Does anyone know how to fix depression?

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You see, three years ago, I met this girl. I fell in love. We were engaged. But then, she left me.

I was suicidal in early college years, due to poor family upbringing and recently having moved (I had moved from Moncton New Brunswick to Cincinnati Ohio, so I lost any friends I have have had), and I was essentially feeling down on my luck. But then I met a girl.

A few months later, she left me a note saying she went to go find herself... Who she really was, and what she needed to do. I vowed to wait for her until she returned.

Meanwhile... It's been over a year now, and nothing has changed. I am terribly depressed, I can't focus, all I do is cry all the time or waste time doing nothing. I can't work as hard on my school work anymore, my grades have slipped horribly... I went from B+ student to below passing in under a year... I don't know what to do. At this rate, I won't get my degree, I'll be kicked out of college and have nothing. Nothing...
I don't doubt your love for this girl, and I certainly can understand that you were devastated when she left, but that makes it clear that while you were with this second girl, although you were in love and happy, you hadn't actually gotten passed your depression. Otherwise, you wouldn't have so quickly and suddenly fallen back into that sad and frustrating routine/mentality.

I don't know how to stop it. I seriously can't stop myself. I have no real friends anymore... No family. I've been looking on, and I just don't see the point of my living any more. I have no hope left. Before, I looked to the future because she was there. But now... I don't know anymore. I'm not suicidal, but I need to fix myself before this gets any worse... I don't know what to do.
That's the problem... when she was in your life things were better, but the moment she was gone you couldn't find a reason to live. You need to get through this depression for yourself, without holding onto a happiness that someone else gives you. Otherwise, you're not actually getting through this, you're just ignoring it by holding onto the things that make you happy in your life. This also isn't good because sometimes that can put a lot of pressure on whoever it may be that you're relying on to feel happy, which in turn may push them away.

I loved her. I don't know how I feel now. I don't know what to feel. I never thought she would leave for a whole year... leave me... Having been together for two years, and engaged, I never thought this would happen. Up until a month after she left, I always thought she would come back someday. Yet she has not.
There's nothing wrong with loving someone, or holding onto the hope that they'll come back. But she can't be that reason to live, or to try to make something of yourself. These things need to be done for you, and only for you. All the other people and things in your life should only be a bonus, things that add to your happiness, but they can't be the only things that make you happy. You need to be able to be alone, single, by yourself, and be happy, otherwise you're not genuinely happy with your life, even if you feel that way.

I'm a mess now, honestly. I shave about once a week, I look like trash. I don't put my contacts in anymore, I don't really do anything. I don't generally eat anymore. I eat about one meal a day, if that, about 500 calories. I sleep around four hours a day.
Go take a shower, and shave. Don't tell yourself you'll do it later, or that it's not a big deal, because it is. The biggest thing with depression (or anything close to) is just how easily you can put things aside, or procrastinate. The more you do this, the worse you'll feel. Sure, at the moment it'll be easier to sit there and watch TV, or whatever, but by the end of the day you'll feel like shit 'cause you didn't do anything productive. Exercise is also important. Even walking for half an hour a day, or running on a treadmill, anything for a half-hour, or an hour a day, every day is good. You'll feel more energized, and less fatigued.

You also need to get yourself some more sleep, and start eating at least three times a day, if not four to six. Depression is an vicious cycle of events that only feed off one another. The less you eat, the weaker you feel. The less you exercise, the more fatigued you feel. The less you sleep, the more tired you are. The more tired you are, the less you feel like doing. The less you do, the worse you feel, both mentally and physically.

I think my main problem is I don't have anymore grounding. I don't have anything to be excited or happy for. I mean, if you go home everyday, and think, "I can't wait to see my loving family, or my friends, or play game X" it becomes a lot more bearable. I haven't really looked forward to anything since she left. I just kinda slink through every day... Doing the bare minimum... Not really working on a lot.
Perhaps you could sit down sometime, and make a list of things you'd like to start doing on a daily or weekly basis. Or, you could make a list of things you enjoy. Doesn't matter if you used to enjoy it, but lately haven't, put it on the list anyways. Don't think about whether or not you'll do any of those things, or if it'll make you feel better. Just make the list, and put it aside for a day. Look at it the next day, and remind yourself of why you put each item on that list. Those are things that you enjoy, that make you happy, and things that you can continue to do to keep your mind distracted, to give it a break.

