Dragon Age 2 Disappears From Steam

[VulakAerr]

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who assume this is EA pulling their games from Steam. Isn't it equally likely that it's Valve pulling games that are available on Origin?

 

[JediMB]

I also won't be getting Origin because I don't want to have to run even more software in the background.

You don't have to run the Origin client in the background. The only time you'll ever need to have it open is when you purchase or download a game through it.

If you disable the Origin overlay there won't even be a trace left of the client when you run your game.

 

[Dragonborne88]

I said the beginning of the downfall, not the downfall itself.

EA's service may not be up to Steam standards but if that is the only place people can get digital versions of their favorite games then people will use it. Especially if the physical copies require EA's service too (a tactic Valve used as well).

Steam has had it's dominance but I think that's coming to an end in favor of each publisher having their own download service. It sucks, I agree but I think that's the direction things are going.

I can only pray that gamers are dedicated enough to reign themselves in and not buy, even if it is a title they like, if they don't like the service/company/product. Each publisher having their own distribution service isn't good for gaming, it'll ruin it. They can bring their prices to whatever they want because hell, "Only we have it. Good luck getting it anywhere else".

Just my thoughts on the matter. If gamers are able to show EA that a Publisher dedicated service is a terrible idea, it'll bring better competition in the future. If EA made a service EXACTLY the same idea as STEAM, selling games from all companies, even competition, and lowering prices, I'd be all for it. This publisher only garbage is so greedy it makes my head hurt.

 

[Azev2000]

This is exactly what is happening. EA already made a public announcement that it was VALVE's decision to remove Crysis 2 off steam (I'm sure the same applies to this). Steam is Valves Cash cow and they are now using there pull even if it is not the best thing for the consumer.

 

[JediMB]

STEAM serves as a huge community thing too, not just a digital distribution service. I love using it to talk with friends while playing games. Origin and most other services don't do that.

Origin does that. There's an optional Steam-esque overlay feature, and a chat feature.

But then I also only have two friends who actually "use" the damn thing besides me, so the chat feature becomes redundant and I've just gone ahead and disabled the overlay.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

*Looks at his Xbox copies of Dragon Age and Mass Effect*

*Smiles smugly*

Yeah, that?s all I really have to say.

From my understanding, Valve doesn?t like the in game DLC thing or something like that. So why is Dragon Age still up?

 

[Centrophy]

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who assume this is EA pulling their games from Steam. Isn't it equally likely that it's Valve pulling games that are available on Origin?

Doubtful, considering they're not pulling games that are available on Impulse, D2D, GoG and other online services. It's just seems obvious to me that both of these companies have problems with each other. All I know is that I won't be buying ME3 if it's an Origin exclusive. I "own" 3 games off of Origin (formerly EADM) and they barely worked thanks to their crazy DRM. I liked Pro Street too...

 

[SlayerN]

I really hope Microsoft see what EA is doing and tries to do the same with GFWL, That way we'll have something real to worry about. When EA doesn't hit their expected 11 million sales on Battlefield 3, they may find that a compromise will have better results or at least do what Microsoft has done with GFWL in some of their recent titles; require an origin account, but run and update through steam.

I have used and have games on/from: Steam, GFWL, Origin, Direct to drive, Impulse, and Gamer's Gate. out of all of these services Steam is by far the better, especially with the improved download speed. Origin is nice but normal sales they have can't compete with direct to drive, steam, or even impulse.

 

[Gideon Sharp]

Dragon age 2 disappears from Stream?
and nothing of value was lost

 

[Akihiko]

I think we may be seeing the beginning of the downfall of Steam. That sort of pisses me off too but that's the result of each publisher having their own download service, it sets up a sort of monopoly.

It's like if EA owned Target, they wouldn't want to sell their games at Wal Mart as that would compete against them.

I dunno. STEAM serves as a huge community thing too, not just a digital distribution service. I love using it to talk with friends while playing games. Origin and most other services don't do that. Plus, most aren't going to have the sales that STEAM pulls off. I think, once the Publishers start seeing how hard it is to break into that market with how loyal STEAM users are, they'll drop the idea. They'll start losing tons of money if only they offer it. PC gamers are very fickle about having multiple services running at once (I am at least, I'd PRAY that others are too).

