DOAX3 officially not being localized for the west

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Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
 

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I said a little bit in the last thread but I would just like to add.
[HEADING=1]Why do they care![/HEADING]

I just don't know why they would give a shit. Team ninja has never cared about modesty before so why now?

it's not like it's going to damage their reputation. when you bring up team ninja the first two things people think about are ninja gaiden and then lots of boobs. So their reputation is already soured. Why should they care about the backlash? At best most people would go "Oh You".
Personally I think this is all a very clever publicity stunt. I suspect this story will do the rounds on the gaming websites then a petition to bring it over will appear and then THAT will do the rounds on the gaming websites. Then Team Ninja will be like "oh we had NO idea it was so popular, here is our fully priced western release with special editions at way more cost than we would have sold it normally".


But then I'm pretty cynical.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
Then where did SJWs losing their heads come into play?
 

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erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
Then where did SJWs losing their heads come into play?
When they threatened PA. PA has now increased their followers by 33% or something because people have lost their heads over them parroting Tecmo's announcement.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
Then where did SJWs losing their heads come into play?
When they threatened PA. PA has now increased their followers by 33% or something because people have lost their heads over them parroting Tecmo's announcement.
Begging your pardon, but that comment came off a lot like throwing a temper tantrum over SJWs, so it seems a lot like they were spitting SJWs long before anything else happened.
 

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erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
Then where did SJWs losing their heads come into play?
When they threatened PA. PA has now increased their followers by 33% or something because people have lost their heads over them parroting Tecmo's announcement.
Begging your pardon, but that comment came off a lot like throwing a temper tantrum over SJWs, so it seems a lot like they were spitting SJWs long before anything else happened.
If it were, it just proved Tecmo's point. There's good reason to avoid the west if that's how they act. If you want to say using the phrase "SJW" is the first shot, then the response was disproportionate.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
Then where did SJWs losing their heads come into play?
When they threatened PA. PA has now increased their followers by 33% or something because people have lost their heads over them parroting Tecmo's announcement.
Begging your pardon, but that comment came off a lot like throwing a temper tantrum over SJWs, so it seems a lot like they were spitting SJWs long before anything else happened.
If it were, it just proved Tecmo's point. There's good reason to avoid the west if that's how they act. If you want to say using the phrase "SJW" is the first shot, then the response was disproportionate.
I don't follow. They shouldn't follow the west if people react to them throwing temper tantrums? And most of the people here are just saying they don't want to do business with them. Are a few outlines really worth generalizing the entire west?

Also SJW has, and always will be, a poorly defined term that always seems to be used along the lines of "You disagree with me and you should be ashamed."
 

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Wait, that's what "threatening" counts as now?
Now? Given the number of times it's been used, I'm surprised someone hasn't used "First They Came" unironically.
Scarim Coral said:
While I get the whole shitstorm for it but is it a total lost for it to not getting localized? Last time I played (first game) the actually volleyball game itself was bad due to its wokey camera (Gamecube Beachspiker was a better volleyball game than DOAX).
Given the sales of the last game, I'm betting more people are outraged this isn't being ported than would actually buy it.
 

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erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
Then where did SJWs losing their heads come into play?
When they threatened PA. PA has now increased their followers by 33% or something because people have lost their heads over them parroting Tecmo's announcement.
Begging your pardon, but that comment came off a lot like throwing a temper tantrum over SJWs, so it seems a lot like they were spitting SJWs long before anything else happened.
If it were, it just proved Tecmo's point. There's good reason to avoid the west if that's how they act. If you want to say using the phrase "SJW" is the first shot, then the response was disproportionate.
I don't follow. They shouldn't follow the west if people react to them throwing temper tantrums? And most of the people here are just saying they don't want to do business with them. Are a few outlines really worth generalizing the entire west?

Also SJW has, and always will be, a poorly defined term that always seems to be used along the lines of "You disagree with me and you should be ashamed."
Well as the last debacle with Kotaku showed, a lot of developers don't like the journalism that comes out here. Combine that with the kind of masses that call for account deletions and comparisons to white supremacists ( http://i.imgur.com/SS5ZCzf.png ) and it's hard to fault them.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
Then where did SJWs losing their heads come into play?
When they threatened PA. PA has now increased their followers by 33% or something because people have lost their heads over them parroting Tecmo's announcement.
Begging your pardon, but that comment came off a lot like throwing a temper tantrum over SJWs, so it seems a lot like they were spitting SJWs long before anything else happened.
If it were, it just proved Tecmo's point. There's good reason to avoid the west if that's how they act. If you want to say using the phrase "SJW" is the first shot, then the response was disproportionate.
I don't follow. They shouldn't follow the west if people react to them throwing temper tantrums? And most of the people here are just saying they don't want to do business with them. Are a few outlines really worth generalizing the entire west?

