolls games are pretty much as wacky fantasy as it gets, when was the last time you saw a child get killed by the protagonist for no really compelling reason in one of those?) for the reason that they annoy with (shock horror!) childish comments is simply baffling.
Jeez guys, it's not like there isn't enough things to tenderize with your enchanted monster mallet, get out of whiterun and go adventure before I ram an arrow considerably higher than your knee.
Oh, and for all the Immersion breaking arguments? They are more reasonable when genuine and not simply a justification, but is the one time (Seriously, I haven't once seen a kid even in the same loading grid as a dragon, and iv'e got over 130 hours played) a child is not eaten by a dragon worth the media shit storm it would have generated had the child become a dragons brunch?
Because, lets be honest here, most of you are stating reasons such as "But they annoy me!" which is a really good way to cement the view that gamers really are just a bunch of socially awkward angsty teens with a latent moniachal god complex.
Seriously, kids dying in fiction is fine when it contextually makes sense, but you all demanding that they do when it is not in fitting with the tone of the setting (Seriously, elder scrolls games are pretty much as wacky fantasy as it gets, when was the last time you saw a child get killed by the protagonist for no really compelling reason in one of those?) for the reason that they annoy with (shock horror!) childish comments is simply baffling.
Jeez guys, it's not like there isn't enough things to tenderize with your enchanted monster mallet, get out of whiterun and go adventure before I ram an arrow considerably higher than your knee.
Oh, and for all the Immersion breaking arguments? They are more reasonable when genuine and not simply a justification, but is the one time (Seriously, I haven't once seen a kid even in the same loading grid as a dragon, and iv'e got over 130 hours played) a child is not eaten by a dragon worth the media shit storm it would have generated had the child become a dragons brunch?
Depends on the game. Cooking mama? No. Skyrim? Maybe yes? I generally think in open world RPGs you should be alowed to kill kids. I would hope it got you punished (I think Falout 2 had a child killer perk which made everyone hate you, apart from evil guys. Like being a slaver).
Come to think of it, many people's player character seems to be like fully-grown, lethal children as well. Think of it, the moment an NPC calls you on something or is being mildly rude, then there's a temper-tantrum and the careless NPC is obliterated.
Just an observation, and that could do for a decent fantasy-story, told from the point of view from the NPCs.
Just an observation, and that could do for a decent fantasy-story, told from the point of view from the NPCs.
The modders from Fallout 3 agree with you (those little bastards at Little Lamplight must die!)
Technically they're polygons, but who cares? They're still bloody annoying.lordlillen said:
Why would you want to kill kids in a game? I guess they should be killable like every other animal/person in the game. Skyrim had kids but i never noticed them at all, they were background. But the ones in Fallout 3 deserved to be killed.....you all know what I mean. They insulted you and could kill you with there crappy guns and you couldn't do anything. Where's the discipline? Them kids r4eally pissed me off.
I can't believe some people think there is a moral issue here. We are arguing over whether or not you should be able kill people that don't exist. The only reason you should have moral problems with killing imaginary people is that you have trouble telling them apart from real people, and in that case seek out a therapist.