Does the universe even want to be explained.

[Fishdog52]

Paraphrasing a bit, "[anything] sufficiently complicated is indistinguishable from magic." Most things, given the chaotic nature of the world, have numerous variables that we can't fully understand yet. Why do you think meteorologists always promise a 40% chance of anything?

Odds are, even as time approaches infinity, we will never truly solve every last mystery of the universe. We can probably figure out most of the ones which impact our daily lives though.

 

[Navvan]

Now, with all the things going on about particles going faster then light(thought to be impossible) and theories like Schrodinger's cat to confuse us even more, I have concluded that the Universe is sentient and will not and cannot, for some reason, let itself be fully explained. My theory is that for every mystery we solve will be another confusing situation, and it will carry on like a match of ping pong for the rest of all eternity, until the Universe decides to cheat and wipe us off itself like a human wipes an ant off of his knee. Thoughts, arguments, and opinions.

The FTL particles has been explained, and was an error in the calculations of those running the experiment. There is no evidence that the universe is sentient. Schrodinger's cat isn't confusing to a lot of people.

There is so much we don't know that I can see where you're coming from. However, I believe that eventually all phenomenon that can be explained will be. Certainly not in my lifetime, or likely even the next few thousand years but eventually.

 

[IKSA]

Universe is very complicated and it laws are bit odd and when technology devolps so does sience at least its better than beliving magical dood did it all.

 

[Denamic]

Now, with all the things going on about particles going faster then light(thought to be impossible) and theories like Schrodinger's cat to confuse us even more, I have concluded that the Universe is sentient and will not and cannot, for some reason, let itself be fully explained. My theory is that for every mystery we solve will be another confusing situation, and it will carry on like a match of ping pong for the rest of all eternity, until the Universe decides to cheat and wipe us off itself like a human wipes an ant off of his knee. Thoughts, arguments, and opinions.

Really.
Well I have this math equation that I cannot wrap my head around, so I have concluded that it is sentient and actively foils my attempts to solve it.
The problem cannot possibly lie with me.

The universe is unimaginably vast.
Yes, literally unimaginably vast.
It's absurd to think that any one person could possibly understand even a small percentage about it.
You've just pulled a very bad argument called 'god of the gaps', in which you insert a deity into something you do not understand.
For example: "This 'windmill' somehow mills the wheat by itself! That is impossible! The Wheat God must be behind it!"

 

[shadu957]

Hehe that's hilarious

 

[Ryengu]

If we are in any way part of the universe (which we are, made from the stuff of stars long dead), then as long as we want to explain the universe, some part of the universe must want to be explained. Yes? :B

 

[Rastrelly]

Now, with all the things going on about particles going faster then light(thought to be impossible) and theories like Schrodinger's cat to confuse us even more, I have concluded that the Universe is sentient and will not and cannot, for some reason, let itself be fully explained. My theory is that for every mystery we solve will be another confusing situation, and it will carry on like a match of ping pong for the rest of all eternity, until the Universe decides to cheat and wipe us off itself like a human wipes an ant off of his knee. Thoughts, arguments, and opinions.

Most possible is that word does not care if we explore it or not. At the same time it seems the world is endless in all senses, what makes it unexplorable.

 

[Soxafloppin]

Okay.

I for some reason read the title as "Does the Disney universe even want to be explained"

I then began reading the comments and thinking to myself WTF?

 

[retyopy]

It doesn't want to be explained? Too bad.

 

[huser]

Although I conclude from a few reactions that a sentient universe is a bit farfetched, I will stay by my theory that for every answer will come a new question to take the old ones place. Until it is disproved by a combination of cynics, critics, and people who actually know what they're talking about(Calling out to all sensemakers!!!)

That's not a theory. Gravity as it's understood by us is a theory. It needs to not only be consistent with all current knowledge, it needs to make verifiable predictions that are then...well verified.

 

[Something Amyss]

I love the casual approach to science. "Well, I don't really understand the world, and other things I don't understand are confounding the things I don't understand, so magic."

In this case, failure to understand the CERN experiments confounding a relative lack of understanding of the universe means it's fucking with us.

It couldn't possibly be that higher levels of understanding and greater ability to test our environment will almost certainly lead to at least some of our models being outmoded, simply because they were "as we best understand things now."

They could at least throw a tea party to calm us all down.

The tea party only comes if they need your brain. If they offer you a tea party, RUN!

 

[Something Amyss]

Although I conclude from a few reactions that a sentient universe is a bit farfetched, I will stay by my theory that for every answer will come a new question to take the old ones place. Until it is disproved by a combination of cynics, critics, and people who actually know what they're talking about(Calling out to all sensemakers!!!)

