Doomsday Arcade: Episode 20

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Episode 20

If Lund and Shanks are dead someone else has to take up the resistance. I said IF.

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So......God mode?

EDIT: Yeah, god mode http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/doomsday-arcade/511-Episode-Two

2nd Edit: They'll probably get some other explanations for this. Just to say "Good try, but no". That and most people seems to vote for the idea of God mode still on....
 

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Uh... Hmmm...

I'm guessing you can't be killed by a non-agressive NPC?
 

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What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
 

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I think that we are seeing another effect of Michael poison...maybe.

Toad is still worthless.
 

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Sort of a weak episode...

If this doesn't get explained, and is just rolled over as if it was unforgotten realms, I will be very pissed :S
 

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Poor Toad. All he wanted was respect from his peers......To bad he's just to much of a wimp.

And a cliffhanger? Really? Come on. Tell us your secret? I won't tell anyone.
 

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"I'm talking to you, bitchtits!"

Haha, damn. I thought toad would have a plan, not just fail to kill them.

Is this god mode striking again?
 

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Eh... definitely one of your weaker episodes, but I do like the reference to the first episode.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there something about a God mode in one of the first episodes? Is that it?
 

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"you looked like you've been skullfucked" lolz nice list of extra lives and a great cliff hanger
 

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W.....T.....F?

"Vita Chamber?"
"not yet"
great little teaser.

and why is liquid snake in the orange box?!?!

as for the invincibility i have no clue but makes another good question for future weeks
 

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It can't be god mode because in the second episode they were stopped by the server for enabling god mode and hence cheating.
 

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Nimbus said:
Uh... Hmmm...

I'm guessing you can't be killed by a non-agressive NPC?
or, Toad cant do any damage because he is a weakling, like Mario said.
 

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Yay I thought it had ended. Good episode if a little strange can't wait for the next
 

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I'm so glad this episode is finally out, it's answered absolutely... Nothing...

Props though, you made it entertaining.
I mean I'm still loving it.


"Phwoar!"
 

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Phhooaarrrr! Poor toad, what does he expect. Nice comical episode, Tom and Ryan are awesome.

Yay bloopers!
 

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Random argument man said:
So......God mode?

EDIT: Yeah, god mode http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/doomsday-arcade/511-Episode-Two
Thats what I was thinking. Either that, or the place they are in makes them invincible.
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode
You're forgetting that Toad is a little *****.

As for invulnerability... Hero Caveat? (also known as GM armour)
 

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My explanation for their not being dead?

Somehow they have become meat flags a la Gears of War 2.
 

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Maybe it was the mercer meatloaf? The mercer meal? The Alix soufle? By which I mean that they could have mercer manliness from their Alix anchovies.
 

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Don't forget that Cooking Mama was TOO good at cooking up their death, perhaps winding up giving them ambrosia, thus giving them 9999 health?

Since, y'know, they're still gaining holes and stuff. Maybe if you dished enough damage to leave nothing left to put a hole in?
 

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Kalezian said:
Nimbus said:
Uh... Hmmm...

I'm guessing you can't be killed by a non-agressive NPC?
or, Toad cant do any damage because he is a weakling, like Mario said.
I'd be inclined to believe this guy. Remember, video game laws. They were just recently in RPG land too, and this is common RPG territory.

The Michaels (sorry) are probably at like level 40 by final fantasy standards by now - they were able to directly challenge the Dice Lord and get the exposition out of him, but unable to hit him. 30 sounds roughly right to me, at least. In any case, their level is relatively high.

Toad, of course, is a little *****. Level 1, if that. If a 10-small guns skill Lone Wanderer shoots a Super Mutant Overlord with a The Terrible Shotgun, it's still going to do shit damage on account of the skill being so low, despite the animation being exactly the same as if the skill was higher.

Ergo, Toad is simply too low level to do any real damage.
 

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W.....T.....F?

"Vita Chamber?"
"not yet"
great little teaser.

and why is liquid snake in the orange box?!?!

as for the invincibility i have no clue but makes another good question for future weeks
I think the orange box is to contain the portal tech.
Pretty good episode. Poor toad's speechless.
 

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One of the weaker episodes...still was fairly good. Getting a bit confusing though.
 

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I'm thinking we're seeing the effects of the Mercer-meal here.

Although, they also got shot out of a cannon prior to eating Mercer so yeah, maybe it is God mode.
 

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benylor said:
Kalezian said:
Nimbus said:
Uh... Hmmm...

I'm guessing you can't be killed by a non-agressive NPC?
or, Toad cant do any damage because he is a weakling, like Mario said.
I'd be inclined to believe this guy. Remember, video game laws. They were just recently in RPG land too, and this is common RPG territory.

The Michaels (sorry) are probably at like level 40 by final fantasy standards by now - they were able to directly challenge the Dice Lord and get the exposition out of him, but unable to hit him. 30 sounds roughly right to me, at least. In any case, their level is relatively high.

Toad, of course, is a little *****. Level 1, if that. If a 10-small guns skill Lone Wanderer shoots a Super Mutant Overlord with a The Terrible Shotgun, it's still going to do shit damage on account of the skill being so low, despite the animation being exactly the same as if the skill was higher.

Ergo, Toad is simply too low level to do any real damage.
if that was TL and you DR, simply: Toad Fails.......

but yea, that did make a lot of sense. that or his guns were in terrible condition.

or, lets go with the Dice Lord..........Toad is a natural 1 roller...........
 