Now make a list of things that can help get you out of that dark hole. Exercise, eating right, getting enough sleep (and at proper hours), getting back into the routine of doing your homework, anything that is productive. Now, keep that list, and every single day do one of those things. At least one thing a day. Eventually you'll find yourself possibly doing more than one. But what's important is to do something everyday. Once you're getting enough sleep, eating more, and exercising, you'll finally start to feel like you have the energy to do other things. And once you're doing a little something every single day, you'll start to feel better. One day at a time.

I have not seen or spoken to her or exchanged messages for almost a year now...

EDIT: I don't think that this was an isolated incident. This has been happening for awhile. Before I met her, I never had anything either. I was young enough to not be too bothered by it, but when I met her, I was extremely dependent, and that was part of the problem. She was all I had, really. So I clung to her and made her validate my entire existence. I accept that if it were not for her, I would be long dead by now. I had no interest in living before I met her.
When anyone is suffering, and unhappy, and they find someone that truly makes them happy, they'll cling onto them and everything they share with one another. It's okay to enjoy that happiness, but it's not a good idea to allow that person to be 'the reason' or the 'everything'. Not only is it unfair to that person (it's a lot of pressure), but it's not fair to you. You need to be able to enjoy your life without certain people in it. You need to be able to enjoy yourself, and your own time. If you can't find happiness in those, you'll be that much more devastated if that link doesn't work out, or disappears for whatever reason. And it'll only be worse if that reason is because of that pressure previously mentioned.

Thanks for all the help everyone! I'll try to get a meeting with a school counselor soon...
Good! That's a start. Progress is the most important thing here. Making a list, following it on a consistent basis, and taking little steps regularly is key. These steps may not seem that significant to others, or even to you, but you must remind yourself that it is progress, and therefore it is important.

I feel a little better right now, since I have just gotten off of work. Working hard makes me think a lot less about what ails me, and helps me feel happier, if even for just a little while.
Good that work does this for you. If keeping your mind busy results in you feeling less down or stressed about yourself, or your life, then keep at it. I don't mean ignore everything that gets you down, but more often than not we make every situation or struggle worse by focusing on it. Being pessimistic, and only perpetuating ourselves into that downward spiral. The more anyone thinks about how bad a situation is, or how something simply can't be done (it's too hard), the harder it becomes to actually do something, anything.

My friend had a tag saying he was having trouble finding any positives in life anymore, so I asked what was up... He said his father had passed away recently, I felt like garbage. x.x When It came my turn to explain why I was down, he got pretty mad, since he thought the reason was absolutely trivial. I kinda agree... A little... but it still made me feel bad.
Don't feel bad, at all. Simply because your friend is dealing with a loss in the family, and you're struggling with something internal, doesn't make your struggle any less significant or difficult. Doesn't make you wrong, or any less of a person. Your struggles are real, no matter what someone else is ever struggling with. If that's something you find yourself constantly saying, stop, and remind yourself that your own internal struggles are exactly that, your own. They're real, and they're significant.

He's in pain, and lashing out at you. Don't take it to heart, or let it sway what you already know; this is something you're struggling with. You don't need to justify that to anyone.

Also, believe it or not, I am very self-sacrificing in my relationships. So, I don't know if I could ever "Put myself first".
And this needs to stop, at least until you can reach a point in your life where you're happy, with yourself, and by yourself. Until then, you need to actively force yourself to put yourself first.

I was depressed for three years, all through high school. I had fallen into a similar routine, and everything I did, or more importantly, didn't do, only made everything else worse. I would constantly focus on all the things that I wasn't doing, or what I couldn't do, which only made me feel worse. What's important is to focus on what is right, what it is you want for yourself, and in your life. Don't focus on what you don't have, or used to have, there's not much you can do about that. But what you can do is start working towards getting that. You want someone in your life that you love? Someone who loves you just as much as you them? You won't ever truly be able to do anything for anyone else unless you can take care of yourself. So, that's what you need to focus on.

That list that I mentioned earlier, add things that you want in your life; a home, a family, lover, degree, career, happiness. Now, ask yourself if you'll truly be able to attain any of that if you don't wish to live. Then put all those things in order. What you're currently on your way to getting, and what will come next once you complete that. So, you're career will follow your education. Your education is directly affected by you doing your homework, which in turn is affected by your procrastination, and unwillingness to actually do it. That is affected by how you feel. Everything comes back to you. Unless you physically and mentally feel as if you can do even the most simple things, you won't be able to reach those higher goals. They're not unattainable, but currently, they're fairly overwhelming. That will change once you start actively forcing and reminding yourself what you need to do, and how it can be done.

