Same on both accounts. I was about to post "Pokémon? Hell no, that shit has not aged well." But then I saw your post and realized that I had actually seen another anime prior to that.SomeLameStuff said:My first anime was Digimon Adventure
So yeah, it holds up well.
gonenow3 said:Obviously sub > Dub because lets face it most animes are buttered when dubbed and pokemon is no exception
Same for me. Although I wasn't actually aware that they were subpar. I didn't really have a concept for good or bad quality at the time. First good show I watched was... Coyboy Bebop or maybe Trigun. I think they both still hold up, although Trigun might not be for everyone.Johnny Novgorod said:I think it was Dragon Ball. I was always aware it was very subpar. Pokemon too. I think the first good thing that I watched was Rurouni Kenshin.
I dunno if you've watched pokemon with dubs since Battle Frontier but god that shit is awful since they replaced Ash's voice actor. Also the fact that English versions are often butchered to fit into America's horrific broadcasting schedule with billions of ads it comes out much worse than the subbed version. Also if you actually wait for the quality subbed rather than the rushed 1-2 day version you avoid half the issues you just described.Zontar said:gonenow3 said:Obviously sub > Dub because lets face it most animes are buttered when dubbed and pokemon is no exception
Going to have to disagree with you on that one, mainly due to the fact that subs more often then not have a nonsensical sentence structure and often make mistakes. Especially fan subs, which as a rule have mistakes both intentional and unintentional, annoying romanized Japanese kept in with another translation at the top of the screen, and vulgarity which is added in because the subbers felt that the equivalent to 'crap' should be 'fucking hell this is bullshit'. Also, 'people die if they are killed'.
And to add insult to injury, the Western English dubbing scene has caught up with Japan for VA quality, and anyone saying otherwise either doesn't watch dubs to see what the quality is today, or is saved from seeing how bad Japanese VAs can be due to the language barrier.
I'll agree that dubs have had a long history of being done wrong, due to their many pitfalls (getting lips to sync up, or dealing with words and phrases that don't exist in the English language), but when done well, I think they have their place. When it's an anime with a multi-cultural cast, dubs usually work better for me, since Japan's pool of voice actors tends to be almost uniformly Japanese people with no foreign heritage.gonenow3 said:I dunno if you've watched pokemon with dubs since Battle Frontier but god that shit is awful since they replaced Ash's voice actor. Also the fact that English versions are often butchered to fit into America's horrific broadcasting schedule with billions of ads it comes out much worse than the subbed version. Also if you actually wait for the quality subbed rather than the rushed 1-2 day version you avoid half the issues you just described.Zontar said:gonenow3 said:Obviously sub > Dub because lets face it most animes are buttered when dubbed and pokemon is no exception
Going to have to disagree with you on that one, mainly due to the fact that subs more often then not have a nonsensical sentence structure and often make mistakes. Especially fan subs, which as a rule have mistakes both intentional and unintentional, annoying romanized Japanese kept in with another translation at the top of the screen, and vulgarity which is added in because the subbers felt that the equivalent to 'crap' should be 'fucking hell this is bullshit'. Also, 'people die if they are killed'.
And to add insult to injury, the Western English dubbing scene has caught up with Japan for VA quality, and anyone saying otherwise either doesn't watch dubs to see what the quality is today, or is saved from seeing how bad Japanese VAs can be due to the language barrier.
I've tried both but I always prefer subs.
If I remember correctly, I ran across it uncensored in my local video rental shop. Hell, I honestly believe that it was the result of my friends and I renting so many anime VHS tapes that they went ahead and created their own anime section. Of course, since we lived in a college town, there was an ever-changing customer base that could support that section. I don't think the 3 of us would have been able to keep that section afloat all by ourselves. Ah, the heady days of my undergrad years.000Ronald said:OH MY GOD! ME TOO! DID YOU WATCH IT ON THE SCI-FI CHANNEL BACK IN THE EARLY 90's, TOO?davidmc1158 said:My first anime was Akira actually. I would say that it holds up pretty well. The production quality still holds up and I still find some of the philosophical concepts in the story interesting.
I keep forgetting that that was a Japanese-Dutch co-production, and thus anime. So I guess Cowboy Bebop wasn't my first after all. AJK was damn good too, that art style was amazing. Still is, to be honest, that one definitely holds up.Casual Shinji said:Alfred Jodokus Kwak
And the onus for that would have been on you for not paying close enough attention. To Love Ru wears what it is on it's sleeve, so you got no real excuse for being 'surprised' by the content. It's like sitting down with Gundam and complaining about all the Mobile Suit battles.StormShaun said:To Love Ru
This... filth almost made me lose faith in anime, and it is the primary thing that drives my harem-genre hate, which will never, ever, EVER go away! Then the savior followed up, Clannad (which is a tagged harem anime, but my mind twists the definition of "harem"), and that is all I need to say.