DOAX3 officially not being localized for the west

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Sounds to me like a company deciding that the US market for the game is too small to make the localization profitable. Then someone makes a BS excuse so the fans are upset at someone else.

Hmmm... What evidence do you have of this?

So someone blames feminist for a game not coming out with no evidence and you believe it. Someone points out that that idea seems weak and you demand evidence.

OT: Meh. Those games never seemed to be any more than masturbation fodder. We will no longer have these deep engaging games to keep us entertained.

While they didn't blame "feminists" by name, the actual creator of this game specified that it is due to "not wanting to have talks about women's representation in videogames" that they are not going to release it. Now, who might it be that would initiate such a discussion, hmm?

I think this serves as sufficient "evidence" (directly from the horse's mouth; the official developers of the game) for this blaming.

 

[nomotog_v1legacy]

Honestly I can kind of see this. I mean if you release a game like this, your going to be answering questions about the treatment of women in games and what kind of message your new bikini malfunction mechanic sends. (Here is a odd thought, which would be worse, adding a system where the girl's bikini falls off by accident, or a system where they take it off?) Those are hard questions to answer. Double through a translator. The problem is this plan just won't work. I mean by now there is a near grantee that they are going to have to talk about the treatment of women in games.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

250,000 copies? Total world-wide?

Two of those were mine. No, I didn't wear out the disc. I dropped the first and it got scratched.

It is very hard to find jet ski games.

Hey, I don't blame you. If reviews talked up the mini-games in this one, I'd have considered it.

Well, before their PR stunt, anyway. Beach volleyball is a hell of a niche sport for games.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Honestly I can kind of see this. I mean if you release a game like this, your going to be answering questions about the treatment of women in games and what kind of message your new bikini malfunction mechanic sends. (Here is a odd thought, which would be worse, adding a system where the girl's bikini falls off by accident, or a system where they take it off?) Those are hard questions to answer. Double through a translator. The problem is this plan just won't work. I mean by now there is a near grantee that they are going to have to talk about the treatment of women in games.

That's their new mechanic? I'd thought that was a joke.

At this point Xtreme 4 will just be an H-game. Not that that's a bad thing, at least they'd be honest about it.

 

[nomotog_v1legacy]

Honestly I can kind of see this. I mean if you release a game like this, your going to be answering questions about the treatment of women in games and what kind of message your new bikini malfunction mechanic sends. (Here is a odd thought, which would be worse, adding a system where the girl's bikini falls off by accident, or a system where they take it off?) Those are hard questions to answer. Double through a translator. The problem is this plan just won't work. I mean by now there is a near grantee that they are going to have to talk about the treatment of women in games.

That's their new mechanic? I'd thought that was a joke.

At this point Xtreme 4 will just be an H-game. Not that that's a bad thing, at least they'd be honest about it.

Let me double check that. I read it someplace, but it could have been a joke that tricked me.

Edit Ok it is real and ps4 exclusive.

Yesterday Koei Tecmo revealed a new feature of Dead or Alive Xtreme 3, with the heroines? bikinis that will ?malfunction? under strenuous activity, revealing some more skin by shifting out of place or due to straps suddenly pulling free.

So ya think about that for a bit.

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

Honestly I can kind of see this. I mean if you release a game like this, your going to be answering questions about the treatment of women in games and what kind of message your new bikini malfunction mechanic sends. (Here is a odd thought, which would be worse, adding a system where the girl's bikini falls off by accident, or a system where they take it off?) Those are hard questions to answer. Double through a translator. The problem is this plan just won't work. I mean by now there is a near grantee that they are going to have to talk about the treatment of women in games.

That's their new mechanic? I'd thought that was a joke.

At this point Xtreme 4 will just be an H-game. Not that that's a bad thing, at least they'd be honest about it.