This isn't something that's wrong with you. This isn't something that needs to be fixed. It's something that you're struggling with, and that you can get through. All it takes is the determination to get through it, and some support. I have no doubts that by taking the right steps, and trying your best, you'll get through this.
 

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Fawcks said:
My friend had a tag saying he was having trouble finding any positives in life anymore, so I asked what was up... He said his father had passed away recently, I felt like garbage. x.x When It came my turn to explain why I was down, he got pretty mad, since he thought the reason was absolutely trivial. I kinda agree... A little... but it still made me feel bad.
Yeah, I know that kind of experience.

Don't beat yourself up though. I think what both you and your friend have misunderstood is the difference between depression and clinical depression.

Right now, it sounds like your friend is depressed. Almost everyone will get depressed at some point in their lives, and bereavement is a very common cause. However, this isn't necessarily the same thing you're experiencing at all.

Clinical depression isn't a rational response to real events, it's based on very deep factors like brain chemistry and very subconscious personality problems which make it very hard to bounce back from things. While your friend might feel terrible now, he will likely start to feel better over time as he comes to terms with the very traumatic event he's experienced. With clinical depression it's much harder to bounce back because the initial bad event feeds into more fundamental problems. This means even relatively minor things can escalate into a downward spiral which carries on indefinitely long after most people would have moved on and got over things.

While you might feel that everything that you feel is down your fiancé leaving, it seems very clear that things weren't perfect long before that point. What you have to recognize here is that you don't control how you respond to bad events in your life, a lot of it might well be due to very deep neurological and psychological factors which you can't see, and that makes you very different from your friend.

Cut your friend some slack, because he's clearly in a very bad way and it's easy to see how he might misunderstand why you feel the way you do, but at the same time don't beat yourself up. Again, it really isn't your fault.

Fawcks said:
Also, believe it or not, I am very self-sacrificing in my relationships. So, I don't know if I could ever "Put myself first".
This sounds familiar too..

You can't think like that though. I know it feels beautiful and loving from your end, but to others it can come across as an absolute nightmare. If you aren't looking after yourself, you're inevitably putting responsibility on them to look after you, and most people aren't trained to handle that level of responsibility. It can get incredibly overwhelming and even frightening, and the chances are you won't even notice what it's doing to people.

This is one of the hardest lessons I think I've ever had to learn, but it's also one of the most empowering and rewarding. Never put the needs of other people before yourself because one of two things will happen.

1) They will exploit you and leave you feeling worse.
2) They will feel responsible for you and your well-being, and it will probably scare them off.

Remember, while you might see yourself as worthless sometimes and be able to ignore or write off your own needs, other people can't do that. They care about you and your well-being, which is why they need you to look after yourself for their sakes.
 

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In order of how well it has worked for me over the 18 years I've struggled with emotional instability (Several clinical depressions as well as diagnosed with emotional personality disorder)

- Lots of exercise. This is the one thing that has helped me the most. No comparison.

- Lots of sunlight. Forcing myself to go outside at least 2 hours a day, while the sun is up (Don't matter if there's clouds, the effect is the same)

- At least 3 healthy meals a day with no exceptions, ever.

- Playing saxophone (I reckon other instruments will work just as well)

- Professional counseling

- Anti-depressive medication

Lots of other posters have already addressed the more specific aspects of your situation so I'll leave that out. This is simply a list of the things I've found to be effective in treating depression over the nearly two decades that I've dealt with it on a personal level.
 

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Mmmm... That is a problem of what happened, too. I never noticed it at the time, but I was often unhappy because I catered to Miss Rhia's every need and whim before I came to terms with what I needed or wanted. In fact, my friend had to tell me before I had ever noticed it. Miss Rhia only told me late in the relationship how troublesome my "Dependence" was, although I thought I could take care of things, I could never really decide without her input, and I always wanted her to kind of guide me towards what was right. This was very... Bad, as a future friend would later point out, because I had virtually no stopping point to how far I would go against myself in order to please someone else.
 

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I've crashed again. I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm all sobby, and it's not manly at all.

For the first time in years I've actually contemplated... Things I never would have thought about as a viable solution.

This stinks.
 

