DotA Trash-Talking Results in Real-Life Beatdown

XT inc

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Oh man think of the smack talking that dude will do once he goes to civil court to collect on some maiming charges. " Whats that you broke my fingers I couldn't hear you over my alienware pc thumping into my bose surround and the mild clattering of my razer peripherals, mixing with the glare of my 40 inch 3DHDTV and the gentle squeek this padded leather recliner offers..."

seriously fucking with peoples hands is as bad as brain trauma. You lose those and there is very little out there for you to do.

Side note people still don't recognize gaming as the same level of competition as generic sports. Football shit talker gets beat up no one really cares video game trash talker gets beat up and its actual news.

Side Side note, The best way to shut up trash talkers in xbox live anyway is to trounce them wildly, laugh as you notice the 4 people who call you and your friends faggots all through the set up of the match hop into party chat.Then send them hilariously good-natured messages that will make them feel like shit.
 

xxcloud417xx

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I could see this type of answer towards a hacker, but this is pretty extreme for some kid with a big mouth and a cocky little attitude.

Like I said though, if I could track down the bastard who hacked my WoW account, I would most likely do something like this, if not worse. Those are the real cowardly bastards hiding behind the internet that deserve punishment. (Hacker son of a ***** would probs piss his pants too if he saw a real person coming to kick his sorry little ass)
 

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joebear15 said:
thepyrethatburns said:
joebear15 said:
you think this kid deserved to be crippled by a gang because of trash talk on DOTA, no not at all,

wow after reading this story I suddenly have the urged to go register a handgun before playing DOTA again wow do i love America for being able to make that statment.
Exaggerate much? If you really feel so threatened by what might happen to you on DOTA, I would suggest that you not run your mouth or give out personal information when you do so.

As for the kid, what is right and what is deserved are often two different things. For example, if Mark Hurd had been shot by one of the MANY employees that he laid off during his tenure as HP CEO, it wouldn't be right but I also wouldn't be able to say that he didn't deserve it. Was it right for the kid to get curb-stomped? No. Did he deserve it? Probably.
where to start ok first of all that last part was somthing of a joke no need to get pissy over it,2nd it would not matter if I gave out personal infromation if the 5 people coming to beat me up back trased my IP adress like these people did to find me.

2nd of that comparison does not even work a little bit,Mark Hurd took actions that potentionally ruined the lives of many many people or a least did then sever damagee finantially, this kid did no tangible damage to these 5 people except to their egos and if they were really that petty their probibly extremly dangreous people that need to be taken off the street before they kill someone for calling them a bad name.
Fair enough. I wasn't certain if you were serious with the gun comment so I treated it as such.

As for the IP address tracing, as far as I can see, there's nothing in either the Escapist story or the original story that discusses IP tracing. From the sound of it, they went to the same school. At the very least, they certainly lived in the same city. The rest goes back to "Don't say it online if you wouldn't say it to someone's face"....especially if you're going to the same school.

Firing someone does not make it right to shoot them. They may deserve to be shot but that doesn't make it right either morally or legally. Using the same "potentially" qualifier for the trash-talking argument, one of the opponents could have been the next Megan Meier and could have "potentially" killed themselves over the attacks. Using "potentially" as a qualifier is really just justifying a double standard. Thusly, I stand by my point. What is right and what is deserved are two different things. It was not right for him to get curb-stomped but he almost certainly deserved it.
 

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I'm a bit curious now. This goes out mostly to Americans but others are invited to weigh in.

Given that your own justices have stated that hate crimes cause greater individual and societal harm and, last year, President Obama did expand the law to provide for gender and gender orientation, it would seem that the majority of Americans would agree that trash-talking with a racist/homophobic bent is far worse than if he were just talking trash.

If the trash-talker's comments had been either racially motivated or homophobic, would you still say he didn't deserve being curb-stomped? (Yes, I know DOTA isn't on Xbox Live but that doesn't mean that such insults are exclusive to Live.) I'm not talking about whether it was morally/legally right. I'm asking whether you would be more inclined to say that the kid deserved a curb-stomping if he were spouting racist/homophobic comments or whether it wouldn't matter.
 

ENKC

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If anything, my trash talking is WORSE with real people. I'd definitely say those things to their face.
 

Spacemike

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I'm curious as to how they ended up tracking him down. Did they know him in real life? Did the kid give away where he went to school along with a bunch of personal information during one of his online tirades?
 

lolson82

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The kid who beat him up was a former student at the school. He simply asked around for the real user of the handle in game and got a name. Connections.. connections connections
 

ffs-dontcare

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They broke his fingers?

Well, that's what happens when you abuse said fingers by talking shit to people online for no reason.
 

The Hairminator

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This just in: DOTA IS EXTREMELY FUCKING SERIOUS BUSINESS!

I mean it, kids. If you have tried it you know how serious the established players are about it.
 

GestaltEsper

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On the one hand, it's nice to see trash-talkers getting some form of retribution for their actions. Some people need to learn that yes, words have weight to them and no matter how many people shout "It's just a game" or "grow a thicker skin or gtfo" anyone can be set off by someone else's words.
On the other, this seems kind of extreme. Seriously? Making the kid kiss your feet and then breaking fingers? Just showing up and scaring the kid would've been fine but this? Not cool.
 

MetalGenocide

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Breaking the guy's fingers? Really? Slap him in the face. Kick him once, twice maybe, yell a lot. Fine.
Insult is enough.
Insult to injury is too much.

"I guess some people take these things exceptionally seriously."
Yeah, funny how people react when you trash talk them.

I play the game myself and I know what kind of honest to goodness shit, people tend to spout when they are angry or just to piss of the opponent.

"Most people can separate reality from online fiction."
I really don't like what she implies here. The incident happened due to verbal abuse, not due to addiction of any kind.