Also SJW has, and always will be, a poorly defined term that always seems to be used along the lines of "You disagree with me and you should be ashamed."
Well as the last debacle with Kotaku showed, a lot of developers don't like the journalism that comes out here. Combine that with the kind of masses that call for account deletions and comparisons to white supremacists ( http://i.imgur.com/SS5ZCzf.png ) and it's hard to fault them.
What debacle? Wait, I thought just a couple of people called for account deletion, all of a sudden that's the masses now? And if them not liking western journalism is so much of a deal breaker that they don't want to port games...ok? What am I supposed to beg for them to come back?

I'm sorry, who is that person and why should I care what she thinks? Look hard enough and you can find any nutjobs who agree with a side you disagree with. I once saw a GG supporter say, with no irony "We need to shut these SJWs up before they censor us all."
 

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erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
Fair enough, but even getting back to your original point, the one I replied to, it still sounds like the devs were the ones that made the first comment, making your claim of these people spiting "SJWs" for losing their heads over games a little unfounded.
Well the original comment was that they wanted to avoid controversy, which people were okay with (apart from the people assuming they were lying here and elsewhere). It didn't become a spite thing until PA made their comment and got threatened over it.
Then where did SJWs losing their heads come into play?
When they threatened PA. PA has now increased their followers by 33% or something because people have lost their heads over them parroting Tecmo's announcement.
Begging your pardon, but that comment came off a lot like throwing a temper tantrum over SJWs, so it seems a lot like they were spitting SJWs long before anything else happened.
If it were, it just proved Tecmo's point. There's good reason to avoid the west if that's how they act. If you want to say using the phrase "SJW" is the first shot, then the response was disproportionate.
I don't follow. They shouldn't follow the west if people react to them throwing temper tantrums? And most of the people here are just saying they don't want to do business with them. Are a few outlines really worth generalizing the entire west?

Also SJW has, and always will be, a poorly defined term that always seems to be used along the lines of "You disagree with me and you should be ashamed."
Well as the last debacle with Kotaku showed, a lot of developers don't like the journalism that comes out here. Combine that with the kind of masses that call for account deletions and comparisons to white supremacists ( http://i.imgur.com/SS5ZCzf.png ) and it's hard to fault them.
What debacle? Wait, I thought just a couple of people called for account deletion, all of a sudden that's the masses now? And if them not liking western journalism is so much of a deal breaker that they don't want to port games...ok? What am I supposed to beg for them to come back?

I'm sorry, who is that person and why should I care what she thinks? Look hard enough and you can find any nutjobs who agree with a side you disagree with. I once saw a GG supporter say, with no irony "We need to shut these SJWs up before they censor us all."
When Kotaku talked about Bethesda and Ubisoft not talking to them and several developers showed up to talk about Kotaku's reporting.

Wow you got defensive. You don't have to do anything, I'm just stating what is. Tecmo's doesn't want to deal with those people so they aren't. PA doesn't care so they got the backlash instead.
 

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Ok, how many of those developers were eastern?

Defensive? No it's an honest question, who IS this person? The activity on her posts isn't even in triple digits. If these people are the types that can influence the actions of a company, the types where you have to actively go looking for them, then companies are giving them a lot of power. If they're ok with that, hey, more power to them.
 

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Ok, how many of those developers were eastern?

Defensive? No it's an honest question, who IS this person? The activity on her posts isn't even in triple digits. If these people are the types that can influence the actions of a company, the types where you have to actively go looking for them, then companies are giving them a lot of power. If they're ok with that, hey, more power to them.
What does that matter? In any case I remember one in particular that was miffed about a white guy putting words in his mouth and trying to explain the Japanese perspective to him.

How do you know she's a she?
 

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Ok, how many of those developers were eastern?