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Iv been though depression myself, but my circumstances were more of a transition from adolescence to maturity.

First off, know that you are not the first guy to be depressed after a relationship.
Second, what people said before about working out is true. Physical exercise increases chems in the brain that are similar to illegal drugs.

And finally as an atheist it pains me to say this but if nothing else works, go to church. There should be at least one in the area that would at the very least be a community to hang out with during the week some time.
 

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My main problem is I just flat out have no reason to live, really.

I don't find living enjoyable.

I am not doing any better now than I was, say, three months ago.

I have nothing on the horizon that looks promising.

I have no aspirations. No dreams.

No friends. No family.

I have absolutely nothing to keep me going, and I'm starting to run on empty.
 

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Fawcks said:
For the first time in years I've actually contemplated... Things I never would have thought about as a viable solution.
I've gone through that several times before in my life (assuming I get what you're referring to). In all honesty too, there was one time that there was a high likelihood I would probably have gone through with it without intervention.

I'm just going to tell you now that it's not a good idea. I don't know your situation exactly per se, but I can imagine that there are people out there that would be devastated. Even if you have to make that your sole motivation for not doing it; it's something to cling on to. You remind me of myself, in that I often forget about my own well-being when I get really down, and I'd often put others ahead of myself. At least until you get better, you may be able to use that as inspiration; don't hurt the people that do care.

Also, tell someone if you have to. A parent, grandparent, any sort of family member, close friend, doctor, someone who you think might be able to keep an eye on you. Admittedly I went through a period in time when I was feeling a complete loss of hope. One night I let slip to a friend how I was feeling, not really thinking about it. In my own situation, thinking back on it, it may have been a subconscious plea for help. Even though I felt like everything had hit rock bottom, I believe my body was trying to protect itself, without me even being consciously aware. Ultimately, this friend contacted my parents when thing's were at their worst, and this last minute intervention did a lot of good (without going into details).

So, my advice; try to find someone to tell who may be able to keep an eye on you. You're at college? Maybe a classmate you trust? Maybe even a teacher? Someone who might be able to notice if you stop attending classes because things take a turn for the worse. Perhaps someone who lives close to periodically check up on you? A neighbour maybe? I know I'm a hypocrite in saying this, as I didn't immediately do this myself, but, as much as I dislike them (I have my reasons, but that's a whole different story), you may want to see a professional. I'd volunteer to keep an eye on ya, but, I can't really do that in my situation.

I really hope that helped a bit. Get well soon :)
 

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I've moved to this area within the last three months, from many, MANY miles away.

I have nobody. No one. If I were to go missing, no one would notice.

No friends, no classmates I speak with, anything.
 

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Fawcks said:
I don't find living enjoyable.
Ok, now that's my problem :/... So, well, if it makes you feel any better, you're not alone. Right now it seems as if my distraction from it all is posting things on this website that people might feel beneficial. Otherwise, I don't feel like I'm really going anywhere :/...

Well, you have my sympathy :(
 

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I'll make sure to post back later if I come up with anything else, but unfortunately I'm going to be away for the next few hours, so, at the very least take care of yourself for the next little bit :).

I also know for a fact that there's lots of helpful people around the Escapist too, so I'm sure you can find someone if you really need someone to lend an ear.

Toodles for now.
 

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Rage is anger turned outward. Depression is anger turned inward. What is it about you that makes you angry? Once you figure that out, let go of it and forgive yourself. This is not a catch all cure, but it does tend to work more often than it doesn't.
 

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Added post since I cannot edit and, therefore, make my previous post appear.

Have a smile.

 

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I don't really know how to talk to people... Especially people I don't know.

I'm usually very friendly to others, but I'm not one to go out and talk to people without being addressed first. It's just not in my nature. I wouldn't even know where to start.
 

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Fawcks said:
I don't really know how to talk to people... Especially people I don't know.

I'm usually very friendly to others, but I'm not one to go out and talk to people without being addressed first. It's just not in my nature. I wouldn't even know where to start.
That's actually quite normal and isn't something that you should worry about.

A couple things that might help, though: If you're not working, grab a job at a retail store or a call center. These places are hell, yes, but you'll start developing the skills that you feel that you're missing. If you are, I'd suggest volunteering somewhere where you'll have to interact with the public. This will accomplish the same thing in the long run.