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Now that's what I call overkill XD

This episode was hilarious! I can't wait till the next one :D
 

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Obviously, he's an ally and just doesn't realize it yet. You see, friendly fire was turned off. Obviously.
 

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I think it's god mode or all that Mercer they ate before hand. Kind of a weird episode though, it wasn't bad, just weird.
 

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Soma classic jokes here and there - finding reason why they are alive, and side characters getting taking over the story were the funniest for me :) and good question - why aren't they dead XD
 

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Kalezian said:
benylor said:
Kalezian said:
Nimbus said:
Uh... Hmmm...

I'm guessing you can't be killed by a non-agressive NPC?
or, Toad cant do any damage because he is a weakling, like Mario said.
I'd be inclined to believe this guy. Remember, video game laws. They were just recently in RPG land too, and this is common RPG territory.

The Michaels (sorry) are probably at like level 40 by final fantasy standards by now - they were able to directly challenge the Dice Lord and get the exposition out of him, but unable to hit him. 30 sounds roughly right to me, at least. In any case, their level is relatively high.

Toad, of course, is a little *****. Level 1, if that. If a 10-small guns skill Lone Wanderer shoots a Super Mutant Overlord with a The Terrible Shotgun, it's still going to do shit damage on account of the skill being so low, despite the animation being exactly the same as if the skill was higher.

Ergo, Toad is simply too low level to do any real damage.
if that was TL and you DR, simply: Toad Fails.......

but yea, that did make a lot of sense. that or his guns were in terrible condition.

or, lets go with the Dice Lord..........Toad is a natural 1 roller...........
Maybe the elevator took them into Mortal Kombat world, where the can take shitloads of damage and bleed to death over and over, without actually dying.
Or, perhaps, that timeless gaming staple, regenerating health?
 

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As Cloud8745 once said; TOAD GETS ALL THE BITCHES!!! http://www.viddler.com/explore/cloud8745/videos/2/

OT: I have no idea how they survived all that, but it was as funny as always.
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
Logic left the building at Episode 1, keep up!


EDIT: Yay! More out-takes!
 

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I like this series, but I don't like the lack of resolution in some episodes. After watching the 800 Naruto filler episodes, I can't stand crap like this that has no point anymore.
 

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maybe its some form of pre-round or after round that you get in PFS sometimes where you can just shoot like mad at the enemy and nobody dies.
 

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crotalidian said:
and why is liquid snake in the orange box?!?!
The box in question is actually used in Metal Gear Solid, and has no relation to the Valve Orange Box.

 

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kukuku ^^ said:
crotalidian said:
W.....T.....F?

"Vita Chamber?"
"not yet"
great little teaser.

and why is liquid snake in the orange box?!?!

as for the invincibility i have no clue but makes another good question for future weeks
I think the orange box is to contain the portal tech.
Pretty good episode. Poor toad's speechless.
In Metal Gear games there is always at least one box marked "THE ORANGE", i dont think it was a reference
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building


Answer: It's an internet series, it doesn't NEED to make sense...
 

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What the heck? XD

Probably the funniest one out of all of them if you ask me. I don't get how this will work into the story, though.
 

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Tears of Blood said:
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What the heck? XD

Probably the funniest one out of all of them if you ask me. I don't get how this will work into the story, though.
It'll keep them from being dead...
 

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This series is becomming more and more surreal as time goes on...

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[HEADING=1]AWESOME![/HEADING]
 

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I'm gonna go with that the Protagonist never dies?

That or Toad has a Paintball-gun shooting black... balls
That sounds extremely racist, doesn't it? But the holes in their head are black
 

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Ah this was quite beast. Yeah I am believing it's when they turned on God Mode as you can always forget you turned it on.
 

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Arbitrary Cidin said:
Obviously, he's an ally and just doesn't realize it yet. You see, friendly fire was turned off. Obviously.
...Holy sh*t, that makes the most sense, if Godmode isn't it. Or it would, if they hadn't been shot out of a cannon, poisoned, and subject to deadly situations multiple times over.

It works for Toad, though. And it's original.
 

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pfft toad is so useless, he can't even kill a pair of guys with several headshots, a flamethrower, a minigun, and a cleaver to the head.

That's my theory anyway...
 

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And I just realized, when Tom and Ryan are waiting for their protagonist spot.

Just after Lund and Shanks are shot, a small message pops up on Ryan's computer screen: "Wow, that was a fucking convenient camera, wasn't it?"

Small details like that just make me love this series even more. :3
 

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Haha Liquid Snake coming in made me laugh. But if the second episode was Big Boss and thats Liquid...Where is Solid Snake?
 

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Prince of Persia, now with even worse memory!
While the "Toad's too low level" theory is the most likely, might it be that they are invincible due to a side-effect from the unsuccessful "Michael Poison" Cooking Mama gave them?
 

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I just can't help but feel bad for Toad; he tried so damn hard, and did so damn well.
I loved the music that played when he stalked towards Lund with a cleaver.
Excellent episode; can't wait for the next!
 

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I love Tom's voice when he goes all high and creepy

poor poor toad, he just wants a bit of love!
 

