DotA Trash-Talking Results in Real-Life Beatdown

Ithera

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Well well well, looks like Mr Trash talk got some well deserved feedback on his "choice words" on his opponents performance. While I approve of some punishing, wrecking his fingers is a bit extreme.

Oh well, I guess he will be choosing his words more carefully in the future. Remember folks, you don't insult strangers at the pool table and you shouldn't do it online.
 

Andy Chalk

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For all the people who think I'm waving the pom-pons for the guys who beat up this kid:

I don't condone violence. I especially don't condone violence over something as trivial as getting beat at a videogame. I said it in the article and I'm saying it here. I'm not sure how much clearer I can be.

I also live in a world in which actions have consequences. It's not a perfect pretendy-world where nothing bad ever happens at random and people never overreact to the stupidity of their fellow humans. It adds up to some pretty douchey situations at times. But that's the way it is.

If you choose to be an asshole, then you shouldn't be too surprised if you attract the attention of other assholes.
 

Asehujiko

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Scrythe said:
Having said that, I'd like to hunt these guys down and give them a medal. They've done what almost all of us wish we'd had the balls to admit that we'd like to do: track down smug little shit-talking 12 year olds and break their goddamned fingers.
Yes, injuring somebody in a way that very likely results in a permanent disability is exactly the thing to do when somebody says something you don't like.

Can I bash your head in for your ignorance now?
 

SimpleReally

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I don't understand why some people say it's just a game and it's separate from real life, those are real people behind the monitor and he probably said some very offensive things to make them bother tracking him down. If it was a game of basketball and he trash talked them to their face nobody would have felt sorry for him getting beaten up.

OT: i wonder which hero he was playing
 

The Last Nomad

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I like how the Vancouver Constable didn't jump up and down screaming about video games being responible for this act of violence like most people do when video games are somehow involved with an act of violence. In fact he almost stands up for gaming with that statement he made.

I dunno if the guy deserved what he got, some trash talkers do deserve a bit of a beatdown though, but maybe not as extreme as broken fingers.
 

Retardinator

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Unfortunately, I don't get the feeling that he'll serve as an example to all trash-talking 12 year olds.
 

Asuka Soryu

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How mature, you can't take trash talk so you solve your conflict by hunting the person down and humiliating them, breaking the law a damaging a person physicaly and mentaly. There's no excuse you can use to justify such a response to "negative" comments. This is neaderthal level, and who ever those 5 losers were, they just made gamers look worse. Sure some will shrug this off, but other people will say: "beating and humiliating someone for trashtalking you on a game? This is good solid proof that games are ruining peoples minds and making them more violent".


You see the dumb twats who go off and beat someone up over f!ing moronic comments only accomplish to tarnish the names of gamers who don't get violent over things like this, making us all look like freaks who think are games are life. Really, I'd hope these idiots get caught and rightfuly punished, as there's no solid arguement for what they've done to someone, in the name of not being able to deal with someone annoying.

I just hope this doesn't have any adverse effects on the Gaming community.



"There are some emotions that seem to be amplified in the online world," "Things that happen on the Internet that affect your status can be very serious."


He's not the only one who'll think that, and it won't be long before more games fall under such categories as long as nimrods like this exist.


Yes, the kid was wrong and annoying. Big deal? Grow up.
 

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ZehGeek said:
Andy Chalk said:
"I guess some people take these things exceptionally seriously," said Constable Lindsey Houghton of the Vancouver Police. "It's something that is exceptionally rare, given the number of people who play videogames. Most people can separate reality from online fiction."
Wow, someone in a officer position actualy makes a good point, and not blaming everyone. There's hope. ._.
Indeed, I was rather shocked to read that... imagine that, someone in a position of power not attacking videogames at the first opportunity... very strange.

Personally I'm against violence in almost all forms, but honestly people online need to relearn their manners, don't act like a jerk and the odds of getting your ass kicked are drastically reduced.
 

mattaui

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It's very true that a lot of people (kids and adults) talk trash online that they'd never do in public, but even if someone insults you to your face in public, you've not got much of a leg to stand on if you break their jaw, morally or legally. There is still the concept of 'fighting words' to be sure, but that doesn't really hold much water here, since these kids had to track down their victim and then engaged in what amounts to torture ending in maiming.

There sure are a lot of people in this thread that condone physical violence against people they disagree with. That's a shame.
 

Oliver Pink

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While trash talking is a Stupid thing to do in-game... it's not actually hurting people.

This kid didn't deserve his fingers broken just for being a douche on a video game.

Games are where we go to vent our frustrations, or relax...
 
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Just another example of the inclusiveness of the DOTA community.

I say with certainty that the DOTA community by far the most unfriendly community than any other on the internet.