Defensive? No it's an honest question, who IS this person? The activity on her posts isn't even in triple digits. If these people are the types that can influence the actions of a company, the types where you have to actively go looking for them, then companies are giving them a lot of power. If they're ok with that, hey, more power to them.
What does that matter? In any case I remember one in particular that was miffed about a white guy putting words in his mouth and trying to explain the Japanese perspective to him.

How do you know she's a she?
Because when you're saying Japanese developers are not exporting games because of western journalism, I want to know how wide spread it is and see if it's more than just one or two people.

Because I googled her. And that's pretty much all that came up. Again, who is she and why does what she says have any impact whatsoever? And if devs are really giving people like her the power to influence their decisions, that is a disproportionate balance of power. If they're ok with that, then fine.
 

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Given the sales of the last game, I'm betting more people are outraged this isn't being ported than would actually buy it.
Now let's be fair: XBV2 sold better in the US than in Japan.

I think that probably has more to do with it being an Xbox 360 exclusive, but it should be noted. Especially because it sold like ass in the US. A case of "better" not equalling "good". :D

I'm certain it's the SJWs though. How cold I possibly get this multi-language menued, region free game now?
 

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Ok, how many of those developers were eastern?

Defensive? No it's an honest question, who IS this person? The activity on her posts isn't even in triple digits. If these people are the types that can influence the actions of a company, the types where you have to actively go looking for them, then companies are giving them a lot of power. If they're ok with that, hey, more power to them.
What does that matter? In any case I remember one in particular that was miffed about a white guy putting words in his mouth and trying to explain the Japanese perspective to him.

How do you know she's a she?
Because when you're saying Japanese developers are not exporting games because of western journalism, I want to know how wide spread it is and see if it's more than just one or two people.

Because I googled her. And that's pretty much all that came up. Again, who is she and why does what she says have any impact whatsoever? And if devs are really giving people like her the power to influence their decisions, that is a disproportionate balance of power. If they're ok with that, then fine.
Are you going to say Kotaku might have a good reputation elsewhere? Apparently western sensitivity has made it east because Tecmo gave it as their reason and an HK company knows what SJWs are.

He's part of the herd with followers willing to jump on people. He's the one calling Asians white supremacists. I just gave an example to add to the pile to show that it isn't just a couple of isolated cases.
 

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I want to know what they said because you listing Kotaku as a reason why Japanese developers as a whole don't want to export to the west is a rather large statement that needs some backing up. Yeah, and they're one isolated example. I need more to go on if we're going to be cataloging statements.

She. I looked it up and it's a she. Exactly this is a pretty isolated example, there aren't exactly massive trends saying Japanese developers are white supremacists.
 

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I want to know what they said because you listing Kotaku as a reason why Japanese developers as a whole don't want to export to the west is a rather large statement that needs some backing up. Yeah, and they're one isolated example. I need more to go on if we're going to be cataloging statements.

She. I looked it up and it's a she. Exactly this is a pretty isolated example, there aren't exactly massive trends saying Japanese developers are white supremacists.
I believe my statement is backed up by the statement Tecmo gave already. If you want to know why they came to that conclusion, I suppose I could go collect links that are already on this website, but you'll have to give me a bit because I'm not doing it from my phone.

HE has a wife who referred to HIM as a HE in her ama. Also his gender is on his twitter account. Which goes to show how much research you've put in.
 

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erttheking said:
crimson5pheonix said:
I want to know what they said because you listing Kotaku as a reason why Japanese developers as a whole don't want to export to the west is a rather large statement that needs some backing up. Yeah, and they're one isolated example. I need more to go on if we're going to be cataloging statements.

She. I looked it up and it's a she. Exactly this is a pretty isolated example, there aren't exactly massive trends saying Japanese developers are white supremacists.
I believe my statement is backed up by the statement Tecmo gave already. If you want to know why they came to that conclusion, I suppose I could go collect links that are already on this website, but you'll have to give me a bit because I'm not doing it from my phone.

HE has a wife who referred to HIM as a HE in her ama. Also his gender is on his twitter account. Which goes to show how much research you've put in.
I need more to go on that these people who I only know exist because of the shitstorm they brewed up if you're going to be making sweeping statements about Japanese developers not exporting games. These people don't speak for Japanese developers as a whole.

Pardon me, I made a mistake. I misread my google search.