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P.A. Master said:
Arbitrary Cidin said:
Obviously, he's an ally and just doesn't realize it yet. You see, friendly fire was turned off. Obviously.
...Holy sh*t, that makes the most sense, if Godmode isn't it. Or it would, if they hadn't been shot out of a cannon, poisoned, and subject to deadly situations multiple times over.

It works for Toad, though. And it's original.
Actually, I originally was going to say godmode too, but I erased it because godmode would destroy any and every attempt at conflict in the show. The biggest giveaway was the use of TF2 guns. In TF2, hitting an ally does no damage, but they get bloody spots on the place you shot them.
 

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My guess is eating Prototype guy made em invincible.

Though still my fav episode is the Pokemon one.
 

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indeed it is a very %#@$ing convenient camera

maybe toad missed his head shot roll at point blank five hundred thousand bagillion times =]

it could happen

that or they have a REALLY LOW saving throw
 

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Episode was a bit weak. I'm a little bit confused as how this show can come out with epic episodes like the Dicelord/Fear ones and then occasional have stupidly gory, childish in joke fests with a little bit of gamer humour thrown in for good mesure.

ANYWAY. WILD THEORY TIME: On the subject of invunerability.

1) God Mode. Unlikely, in the episode in which they activate god mode Lund and Shanks are blocked from leaving by a warning message. The implication is that they had to switch it off. More to the point, God Mode would trash any sense of dramatic tension and just plain be a cop out

2) Mercer Inverunerbility. I thought it was likely before. Less so now. Seeing as before the implication was that Lund got one gift and Shanks got another. Memory and Regeration respectively.

3) Micheal Poison backfiring. Plausible, but seems a bit...obscure. Seeing as there's been no futher referance to it since that episode.

4) Lund and Shanks stats being high in comparison to Toads. More likely, given the amount that 19 was talking about stats and there effect on events. The two snags I see with this is that the Dicelord didn't comment on their Constitution stat, only a very high luck. The other big drawback is that they aren't in RPG world any more, so the same rules might not apply any more. Toad it's an RPG gaming abstraction, which whilst it doesn't stop him from being a ***** means he can't really have stats.

5) No damage due to friendly fire. This fits nicely assuming they are on the same side for some unknown reason, given that the TF2 abstraction fits, the guns are the same. It's weird that they died from the first shots, but it could just be dramatic lisence.

I'm going with 4 or 5 right now. To me them being on the same team is the -most- likely possibility given that Toad really resents Mario/Luigi and it implies an allience with anyone else who has the same feeling.
 

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Am I the only one that thought it was gonna be "Braid" when the doorbell rang? D:
 

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logic left the building un every episode thats what makes them so great
 

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I think they didn't die because friendly fire was off. Toad is probably aligned with them, but doesn't realize it yet. Just an idea.
 

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I suppose Toads can't kill maybe? Or perhaps health regenaration? God Mode? Hacks? Alex Mercers jacket?
 
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Hehehe, this episode is right up my alley.

"Poahahahaha"

and

"so......"
"yea....."

plus

*camera moving back, color correction goes away*
"so wait, how the fuck are we still alive?"
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
Not as weird as the dice lord-on a scale of 1 to 10 the dice lord is 100
 

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Toad's level isn't high enough? Idk, I'd say the Godmode is the best bet, though. :) Awesome episode~
 

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I vote for 3 things

god mode from ep 2.

alex Mercer is helpin' out.

Toad's small Weapons skill is to low, and heavy weapons are also too low to inflict dammage.
 

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Carne said:
Alex Mercer probably has something to do with this.
I'm thinking something along these lines right now. In Prototype there is a similer sceen, well there was a moment where a guy shot me to no effect and then I punched him into a wall, thats basicly the same thing right?
 

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they have over life from the medic's gun healing them or this could be a dice lord thing again.
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
They didn't die, because Toad is useless.

It doesn't matter how well trained he is. He's useless!

Also, I love that last line!
 

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They never did turn God Mode off after episode 2...
Father Time said:
Well apparently they've been invincible since at least the cooking mama episode.
Damn, It all makes sense now!
 

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The first thing I thought was that they still had God Mode on, so I'd go with that. Unless it is some other weirdness going on like server lag.
 
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No, No, No, No, That's not what happened.

Actually Lund and Shanks explained what happened last episode, I can see no other reason, apart from perhaps that neither of them is wearing hairclips...

Yes, noclip was engaged, so the bullets pass straight through.

Obviously.

Can I have my pills now?
 

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Maybe there was another reason that Nefarious didn't kill them? This is the 3rd time they've survived something that should have killed them.
 

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I laughed so hard when right after being shot in the face, he grabs toad and just RAILS it through the fucking wall. XD
 

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What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
Its comedy be honest when is there ever logic in that
 
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I'm stuck back an episode with the Dice Lord and RPGs. Given Toad's assault, he has a high dexterity stat, with little attack strength.
Not much closure with this here episode.
 
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I've got the Dicelord's "Neither one of us will kill the other." line running over and over in my head.

Maybe the Micheals can't be killed at all? Even before the godmode and the Mercer-Suprise?

Next next Thursday can't come fast enough!
 

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ALEX MERCER POWERS!!!!! I wondered when they would appear.
This gets my vote. I never played the game, though, so I have to ask: does Mercer's health really regenerate that quickly?
 

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Kalezian said:
Nimbus said:
Uh... Hmmm...