Infact I challenge anyone to find an example of a community more unfriendly. SA, 4chan, Counterstike, Eve online - all much more accessable.
 

bad_dog14

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They didn't kick his ass because of the game, they kicked his ass because he was fuckin' trash talking. So, I guess he got what he deserved (well, they overreacted when they broke his fingers, they just should have punched him in the face to teach him a lesson).
 

Xanthious

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Andy Chalk said:
For all the people who think I'm waving the pom-pons for the guys who beat up this kid:

I don't condone violence. I especially don't condone violence over something as trivial as getting beat at a videogame. I said it in the article and I'm saying it here. I'm not sure how much clearer I can be.

I also live in a world in which actions have consequences. It's not a perfect pretendy-world where nothing bad ever happens at random and people never overreact to the stupidity of their fellow humans. It adds up to some pretty douchey situations at times. But that's the way it is.

If you choose to be an asshole, then you shouldn't be too surprised if you attract the attention of other assholes.
Here, allow me to condone it and wave the pom-poms then by all means. It's little pricks like those idiots with the broken fingers that make Xbox Live, and most other forms of online play, the cesspool that it is today. The more of them that end up seeing the unpleasant consequences of their actions the better. Maybe, just maybe, it will teach them some manners.
 

Azaraxzealot

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does this mean that i can genuinely get people to shut the fuck up with their trash talk if i say "if you dont shut the fuck up ill get some friends to come to you and break your fingers you little shit!" :D

*angels singing*

YESSSS!!!! (so sorry that it was that kid who had to start this... but SOMEONE had to >:D)
 

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Asehujiko said:
Scrythe said:
Having said that, I'd like to hunt these guys down and give them a medal. They've done what almost all of us wish we'd had the balls to admit that we'd like to do: track down smug little shit-talking 12 year olds and break their goddamned fingers.
Yes, injuring somebody in a way that very likely results in a permanent disability is exactly the thing to do when somebody says something you don't like.

Can I bash your head in for your ignorance now?
This is the part where I'm supposed to tear apart your argument and whatnot, but instead I'm just going to only point out the contradiction in your post that proved my point. Then I'm going to chuckle to myself and then completely forget that you exist in a couple of minutes, halfway through my morning coffee.

Cheers, mate.
 

Littlee300

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Well if they just stole his computer then this would be a awesome story but these people went too far, and a lot of the escapist says the kid deserved it

Fucking creepy man o_O
Scrythe said:
Asehujiko said:
Scrythe said:
Having said that, I'd like to hunt these guys down and give them a medal. They've done what almost all of us wish we'd had the balls to admit that we'd like to do: track down smug little shit-talking 12 year olds and break their goddamned fingers.
Yes, injuring somebody in a way that very likely results in a permanent disability is exactly the thing to do when somebody says something you don't like.

Can I bash your head in for your ignorance now?
This is the part where I'm supposed to tear apart your argument and whatnot, but instead I'm just going to only point out the contradiction in your post that proved my point. Then I'm going to chuckle to myself and then completely forget that you exist in a couple of minutes, halfway through my morning coffee.

Cheers, mate.
Is that a pride save? When we are 12 we do stupid things, anything that can be permanent for those stupid things is usually unfair, especially if it is just negative text.
 

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rembrandtqeinstein said:
Anton P. Nym said:
The gang was wrong to beat the kid up. The kid was wrong to run his mouth.
I'm sure the next time you or someone you care about is seriously injured by a hooligan who thinks violence is an acceptable solution to problems of interpersonal relations you can take comfort in knowing you did your part to help create an atmosphere where aggressor felt justified because the victim did something "wrong".
He isn't saying that one action justifies another. He's saying life has frakking consequences. If I went up and began talking shit to someone I was playing a game with in real life, I mean really saying some foul stuff, then you know what? I might get the guy angry enough to kick my ass. Would that be right? No. Words, even at their worst, don't merit an ass-kicking. Would it be unforseen? Hell no. People have gotten their asses handed to them, even killed, for saying the wrong damn thing to the wrong damn person. Is it right? No. Is it something you could figure out after about five minutes on any schoolyard anywhere in the world? Yes.

Now, were they right in doing this? Hell no. They MAIMED another human being, on top of humiliating him. They deserve to be strung up as an example of where escalation inevitably leads to, and to remove the kind of scum from the world that would do this. But let's not act like the kid wasn't whacking the same hornet's nest everyone does online when they decide to talk the kind of talk no sane man would say to another man's face. He was just the unlucky SOB that finally got the hornets moving. Doesn't make him lilly-white, but it doesn't take away from the pitch-black of the crime they committed.

In short, the gang was wrong to beat the kid up. The kid was wrong to run his mouth. Does that help?