This is going to be difficult, but you have to be able to force yourself to do this. If you start thinking "I can't do this", it's because you're lacking in the determination to get it done. Refocus the effort you're putting forth to beat yourself up into digging your heels in the dirt. If you do this, you'll be able to force yourself into situations that you wouldn't otherwise be in. It's an uphill battle, but it's a battle worth fighting.

This technique has an added benefit, as well. Once you start developing these skills, but keep your head about you (it sounds like you will), you'll end up being both respected and respectable. There's nothing wrong with being the quiet person in a group. In fact, as the quiet person in the group that I'm in, I've found that people will actually match your tone if they want to listen to you.

Don't worry about assertiveness yet. You'll get that as time goes on.
 

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First, deal with your depression. There have been a tonne of suggestions above that you should try. In addition start eating leafy, green vegetables and taking vitamin and herbal suplements such Saint John's Wart. According to a counsellor I once talked to they are suppose to help with depression.

Second, start rebuilding your support network. What are you interested in? What have you always wanted to try? Try finding a group based around that. As someone suggested above, volunteer. Even if you are working thirty hours a week, make time to get involved in a group. You need to re-establish a connection to another person. This is easier when you are intereacting over an activity. Try arriving early for class. When I was going to college a lot of people would wait outside the classroom for tutorials to start. Use this time to strike up a conversation. Ask about how they found lectures, class readings, the tutor, how they are going with assignments.

Third, you need to get some financial support. You said you are working thirty plus hours in addition to college but received no financial support from your family. You need some form of financial support. In addition to leaving you some energy at the end of the day, you will also have some time to join a group or volunteer. Mention the hours worked to the counsellor. Ask her to direct you to financial services. Ask your parents for financial support. Ask any other members of your extened family for any support. Be certain to fully explain your situation, including that this depression has lasted for a year and that you are getting desperate. Make sure to write down, in dot form, everything you want to say.

Fourth, start making goals and positive reflections. At the end of every day write down three things you want to do tomorrow and three positive things that happened to you today.


I know I'll probably end up thinking up other things later but these are the ones I can think up now. I hope this helps
 

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Fawcks said:
My main problem is I just flat out have no reason to live, really.

I don't find living enjoyable.

I am not doing any better now than I was, say, three months ago.

I have nothing on the horizon that looks promising.

I have no aspirations. No dreams.

No friends. No family.

I have absolutely nothing to keep me going, and I'm starting to run on empty.
well, here's my advice on thar, just keep going. I know this sounds neigh impossible at the moment but things will be better eventually, and if they aren't, you will find some way of copping with it on the way tailored to your own self.

i know my advice sounds stupid and somewhat expected, but its the best i can give with my experience.
 

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Aylaine said:
Fawcks said:
I don't really know how to talk to people... Especially people I don't know.

I'm usually very friendly to others, but I'm not one to go out and talk to people without being addressed first. It's just not in my nature. I wouldn't even know where to start.
There's nothing wrong with that. All that is needed is acquiring the necessary skills in order to become more social in that manner. Getting those skills will be a tough one, but it will pay off in the end, as the means of attaining such skills usually benefit you in more then one way, in fact being able to go up to people and just talk to them or ask them something is extremely useful in many situations. :)

As Naheal said, you have to force yourself into a situation that would put this to the test. Putting you on the spot to deal with this in other words is what you need. See, at school, you have a choice not to go and talk to people or be social to and from. In a job where you answer phone calls or assist the public, you are required to be open, assertive and friendly to those around you and clients/customers. This eliminates any "i cant do it" or "i dont want to do it/i think i'd rather do something else" because you are working and it's required. The hard part is sticking with that, but again the benefits of gaining confidence, social interaction skills (when approaching others) and the like heavily make up for it. :)
To add to this, you have to get out of the mindset of "can" or "can't". Let me give you an example. Consider the following sentences.

I can do this.

I will do this.

The top sentence shows an amount of self confidence, but leaves yourself open to changing your mind if you feel like it later. The bottom is an example of forcing yourself to do it. One shows confidence, the other determination. If you don't have the confidence, determination will help you succeed. Without determination, you can have all the confidence in the world and not accomplish anything.
 

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You should take a look at this.



Right now your at the 3rd level of maslows hierarchy. I know its a lot easier said than done, but you need to make some friends in your area. Go to a bar or library and find some one to have a casual conversation with. I remember you saying you had a job, ask a coworker to hang out some time. Activity of any kind would be helpful.