DoJ, Antitrust and Google
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If we're talking about Google, this is kind of too-little, too-late, isn't it?
Or do I have to head over to Ask Jeeves to check for some sources...
Microsoft has already been fined for similar behaviour in the past. Most of its synergies are well known and tested (obviously Windows and Office suit are it's big moneyspinners). Apple is extremely hard to call a monopoly, because it clearly has a minority of the market every big value area (chiefly mobile phones and computers). Amazon is maybe interesting: it may escape attention because in practice there are so many other online vendors. Even if it is disproportionately huge compared to any one other single online retailer, it's - I think - less than half the entire online market. However, so many other vendors sell through Amazon, it could be viewed as potentially too powerful.
I was thinking more In regards to Amazon's web services. They own like 40% of the cloud market.
Amazon Owns Nearly Half Of The Public-Cloud Infrastructure Market Worth Over $32 Billion: Report
Atherton Research's Principal Analyst and Futurist Jeb Su shares his take on Gartner's latest annual market share report covering the global cloud infrastructure (IaaS) space dominated, this year again, by Amazon Web Services.
www.forbes.com
Microsoft has a huge synergy between their operating system, browser, search engine, Xbox, game developers, Office, Media Player.. and so much more.
I thought the most popular phones were Samsung, and they come from the manufacturer with Samsung internet, so arguing that they have the market cornered on Android is more of a personal choice issue than being forced to use it.
My Samsug tablet still had google search installed so does my fathers Samsung phone so I dunno maybe it's change more recently but I from what I've seen not so much.
It may depend on where you purchased the phone and tablet from. Mobile providers put apps on the phones as well. Hell even Best buy adds apps to their products. I don't buy mine from either of those, so that very well may have been who you bought it from rather than it being a default setting. Samsung has been using Samsung internet a long time now and is still using it. My products come with factory settings.
"Samsung Internet replaced the stock Android browser as the default on Samsung Galaxy devices in 2012."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Internet
No, it's never too late, and Google deserves this anyways for their objection to project Maven, but agreeing to go to China, and censored for the CCP.
The "progressive" who loves big tech. Oh please, tech companies, please don't raise my prices, I will give you all the monopoly power you want. That sounds like blackmail.
Samsung isn't a monopoly either, and lets people install whatever browser they want on their android phones.
Do y'all know what a monopoly is?
Do y'all know what a monopoly is?
A monopoly is a concentration of market-share in a single company, to the extent that they can effectively avoid competition altogether and set their own prices/standards/rules. Meaning that the fact Samsung allows users to install whatever browser they want doesn't mean they're not a monopoly, because the users' right to do so only exists by their good graces.
I wouldn't say Samsung has a monopoly anyway, because it shares the market with a few other companies (Apple and Huawei mainly, at least here in the UK). But the market is still restricted to a small number (<5) enormous corporations with very little room for anybody smaller, so while there may not be a true monopoly, there certainly isn't a healthy marketplace.
In so much as competition is important for a vibrant marketplace, at some point you have to accept the barrier to entry is just going to be too damn high for all but a few to get in on. There will be many competing manufacturers for making belts, but complex and expensive electronics requiring many rare metals and absurdly high quality production facilities? Come on man, be a bit of a realist.
I think this goes to show how great the perceived importance of google is. For most people google is the go to search engine, it is what the vast majority of the population in the western world uses to navigate the internet, while also hosting a ton of internet services.
What would, in a hypothetical, happen if google decided to take their ball and go home? No new contracts for hosting, no new code, and when already running contracts are up they aren't renewed. Google takes down the entire virtual infrastructure hosted and built by the company. How badly would this effect people who regularly use the internet?
I know that my county has teachers using google docs and google drive for sharing of papers, homework, reading, and essay writing. Most also keep their lesson plans in a purely online format. And that's just one institution.
What would, in a hypothetical, happen if google decided to take their ball and go home? No new contracts for hosting, no new code, and when already running contracts are up they aren't renewed. Google takes down the entire virtual infrastructure hosted and built by the company. How badly would this effect people who regularly use the internet?
I know that my county has teachers using google docs and google drive for sharing of papers, homework, reading, and essay writing. Most also keep their lesson plans in a purely online format. And that's just one institution.
The cost of entry is not so high as to prevent all but 3 companies existing in the smartphone space. Fewer than exist in the TV or gaming console markets? Or computer manufacturers? And for a product which almost everybody in a wealthy country has? That's not realism; that's accepting an anti-competitive status quo.
Sounds less like synergy and more like just benefiting from being the first thing that anyone looks at. For example, there are plenty of browsers that run on Windows, none of them better or worse purely for being associated with Microsoft.
They don't actually havea monopoly though.
TheMysteriousGX gets it.
Almost all of Microsoft's stuff though is all linked through your Microsoft account and a lot of that can be used in combination with one another.