Console and handheld gaming in Japan doesnt allow frontal nudity or depiction of actual sex like GTAV, Witcher, The Order 1886 or Thi4f. If it ever have nudity expect bars of censorship light

 

[nomotog_v1legacy]

Honestly I can kind of see this. I mean if you release a game like this, your going to be answering questions about the treatment of women in games and what kind of message your new bikini malfunction mechanic sends. (Here is a odd thought, which would be worse, adding a system where the girl's bikini falls off by accident, or a system where they take it off?) Those are hard questions to answer. Double through a translator. The problem is this plan just won't work. I mean by now there is a near grantee that they are going to have to talk about the treatment of women in games.

That's their new mechanic? I'd thought that was a joke.

At this point Xtreme 4 will just be an H-game. Not that that's a bad thing, at least they'd be honest about it.

Console and handheld gaming in Japan doesnt allow frontal nudity or depiction of actual sex like GTAV, Witcher, The Order 1886 or Thi4f. If it ever have nudity expect bars of censorship light

That is a little... well I don't have a word to describe it. Well japan seems to be at the forefront of titillation, they seem to be kind of repressed when it comes to actual sex. (Not too dissimilar to america I'll add.)

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

They don't allow things to be shown which creative people use to make really really pervy stuff that use loopholes to bypass these bans. It's kinda how tentacle porn became a thing. They couldn't show penises so they had to come up with something else that looked like that and there was this one classic painting of the fisherman's wife so it was all done and done. This repression in the "mainstream" culture leads the way to a lot of very...interesting fetishes that follow.

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

Honestly I can kind of see this. I mean if you release a game like this, your going to be answering questions about the treatment of women in games and what kind of message your new bikini malfunction mechanic sends. (Here is a odd thought, which would be worse, adding a system where the girl's bikini falls off by accident, or a system where they take it off?) Those are hard questions to answer. Double through a translator. The problem is this plan just won't work. I mean by now there is a near grantee that they are going to have to talk about the treatment of women in games.

That's their new mechanic? I'd thought that was a joke.

At this point Xtreme 4 will just be an H-game. Not that that's a bad thing, at least they'd be honest about it.

Console and handheld gaming in Japan doesnt allow frontal nudity or depiction of actual sex like GTAV, Witcher, The Order 1886 or Thi4f. If it ever have nudity expect bars of censorship light

That is a little... well I don't have a word to describe it. Well japan seems to be at the forefront of titillation, they seem to be kind of repressed when it comes to actual sex. (Not too dissimilar to america I'll add.)

Yeah. If Rockstar decides to do something like this it would have full frontal nudity, softcore porn scenes and witty satire as dressing

And oh LA Noire as well has nudity

 

[Something Amyss]

While they didn't blame "feminists" by name, the actual creator of this game specified that it is due to "not wanting to have talks about women's representation in videogames" that they are not going to release it.

No, a single "community manager" made that statement. If such things are evidence, then I demand a refund because Warriors Orochi 3 doesn't have English voice actors.

Honestly I can kind of see this. I mean if you release a game like this, your going to be answering questions about the treatment of women in games and what kind of message your new bikini malfunction mechanic sends. (Here is a odd thought, which would be worse, adding a system where the girl's bikini falls off by accident, or a system where they take it off?) Those are hard questions to answer. Double through a translator. The problem is this plan just won't work. I mean by now there is a near grantee that they are going to have to talk about the treatment of women in games.

It makes sense, but it also makes sense that it simply isn't worth the effort to bring over. I mean, that's kind of the thing: this was announced MONTHS ago and almost nobody gave a crap. In fact, that was kind of the analysis at the time.

 

[nomotog_v1legacy]

While they didn't blame "feminists" by name, the actual creator of this game specified that it is due to "not wanting to have talks about women's representation in videogames" that they are not going to release it.

No, a single "community manager" made that statement. If such things are evidence, then I demand a refund because Warriors Orochi 3 doesn't have English voice actors.

Honestly I can kind of see this. I mean if you release a game like this, your going to be answering questions about the treatment of women in games and what kind of message your new bikini malfunction mechanic sends. (Here is a odd thought, which would be worse, adding a system where the girl's bikini falls off by accident, or a system where they take it off?) Those are hard questions to answer. Double through a translator. The problem is this plan just won't work. I mean by now there is a near grantee that they are going to have to talk about the treatment of women in games.