I'm guessing you can't be killed by a non-agressive NPC?
or, Toad cant do any damage because he is a weakling, like Mario said.
I'd be inclined to believe this guy. Remember, video game laws. They were just recently in RPG land too, and this is common RPG territory.

The Michaels (sorry) are probably at like level 40 by final fantasy standards by now - they were able to directly challenge the Dice Lord and get the exposition out of him, but unable to hit him. 30 sounds roughly right to me, at least. In any case, their level is relatively high.

Toad, of course, is a little *****. Level 1, if that. If a 10-small guns skill Lone Wanderer shoots a Super Mutant Overlord with a The Terrible Shotgun, it's still going to do shit damage on account of the skill being so low, despite the animation being exactly the same as if the skill was higher.

Ergo, Toad is simply too low level to do any real damage.
That makes a lot of God damned sense. I'm probably going to side with you on this, but there's another theory that caught my attention. Somebody said it has to do with them eating Alex Mercer, and that makes sense too. He can get shot a million times, and not be slowed down, so they probably gained his power.

I doubt that it's god mode, because people seem to forget that Shanks got his legs blown off after they tried to turn god mode on. Lund also got shot in the foot, not to mention all the wounds they sustained while fighting Mercer.

For me it's a toss up between them having Mercer's powers, or the RPG level theory.



sooperman said:
IAmWright777 said:
ALEX MERCER POWERS!!!!! I wondered when they would appear.
This gets my vote. I never played the game, though, so I have to ask: does Mercer's health really regenerate that quickly?
Depending on how far in the game you are, yes, his health regenerates very quickly. But even without fast health regeneration Mercer can absorb a ridiculous number of bullets without taking much damage.
 

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"Vita Chamber?"
"not yet"
I was going to quote the same thing. I'm excited for that episode. 8D

And the throwback to the first episode with the Tom and Ryan part was awesome. Except for their, y'know, gruesome deaths. I think it could have been the start of a near-beautiful friendship.
 

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Alex Mercer probably has something to do with this.
If Mercer possessed delayed regenerative capabilities before Shanks and Lund ate him, then it could work. They would be restored to full health and fitness in a few weeks, giving them time to take the hits this episode, and be fully restored in two weeks. Simple (to me) and effective.
Always nice to see a revival of the 8-Bit Tie with Tom and Ryan.

Theory Disproval:

They would most likely have left the Land of the RPG when the Dicelord transported them to the Resistance's location, thus disproving all Toad Level 1 theories. He can't be a level 1 if he's not in the RPG lands.

Also, Cooking Mama didn't necessarily use the Michael Poison as an ingredient in Mercer stew, it was just in her cupboard.
*shudder* The eyes... Oh God, the eyes...

trollboy said:
It can't be god mode because in the second episode they were stopped by the server for enabling god mode and hence cheating.
He's right. They can't have used god mode.

And there you have it. Delayed regeneration is the only explanation.
 

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Poor Toad. All he wanted was respect from his peers......To bad he's just to much of a wimp.

And a cliffhanger? Really? Come on. Tell us your secret? I won't tell anyone.
Hahaha! He's such a little *****!
 

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Carne said:
Alex Mercer probably has something to do with this.
If Mercer possessed delayed regenerative capabilities before Shanks and Lund ate him, then it could work. They would be restored to full health and fitness in a few weeks, giving them time to take the hits this episode, and be fully restored in two weeks. Simple (to me) and effective.
Always nice to see a revival of the 8-Bit Tie with Tom and Ryan.
No he didn't Mercer's ability to regenerate was based on consuming people. But his body was a walking virus that could take a lot of hits. Probably because it wasn't really a human body as it was a viral colony created from everyone he had consumed. After a while you do unlock regeneration though.
 

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I hate to be the personification of the gushing fan and utter this highly stereotypical line but,

"That was AWESOME! This show is getting better with every episode! I cannot wait to see what happens next!!!"

[sub]Heh heh, stupid Toad.[/sub]
 
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God Mode Disproval

Lund would never have had the problem with the rocket jump if they had God Mode on.

My Sane Theory

They're the protagonists. Toad's attacks are chipping away at their massive life bars. Tommy Vercetti can launch a helicopter into a skyscraper, explode, fall onto a car, explode and then walk away. Same for the two Michaels.
 

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Maybe they're in the training level, and hus get retries with infinite lives?

That's my theory anyway.

Great episode, by the way.
 

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W.....T.....F?

"Vita Chamber?"
"not yet"
great little teaser.

and why is liquid snake in the orange box?!?!

as for the invincibility i have no clue but makes another good question for future weeks
Liquid snake was just hiding in a box, much like his brother, Solid. That box just so happend to be an orange box. It's just a box, 'nuff said.

OT: God mode was denied, and the dice lord may or may not have whisked them away from rpg land, so I really don't know. Could be that they've accrued enough points to have a great deal of extra lives by this point.

EDIT:Might be an arcade reference. In an arcade you never die, so long as you've got quarters in your pockets. They might be losing money per death.
 

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His Small Guns skill is too low.
Wait... miniguns and flamethrowers are small guns now?

Hehe, "I'm a mighty, mighty man... I'm in my prime" -> Fallout 3 references. : ) I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable, logical explanation for why the Michaels are still alive; I'm more confused about the first bit. What was with that?

