Zhukov said:
No, because that wasn't an origin story.
Well, that's a fair bit narrower scope than I took it for.
Zhukov said:
It is an awful lot like Iron Man and Thor.
Okay. Sure. I'm a bit sick of people claiming that all Marvel movies are the same, so maybe I jumped the gun a bit there, but I think your post could've been a lot clearer that they're using ONE OF the formulas they've used before.
Zhukov said:
It's also pretty damn similar to Ant Man and Peter Quill's story in Guardians. Just need to swap out "arrogant" for "irresponsible".
"Irresponsible" is IMO too broad to draw too many parallels. Most flaws are basically tolerated until they make someone do something irresponsible. We care that Stark is arrogant and don't care that he's alcoholic because his arrogance caused Ultron and his alcoholism didn't.
I'm having trouble remembering Ant-Man (aside from the comedy bits). Wasn't "trying to be more responsible (for his son)" the
start of his character arc, though?
I think Guardians is more of a team-coming-together story than a personal origin story. Starlord doesn't particularly dick around about not wanting to save the galaxy, he's the one talking the team into taking on the mission in the first place. It's more of the Avengers 1 formula, with less direct infighting (although there IS a little) and more betrayal (e.g. calling the antagonist and saying "we're heeeeere!").