It makes sense, but it also makes sense that it simply isn't worth the effort to bring over. I mean, that's kind of the thing: this was announced MONTHS ago and almost nobody gave a crap. In fact, that was kind of the analysis at the time.

Both make sense, but you guess requires them to be llieing about their reasoning. (or to simply be mis quoted.) I am just assuming they are being honest.

 

[Something Amyss]

Both make sense, but you guess requires them to be llieing about their reasoning. (or to simply be mis quoted.) I am just assuming they are being honest.

Well, no, it really doesn't and I just addressed that.

Hell, we can assume that this is 100% of the man's actual opinion, and even the original article (which misrepresents things) indicates that this may not be the company's line.

Unfortunately, people seem to have read that this was about the treatment of women and then checked out entirely. From histrionic claims of "attacks": and censorship from people who have engaged in the same tactics to people who seem to have not read the articles or understood them or something to that effect to people who believe things were said which were not, to people just plain being uninformed.

But *he* doesn't have to be lying.

We've actually been there and done that in the gaming world before.

 

[deadish]

US market for the game is too small to make the localization profitable

I never thought I would ever see "US market" and "too small" in the same sentence.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

While they didn't blame "feminists" by name, the actual creator of this game specified that it is due to "not wanting to have talks about women's representation in videogames" that they are not going to release it.

No, a single "community manager" made that statement. If such things are evidence, then I demand a refund because Warriors Orochi 3 doesn't have English voice actors.

It was later corroborated by the official koei US twitter.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

I never thought I would ever see "US market" and "too small" in the same sentence.

The US market is enormous. The US market for this title is extremely small.

Frankly the global market for the title is so small it's a wonder they're bothering to make one at all. Games that sell ten to twenty times as many copies are viewed as crashing disappointments.

 

[xaszatm]

You know, wouldn't the more likely reason be that this game only sold 245k worldwide?

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

You know, wouldn't the more likely reason be that this game only sold 245k worldwide?

No, cause then they wouldn't have made it at all since the west bought the lion's share of these 245k games. The fact that they made the game at all by definition necessitates it being viable both in the west and in Japan.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

You know, wouldn't the more likely reason be that this game only sold 245k worldwide?

No, cause then they wouldn't have made it at all since the west bought the lion's share of these 245k games. The fact that they made the game at all by definition necessitates it being viable both in the west and in Japan.

People make games that fail all the time. Making a thing doesn't mean that's it's viable, just that some people think or hope it's going to be viable.

Plus, don't discount that the lion's share of the previous games being sold in the west might have more to do with the Xbox and Xbox 360 cratering in Japan.

 

[xaszatm]

You know, wouldn't the more likely reason be that this game only sold 245k worldwide?

No, cause then they wouldn't have made it at all since the west bought the lion's share of these 245k games. The fact that they made the game at all by definition necessitates it being viable both in the west and in Japan.

People make games that fail all the time. Making a thing doesn't mean that's it's viable, just that some people think or hope it's going to be viable.

Plus, don't discount that the lion's share of the previous games being sold in the west might have more to do with the Xbox and Xbox 360 cratering in Japan.

Plus, if companies only did things because it had to be vialbe, Platinum Games would unfortunately be out of a job.

 

[Paragon Fury]

I never thought I would ever see "US market" and "too small" in the same sentence.

The US market is enormous. The US market for this title is extremely small.

Frankly the global market for the title is so small it's a wonder they're bothering to make one at all. Games that sell ten to twenty times as many copies are viewed as crashing disappointments.

Because they used to not give a single fuck, and knew that they could easily make the game and people that enjoyed DoA and the girls would get some enjoyment out of it and that was enough for them.

SJWs and new feminism have, as they said on their own Facebook and Twitter, essentially put a stop to that because the risks from the shitstorms SJWs and new feminism kick up would decimate them and thus they won't do it.