That's not a theory. Gravity as it's understood by us is a theory. It needs to not only be consistent with all current knowledge, it needs to make verifiable predictions that are then...well verified.

It's a theory as understood by the populace. As in, "a couple of brain cells made a half-assed attempted at sparking some neural activity, so I'm gonna run with it like it's important!"

Or, as it's better known, "Doctor Phil Syndrome."

 

[Versuvius]

The universe wants nothing, thinks nothing and believes nothing. It will just get on with what it has always done regardless of what we do. End of the world scenarios? Usually they are end of life scenarios and the earth goes on spinning, maybe on a different axis because of a meteor strike. What we do is inconsiquential in relation to everything beyond what is on our globe, which is fairly insignificant.

 

[huser]

Now, with all the things going on about particles going faster then light(thought to be impossible) and theories like Schrodinger's cat to confuse us even more, I have concluded that the Universe is sentient and will not and cannot, for some reason, let itself be fully explained. My theory is that for every mystery we solve will be another confusing situation, and it will carry on like a match of ping pong for the rest of all eternity, until the Universe decides to cheat and wipe us off itself like a human wipes an ant off of his knee. Thoughts, arguments, and opinions.

Interestingly enough Neil Degrasse Tyson gave a lecture basically explaining this. You join minds no less impressive as Ptolemy, Galileo, Newton, Laplace, etc that basically made their truly epic contributions to the sciences, couldn't explain the problem BEYOND the problem they had just solved and so invoked God controlling the rest.

What's of course interesting with this particular lineage of thinkers is that the NEXT guy in the line explained (completely secularly with math or observation) the thing the previous guy thought only the supernatural could explain.




TLDR: Just because it's currently complicated or even paradoxical doesn't mean it needs to be supernatural. In fact, the line of human science for millenia proves otherwise.

 

[cthulhlu]

Things are hard to explain because we are trying to make sense of a eleven dimensional time/space interaction using brains evolved to throw rocks at things, and using a language designed to tell other monkeys that This Is My Tree! My Tree! Grrr!

Also Schrodinger cat wasn't supposed to be a metaphor about quantum states, it was a joke to show how stupid the observer/uncertainty principle was at the time, it's basically a giant piss take that people now think is science.

 

[kypsilon]

I believe that the universe doesn't need to be explained, it needs to be understood.

 

[theonecookie]

Yes, that's it why did I not see this before the universe must be sentient its the only explanation that makes sense can't have anything to do with our limited understanding of the universe in any way (you know the whole point of science) nope the universe is alive and making it as it go's just to fuck with us you know because it's got nothing better to do being the universe and all.

In fact why don't we go full retard and declare that the universe is nothing more than a power source for a 10th dimensional beings fucking toaster (cookie for reference)but that sad thing is that's much more likely than the shit you just sprouted

In fact if your idea is true (Its fucking not)why didn't any one notice until you had this great epiphany and why do the new rules of the universe make more sense than the old ones what you've got to realise is that most of science come with a sticker that says under all tested conditions , gravity works under all tested conditions ,mass and velocity work under all tested conditions ,the basic understanding of the universe works under all tested conditions and so on but no low and behold element 234 shows up and is immune to gravity surly this means anre understandings of gravity are all wrong nope it just means we've never seen element 234 and so we need to re-look at the findings and adjust the theory

Also i would like to point out that your idea is a logical fallacy and that if the universe was sentient and fucking with us it no longer is because its been figured out so congrats your wrong even if your right but then again I expected no less for this stupid idea

science out

 

[Belaam]

Since you can't prove that the Universe is sentient nor not, I conclude that it is both until we observe it.

So it seems like you would agree with the logic of the following:

Since you can't prove whether or not you are a Leprechaun making these posts from a magic powered laptop on the back of a unicorn, and not a human with internet access, I conclude that you are until I observe you.

Just having two options does not give them equivalent odds of being true.

 

[BrownGaijin]

Ah yes the Universe. That big thing that's around us. Perhaps I'm old, no wait you know what this guy can say it better:

Spoiler

Emphasis on the happy part.

 

[brownie212]

Observer Effect, meaning that any observation we explain will leave a spot to be filled in with another observation that we have to explain, until there is nothing left and the universe has no choice but to make us cease to exist.

oddly there is actually a theory that states that if the universe was ever fully explained it would be instantly destroyed and replaced with something much more weird, but then there is a part of quantum physics which states that the whilst the present does not affect the future it does effect the past, in other words the first time an event is observed it is entirely reasonable that it's at that point the universe decides just how it happens and not before.