thrided.BehattedWanderer said:Seconded,and stole the words from my mouth before I thought to think them together. Lucy is one the greatest characters that have ever been, near impossibly heart-wrenching, tragic and hopeful at the same time. Ignore the cousin and Nyu, though, they're just nuisances that take away from the emotional and psychological depth of the interaction between two characters--namely, Kota and Lucy.evilneko said:In a word, yes.
Yes it does.
Elfen Lied is one of the few animes I did not wait for a box set for.
But yes, it does get better. So much better. Yes, it would have been even better without the needless violence, the ridiculous pseudo-porn and the characters related to it, but beyond that the show is amazing.
You monster.Casual Shinji said:There's puppies in it, too.
manic_depressive13 said:Elfen Lied pissed me off so fucking much because they took what could have been a great show and shafted it with really shitty and disturbing fan service. Why couldn't they make Lucy's split personality child-like and innocent without making her full fucking retard? Sure, it ends up exploring some pretty dark themes and does it reasonably well, but fucking hell, I could never get past the sexualisation of someone who was depicted as having the mental age of a one year old.
((and any one else who called it porn))Casual Shinji said:Oh come on, "that" scene is so overly evil it just becomes ridiculous.Hisshiss said:That's cold man. Why you gotta bring up the puppies xD.Casual Shinji said:There's puppies in it, too.
"Oh look, it's still alive. Muhahahaha!"
Not that the show didn't have an impact on me, but it is basically emotional porn.
Give this man a medal for his name and cookie for the post.'[Kira Must Die said:]I'm not a fan of Elfen Lied. I use to love it when I first saw it a few years ago, but as time went by it seems really dated and flawed to me. It's trying to tell a dark, adult, and mature storyline, but it's more childish if anything. The violence is so cartoonish and mindless that it takes all the seriousness out of it and cease to be disturbing. If anything it's on the same level as Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan. Not to mention you have some bullshit ecchi/ harem moments that really grates on me, like the wimpy male lead somehow living in a house filled with women, or when he gets caught in an embarrassing position with another girl, etc. which seems very out of place in a show that's as supposedly "dark" as this. Other than that, the animation is terrible, there's a number of useless characters, some dialogue is a bit awkward, voice work in both English and Japanese isn't very good, and the writing gets pretty bad, too. Also, the ending to me just seems like blatant fanservice, and in context, makes no sense...
The manga is better, but it still has it flaws."Lucy, you killed my sister and father in cold blood right in front of me, and traumatized me for the rest of my life... I LOVE YOU!"
*smooch*
To me, it just seems like a really childish anime, instead of a show for "adults." But then again I don't hate the show, I just don't see it as an anime classic.
What? I explain that my issue with Elfen Lied was the gratuitous sexualisation and objectification of a mentally handicapped individual, and you manage to interpret that as "I don't like it because it's pornographic"? What? I never even called it porn. I just said that there was inappropriate sexualisation. Something doesn't need to be full cock-in-face action to be fucking disturbing.Sargent Hoofbeat said:((and any one else who called it porn))manic_depressive13 said:Elfen Lied pissed me off so fucking much because they took what could have been a great show and shafted it with really shitty and disturbing fan service. Why couldn't they make Lucy's split personality child-like and innocent without making her full fucking retard? Sure, it ends up exploring some pretty dark themes and does it reasonably well, but fucking hell, I could never get past the sexualisation of someone who was depicted as having the mental age of a one year old.
Us all here... we're all familiar with the anime genera right?
We're gonna call this porn are we?
Ok, well if you ever want to re-evaluate that I have some links...
On a scale of one to ten, with eight being what we've seen enough of to know what eight is, and ten being the shit on /b/ that you hope to never see, Elfen Lied is a 1.1 at the most.
Not saying that Nyu's sexualisation didn't put me off a bit, but just, you know, contextually sensitive guys
I think you're misunderstanding me.Sargent Hoofbeat said:((and any one else who called it porn))Casual Shinji said:Oh come on, "that" scene is so overly evil it just becomes ridiculous.Hisshiss said:That's cold man. Why you gotta bring up the puppies xD.Casual Shinji said:There's puppies in it, too.
"Oh look, it's still alive. Muhahahaha!"
Not that the show didn't have an impact on me, but it is basically emotional porn.
Us all here... we're all familiar with the anime genera right?
We're gonna call this porn are we?
Ok, well if you ever want to re-evaluate that I have some links...
On a scale of one to ten, with eight being what we've seen enough of to know what eight is, and ten being the shit on /b/ that you hope to never see, Elfen Lied is a 1.1 at the most.
Not saying that Nyu's sexualisation didn't put me off a bit, but just, you know, contextually sensitive guys
Manic_depressive13... I wonder how manic you get *Insane maniacal twitch*manic_depressive13 said:What? I explain that my issue with Elfen Lied was the gratuitous sexualisation and objectification of a mentally handicapped individual, and you manage to interpret that as "I don't like it because it's pornographic"? What? I never even called it porn. I just said that there was inappropriate sexualisation. Something doesn't need to be full cock-in-face action to be fucking disturbing.
How CAN I understand you? I am only able to comprehend one consciousness!!!Casual Shinji said:I think you're misunderstanding me.
I had no problem with the nudity whatsoever. What I meant when I said emotional porn is that it has this mentality of "Awww, look how sad this is! Look, look, see? Oh it's so sad, so devastatingly sad!!!"
In the same way that the Transformers movies are car and military porn, Elfen Lied is emotional porn. It's very effective, but beyond that there isn't much else.
Think you just spoiled abit, and really, is Lucy pre-pubescent? Do you know what that word means?Zhukov said:Uhh... it has its moments I guess. That "I've fought entire armies just to apologise to you" scene still sticks in my memory.
However, it also has this decidedly creepy obsession with tearing the clothes off pre-pubesent girls.
Mentally, Nyu is. I think that's what drives me so nuts. It's not just that she's child-like and innocent in her split personality. That would be a bit more understandable. But they went from emotionless killer to "mentally two years old". The gap there is just too large for me, I guess.TwiZtah said:Think you just spoiled abit, and really, is Lucy pre-pubescent? Do you know what that word means?Zhukov said:Uhh... it has its moments I guess. That "I've fought entire armies just to apologise to you" scene still sticks in my memory.
However, it also has this decidedly creepy obsession with tearing the clothes off pre-pubesent girls.
Anyway, OT: yes, yes it does big time.
Not Lucy, the other one. The younger one that was sent to bring her back. I don't remember her name.TwiZtah said:Think you just spoiled abit, and really, is Lucy pre-pubescent? Do you know what that word means?Zhukov said:Uhh... it has its moments I guess. That "I've fought entire armies just to apologise to you" scene still sticks in my memory.
However, it also has this decidedly creepy obsession with tearing the clothes off pre-pubesent girls.
Anyway, OT: yes, yes it does big time.
You fucking monsterCasual Shinji said:There's puppies in it, too.