PS: Apologies for the smart-assery at the start.
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building


Answer: It's an internet series, it doesn't NEED to make sense...
You're probably right, but still... so many things were so obviously inaccurate. Don't get me wrong, I love the story about video games taking other earth. The points I made were technical. But yeah, it is a web series your right it doesn't need to be technically making any sense.

Edit: I changed my vote from god mode (after realizing it just can't be it from a hell lot of reasons) to: Toad is actually their ally although I am not sure... they did die last episode because he shot them... or did they faint? Anyway i think "Toad is an ally" theory makes sense, but so does the "Toad is a low level character" theory make sense to me

Edit (more editing actually): to those that are having a hard time understanding what I said (or rather-wrote), allow me to explain deeper. An illogical story parts are when something weird happens but is explained in a way that makes sense through the story like: they are still alive after being shot a lot (it would probably be explained in the next episode) and that games are taking other earth (it makes sense through the story). I have no problem with those; in fact I think it's awesome and great.

An illogical technical part is when they made something that doesn't make sense without any explanation, not mentioning why it happened or how, simply because they didn't notice it to be completely weird and senseless. Like when Shanks looked at his own forehead or when toad was carrying two loaded pistols, a meat cleaver, a fully loaded Mini gun and a flamer.

But I agree, there is no need to nitpick
 

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They probably have a health bar and all toad has done is just run that down, next episode if they get shot some more they should start glowing red and then be forced to sit in a corner somewhere to regen their health.
 

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Isn't it obvious? They are mighty mighty men, and their young and their in their primes.
 

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I would like to dispute the Alex Mercer theory.

It is clear that for a brief period they were - or, well, at the very least Lund was - under the effects of Mercer. A few episodes later, they make a point of Lund's speech going back to normal. Presumedly the effects wearing off?

However, my theory has a hole in it too. Maybe. It could go both ways. In the episode where Toad and Wario are introduced, the same episode as I remarked upon above, apparently Shanks should have been killed by the pong paddles but he just looks a little sore. Now, this could actually be the Alex Mercer durability for this period, or it could be that again Shanks is just too high level to die from Pong. (I mean, seriously, Pong has gotta be lower level than Toad even. Unless you count it being around since forever which should give it a very high level. One or the other). It seems unlikely that the series would include two plot-influencing invulnerability states... So, it could be Mercer, it could be level, it could even be something to do with Polybius for all we know.

I will stop theorising and await the evidence, patiently.
 

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benylor said:
Kalezian said:
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Uh... Hmmm...

I'm guessing you can't be killed by a non-agressive NPC?
or, Toad cant do any damage because he is a weakling, like Mario said.
I'd be inclined to believe this guy. Remember, video game laws. They were just recently in RPG land too, and this is common RPG territory.

The Michaels (sorry) are probably at like level 40 by final fantasy standards by now - they were able to directly challenge the Dice Lord and get the exposition out of him, but unable to hit him. 30 sounds roughly right to me, at least. In any case, their level is relatively high.

Toad, of course, is a little *****. Level 1, if that. If a 10-small guns skill Lone Wanderer shoots a Super Mutant Overlord with a The Terrible Shotgun, it's still going to do shit damage on account of the skill being so low, despite the animation being exactly the same as if the skill was higher.

Ergo, Toad is simply too low level to do any real damage.
I am having to edit my previous post, because I realized that my opinion has been stated twenty times better than I could put it. To be honest, I never thought about the RPG land theory. Though would they have been leveling up all along despite not being in that land?
 

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Loved the Fallout 3 reference.

"Maybe we're just mighty, mighty men."
"Well, I am young and in my prime."
 

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Perhaps it is a subtle hint at all the NPCs who can get shot to shit, pumped full of lead and char to a pile of ash yet still survive without a scratch.
 

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What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
whoa boy, calm down lol

but yeah one thing's for sure: they're messing with our heads =.=
until the next episode...whoo
 

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Kalezian said:
Nimbus said:
Uh... Hmmm...

I'm guessing you can't be killed by a non-agressive NPC?
or, Toad cant do any damage because he is a weakling, like Mario said.
it would put a spin on the RPG idea of "i have just slashed this guy 3 times, but just cos hes got a lot of health and i dont do mucc damage hes still alive"
 

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The Sorrow said:
1337mokro said:
The Sorrow said:
My guess is Alex Mercer powers.
Hey don't steal my posts.

Nah go ahead and do whatever you like.
Teehee.
Seriously though, that was my explanation even before discovering your wisdom.
I know so let's see if we are both right or if titch has the bull by the horns, 5 euro says they are haunted by Alex's spirit.

Titch007uk said:
Episode was a bit weak. I'm a little bit confused as how this show can come out with epic episodes like the Dicelord/Fear ones and then occasional have stupidly gory, childish in joke fests with a little bit of gamer humour thrown in for good mesure.

ANYWAY. WILD THEORY TIME: On the subject of invunerability.

1) God Mode. Unlikely, in the episode in which they activate god mode Lund and Shanks are blocked from leaving by a warning message. The implication is that they had to switch it off. More to the point, God Mode would trash any sense of dramatic tension and just plain be a cop out

2) Mercer Inverunerbility. I thought it was likely before. Less so now. Seeing as before the implication was that Lund got one gift and Shanks got another. Memory and Regeration respectively.

3) Micheal Poison backfiring. Plausible, but seems a bit...obscure. Seeing as there's been no futher referance to it since that episode.

4) Lund and Shanks stats being high in comparison to Toads. More likely, given the amount that 19 was talking about stats and there effect on events. The two snags I see with this is that the Dicelord didn't comment on their Constitution stat, only a very high luck. The other big drawback is that they aren't in RPG world any more, so the same rules might not apply any more. Toad it's an RPG gaming abstraction, which whilst it doesn't stop him from being a ***** means he can't really have stats.

5) No damage due to friendly fire. This fits nicely assuming they are on the same side for some unknown reason, given that the TF2 abstraction fits, the guns are the same. It's weird that they died from the first shots, but it could just be dramatic lisence.

I'm going with 4 or 5 right now. To me them being on the same team is the -most- likely possibility given that Toad really resents Mario/Luigi and it implies an allience with anyone else who has the same feeling.
 

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Just watched episode 2 and I've got to say, the acting has improved a lot since then.
 

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*snippetysnip*
In short- logic has left the building
I think that already happened when video game characters came to life and started to terrorize earth.
 

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Good ep guys, not the best but still pretty funny.

As for lund and shanks being still alive, i go with a mix of the mercer theory and fable 2.
Shanks did black out.. Maybe he's got a scar now. lol

Ether that or the world's broke and they need to contact customer support and submit a ticket.
 

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I was so hoping for Tom to have his own episode, hes awesome, sorry guys, he just beats you ;D

also phwoar...
 

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If there's a God cheat on or something, I guess it explains a lot like when Shanks was bounced around like a pong ball and when they were poisoned by Cooking Mama.
 

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God mode finally kicked in, I guess?
The Adventures of Tom and Ryan, hilarious.
Keep up the good work.
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.
It is probably because he is Toad. A typically non-aggressive NPC that relies on a fat Italian plumber to save his kingdom over and over again doesn't seem like the kind of person that would be a well trained gunman. It's atypical and seeing the little amount of talking he did with the Mario's, I'd say they don't know too much about him.
and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode
Do you really think they would go for something that obvious? I suppose it is possible, I would just expect them to be more creative. (Given, with the problem at the end of episode 2 not being resolved, it is likely that the answer would be god mode)
edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?
Video game characters are storming the streets and you are questioning the lack of realism...
Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?
It's hard out there for a mushroom. Gotta be prepared.
In short- logic has left the building
That's okay, it really had no place here. Also, that logic guy is kind of boring and ruined the last party I was at. Screw that guy.

OP: This episode kind of got me excited and then dropped me off at the end a little disappointed. I already figured they would still be alive, after all, that TF2 episode kind of proved they could suffer fatal injuries and live. What I wanted to know is why they were able to survive all of this and it looks like I'm going to have to wait till next week.
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.
It is probably because he is Toad. A typically non-aggressive NPC that relies on a fat Italian plumber to save his kingdom over and over again doesn't seem like the kind of person that would be a well trained gunman. It's atypical and seeing the little amount of talking he did with the Mario's, I'd say they don't know too much about him.
and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode
Do you really think they would go for something that obvious? I suppose it is possible, I would just expect them to be more creative. (Given, with the problem at the end of episode 2 not being resolved, it is likely that the answer would be god mode)
edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?
Video game characters are storming the streets and you are questioning the lack of realism...
Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?
It's hard out there for a mushroom. Gotta be prepared.
In short- logic has left the building
That's okay, it really had no place here. Also, that logic guy is kind of boring and ruined the last party I was at. Screw that guy.

OP: This episode kind of got me excited and then dropped me off at the end a little disappointed. I already figured they would still be alive, after all, that TF2 episode kind of proved they could suffer fatal injuries and live. What I wanted to know is why they were able to survive all of this and it looks like I'm going to have to wait till next week.
Two weeks, actually. It is a *****, but I suppose something gotta give.
 

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This is a good episode, but probably was the closest thing to a filler episode that I have seen in my life. So 8/10, when the episodes are usually 10/10 for me.
 

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Two weeks, actually. It is a *****, but I suppose something gotta give.
Don't be alarmed, that cracking noise is just the sound of my happy disposition shattering into a thousand pieces as I realize that it will practically be time for Halloween.
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
1.) Toad being a super soldier IS THE JOKE, come on really? Logic left the building when video game charactors entered the real world, this whole: The guy who everyone thinks sucks is actually amazing is a pretty standard gag, its not that weird.

2.) Shanks TRIED to look at his forehead, who's to say if he saw it successfully? His eyes looked up, is that impossible? No, I am doing it right now, did a little indicator pop up on the bottom of your screen saying: "Shanks successfully saw the bullet hole in his forehead by looking up"?

3.) Toad carrying so many weapons is another joke, I get its not completely logical, duh, whats the deal anyway? Its annoying when a non logical show tries to be logical in a certain aspect and fails, but this is just an example of a non logical show attempting to be nonlogical and succeeding.

If you don't like the nonlogical nature of the show, don't watch it, but my question is: "Why would you bring this up now at episode TWENTY!" there are like 10,000 other things before this, seriously.
 

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Mr Companion said:
Two weeks, actually. It is a *****, but I suppose something gotta give.
Don't be alarmed, that cracking noise is just the sound of my happy disposition shattering into a thousand pieces as I realize that it will practically be time for Halloween.
Thanks for clearing that up, I was wondering what that noise was...
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
1.) Toad being a super soldier IS THE JOKE, come on really? Logic left the building when video game charactors entered the real world, this whole: The guy who everyone thinks sucks is actually amazing is a pretty standard gag, its not that weird.

2.) Shanks TRIED to look at his forehead, who's to say if he saw it successfully? His eyes looked up, is that impossible? No, I am doing it right now, did a little indicator pop up on the bottom of your screen saying: "Shanks successfully saw the bullet hole in his forehead by looking up"?

3.) Toad carrying so many weapons is another joke, I get its not completely logical, duh, whats the deal anyway? Its annoying when a non logical show tries to be logical in a certain aspect and fails, but this is just an example of a non logical show attempting to be nonlogical and succeeding.

If you don't like the nonlogical nature of the show, don't watch it, but my question is: "Why would you bring this up now at episode TWENTY!" there are like 10,000 other things before this, seriously.
I already said in my second comment that I just love this series and the fact that it's story illogical in a funny and awesome way, the problems that I did have are technical illogical problems, and as I said before, it was just nitpicking.

I still think the fact is an extremely well trained soldier in this episode ruins the entire ***** and wimp about Toad.

It annoys me that you misunderstood most of the points I made, but I don't have the power or the will to explain them, and especially after I admitted I was nitpicking

Edit: why is everyone looking only at my first comment? Even those that commented after my second comment ignored it completely as if it doesn't exist and as if I never changed my opinion other my own annoying nitpicking and about the invincibility of the Michals?
 

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5) No damage due to friendly fire. This fits nicely assuming they are on the same side for some unknown reason, given that the TF2 abstraction fits, the guns are the same. It's weird that they died from the first shots, but it could just be dramatic lisence.
Except that they didn't die. They only passed out from shock. There are numerous cases where a subject passes out because the brain thinks they should have died. Who wouldn't think they were dead after getting shot in the head?

A similar effect take place with the onset of sleep, where the brain registers the slowdown in body metabolism, thinks the body has died, and responds by sending a jerk through the nervous system to check that the body is still alive.
 

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I don't know if anyone else noticed the Roy Brown Mighty Mighty Man reference, but I know I loved it.
 

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My theory is they have Alex mercer?s powers, you can't kill Alex Mercer he survived an attack by a tank.
Those who played [Prototype] know that Alex gains his claws by consuming a hunter.
Prototype rules kick ass
 

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Err, Toads attack power is so low even the bullets he fires does nothing?! Anyways, yet another good episode, love the show.
 

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OK, what the hell just happened in this episode? This is confusing...
 

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nice ep....
i wonder how many people got the 'prey reference...
keep it up.
bitchtits needs a bit more training!
 

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Titch007uk said:
5) No damage due to friendly fire. This fits nicely assuming they are on the same side for some unknown reason, given that the TF2 abstraction fits, the guns are the same. It's weird that they died from the first shots, but it could just be dramatic lisence.
Except that they didn't die. They only passed out from shock. There are numerous cases where a subject passes out because the brain thinks they should have died. Who wouldn't think they were dead after getting shot in the head?

A similar effect take place with the onset of sleep, where the brain registers the slowdown in body metabolism, thinks the body has died, and responds by sending a jerk through the nervous system to check that the body is still alive.
This. This man right here has it all figured out.
 

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Are you actually trying to apply logic to a comedy series about video games you found on the web?
 

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I think that we are seeing another effect of Michael poison...maybe.

Toad is still worthless.
what was the first effect??? did we see any affects???
 

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maybe its just toad....i mean all his real perpis in life is to say

'thank you mario but our prinnise is in another chassle'

and yes i did fuck up most of the spelling of most of the words...so FUCK YOU
 

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Heart of Darkness said:
I think that we are seeing another effect of Michael poison...maybe.

Toad is still worthless.
what was the first effect??? did we see any affects???
*shrug* I dunno. I kinda just attributed Lund getting Mercer's memories to the poison.

I could be wrong, though.
 

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im going with friendly fire off

maybe because he doesnt want to kill them but wants mario to repsect him...
so he wants but does not want wat he truly wants???
 

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I just realized:

The guy who plays Toad is the same guy who played the first zombie ALL THE WAY BACK in episode four. Ha! Bet they thought no one would notice, but I showed them!

Anyways, alright episode I guess but it's nowhere near as good as last weeks. It was basically just a pointless excursion to two bit characters, who die, and then 3 minutes of Toad getting beaten up in a way which seems to imply that the Michaels are complete jerks.
 

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I was so hoping for Tom to have his own episode, hes awesome, sorry guys, he just beats you ;D

also phwoar...
I know, Shanks and Lund suck, and they are bad friends too.
 

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That was a disappointment.

The entire episode was just an excuse for you to have that dramatic ending to episode 19. Also, it was really fucking short.

Kinda like episode 8.
 

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LegsyWegsy said:
I was so hoping for Tom to have his own episode, hes awesome, sorry guys, he just beats you ;D

also phwoar...
I know, Shanks and Lund suck, and they are bad friends too.
you have the most awesome voice ever concieved ever, and you say the best lines and play the best characters, so yeah
You > Them
 

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What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the buildin
kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
Don't overthink it. It's already not very logical that the virtual world would be invading the real world. I just enjoy every episode separately, loosely following the storyline.
 

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PHWOAR!

Excellent effects, as always, and its probably god mode since if it was from eating mercer their wounds would have closed up
 

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LegsyWegsy said:
satans_cow said:
LegsyWegsy said:
I was so hoping for Tom to have his own episode, hes awesome, sorry guys, he just beats you ;D

also phwoar...
I know, Shanks and Lund suck, and they are bad friends too.
you have the most awesome voice ever concieved ever, and you say the best lines and play the best characters, so yeah
You > Them
My throat was killing me after I did all that Dice Lord stuff. Wasn't fun, but I'll let Shanks and Lund know that they suck and I'm better than them.
 

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satans_cow said:
LegsyWegsy said:
satans_cow said:
LegsyWegsy said:
I was so hoping for Tom to have his own episode, hes awesome, sorry guys, he just beats you ;D

also phwoar...
I know, Shanks and Lund suck, and they are bad friends too.
you have the most awesome voice ever concieved ever, and you say the best lines and play the best characters, so yeah
You > Them
My throat was killing me after I did all that Dice Lord stuff. Wasn't fun, but I'll let Shanks and Lund know that they suck and I'm better than them.
please do
and tell them to do a CS:S episode, I am surprised they havent yet, what with the Valve fanboy thing
 

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Obviously, he's an ally and just doesn't realize it yet. You see, friendly fire was turned off. Obviously.
...Holy sh*t, that makes the most sense, if Godmode isn't it. Or it would, if they hadn't been shot out of a cannon, poisoned, and subject to deadly situations multiple times over.

It works for Toad, though. And it's original.
I'm going with Friendly Fire too. Can't wait to see Toad turn that firepower on the very camp Mario!
 

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It's pretty obvious why they haven't been killed.

They are now critical to the plot, and therefore cannot be killed. Only knocked unconscious a la Fallout 3.
 

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Wilbot666 said:
P.A. Master said:
Arbitrary Cidin said:
Obviously, he's an ally and just doesn't realize it yet. You see, friendly fire was turned off. Obviously.
...Holy sh*t, that makes the most sense, if Godmode isn't it. Or it would, if they hadn't been shot out of a cannon, poisoned, and subject to deadly situations multiple times over.

It works for Toad, though. And it's original.
I'm going with Friendly Fire too. Can't wait to see Toad turn that firepower on the very camp Mario!
Did you even read my post? I was saying it COULDN'T be FF, not that I agree with him.
 

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I believe that if u watch episode 19 you notice the sign to the resistance (he even points at it...) is V/I=R (c'mon, simple physics). Also the elevator has an image on it that looks like a body with some sort of shield (dunno whats made out of since it nullfies any damage effect of bullets and fire.) Either way is seems that they have entered the resistance room (lol), so anyone can resist anything. If they would of tried to kill toad they would have fail as well. What I do wonder is what the hell do V and I represent in this scenario. Anyway, I can haz cookie?
 
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why does everyone pick on TOAD?! BECAUSE THE S.O.B. got captured by Bowsers forces MORE than princes Peach.... and THATS saying something. you free his ass just to be captured within the span of going through the next three levels... and he did this 98 times! EVERY TIME Peache's lands got invaded.

If he's such a veteran then WHY didn't he help the un-military-trained plumber invade bowsers castles.
 
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you know, after the AWESOMENESS of the dice lord... the writing, special effects, cinematography, etc. I originally was really annoyed at the low quality of this one... however after looking at it again i respect them for doing it. They are basically saying that YES we can make it look pritty but we refuse to take ourselves far to SERIOUSLY, which is EXACTLY why you liked it in the first place.
 

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Excellent video, probably the best one so far. Love the dice masters voice, plot and special effects
 

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Some of you people read way too much into this...

** but if I had to choose friendly fire isn't a bad shout
 

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maybe, they survived because toad is so crap, that despite the awesome headshots, flamethrower, meatcleaver and everything else he cannot kill anyone because of his crappiness? THATS IT! IVE CRACKED THE DOOMSDAY CODE! that last part was for randomness
 

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kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the buildin
kozmo said:
What the hell was that!? the entire episode was weird. One of the weirdest things was the fact that they showed as in the episode that Toad is an extremely well trained soldier but yet from some reason, everyone think he is horrible. If it wasn't for the Michaels invincibility they would have died so many times and yet he is considered by everyone to be horribly untrained.

Seriously, did you see how fast he responded when he heard shanks? Did you see how fast he pooled out his gun and got direct hits to Shanks face even through his other hand was holding Lund and that his pistol was probably in his pocket or something? I have many other points about Toad, but the biggest point is-Toad isn't a wimp. He seems to be a war veteran but yet, from some reason he is considered a wimp.

That doesn't make sense.

and about the invincibility- I vote for god mode

edit: how did shanks look at his forehead, that's impossible, why did the new guys that were killed start screaming in horror after they were shot rather than screaming of pain? And of course there is to ask why did they scream the same before, during and after they were shot without the shot actually making a difference in the tone of the scream?

Why did toad carry so many weapons if in the last episode he was just leaving Mario that doesn't respect him, rather than just carry a pistol?

In short- logic has left the building
Don't overthink it. It's already not very logical that the virtual world would be invading the real world. I just enjoy every episode separately, loosely following the storyline.
he feels betrayed, offended even...religiously...obsessively =/
 

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i feel bad for toad, the actor does his job :D we'll definitely see more of that story arch