I said the beginning of the downfall, not the downfall itself.

EA's service may not be up to Steam standards but if that is the only place people can get digital versions of their favorite games then people will use it. Especially if the physical copies require EA's service too (a tactic Valve used as well).

Steam has had it's dominance but I think that's coming to an end in favor of each publisher having their own download service. It sucks, I agree but I think that's the direction things are going.

The fun thing is back when Steam first launched, the software was buggy, clunky and just a downright pain to have running in the background. However, they improved on it, and I'm sure EA will improve on Origin.

The prices however, that's another thing entirely. If they continue to charge £40 for PC games, people certainly aren't going to buy from them.

*Looks at his Xbox copies of Dragon Age and Mass Effect*

*Smiles smugly*

Yeah, that?s all I really have to say.

From my understanding, Valve doesn?t like the in game DLC thing or something like that. So why is Dragon Age still up?

Apparently, Valve changed their terms when they started putting F2P games on Steam. Not 100% sure though.

 

[Plazmatic]

I think we may be seeing the beginning of the downfall of Steam. That sort of pisses me off too but that's the result of each publisher having their own download service, it sets up a sort of monopoly.

It's like if EA owned Target, they wouldn't want to sell their games at Wal Mart as that would compete against them.

Except target does not manufacture games, and this is not the downfall of steam, just the downfall of stocks over at EA, when share holders (like my self) see that they lose money with Origin.

Look unlike other products on the market, you cant exactly have any thing BUT a monopoly when it comes to things like steam. You have all your games on steam, you don't want to have another thing that only houses some of your games, that you have to boot up ALONG WITH STEAM or have the hassle to also close steam to run this digital distribution application, and then play those games, it simply isn't practical. No one wants 30 steam copy cats running at the same time.

Also Origin will always suck because it is run by a company with public investments, where as Valve is private, and doesn't give a shit what a bunch of people who just want to get a big return on their investments say, and will do the right thing, not the thing that fucks over the customer to make lots of money.

 

[Azev2000]

EA has stated that it wants there games on every platform possible. It was VALVE's choice to remove those games from steam.

 

[Quellan Thyde]

Meh, let EA have their tantrums. DA isn't even that good.

I'm all for letting EA look like the jerk again, not that they need much assistance -- and DA never floated my boat either. I just hope this little ripple isn't the start of a massive tsunami of cloud-based BS, or that soon we'll all be looking back dreamily on the days when we actually owned the applications we use.

 

[Incomer]

Competition should push the prices down, which should be good for customer.
Bad thing is that EA won't release their games on Steam making us use Origin, cheating its way around said competition. I don't know if you guys been checking it [origin] but I personally just don't like it, it's clumsy, expensive (haven't seen a single special deals so far) and non-responsive (Steam seems to be communicating with you, Origin is "cold").

 

[Albino Boo]

Meh, let EA have their tantrums. DA isn't even that good.

I'm all for letting EA look like the jerk again, not that they need much assistance -- and DA never floated my boat either. I just hope this little ripple isn't the start of a massive tsunami of cloud-based BS, or that soon we'll all be looking back dreamily on the days when we actually owned the applications we use.

You never have owned the applications, you just bought the right to use them.

 

[Epona]

I think we may be seeing the beginning of the downfall of Steam. That sort of pisses me off too but that's the result of each publisher having their own download service, it sets up a sort of monopoly.

It's like if EA owned Target, they wouldn't want to sell their games at Wal Mart as that would compete against them.

Except target does not manufacture games, and this is not the downfall of steam, just the downfall of stocks over at EA, when share holders (like my self) see that they lose money with Origin.

Look unlike other products on the market, you cant exactly have any thing BUT a monopoly when it comes to things like steam. You have all your games on steam, you don't want to have another thing that only houses some of your games, that you have to boot up ALONG WITH STEAM or have the hassle to also close steam to run this digital distribution application, and then play those games, it simply isn't practical. No one wants 30 steam copy cats running at the same time.

Also Origin will always suck because it is run by a company with public investments, where as Valve is private, and doesn't give a shit what a bunch of people who just want to get a big return on their investments say, and will do the right thing, not the thing that fucks over the customer to make lots of money.

If EA owned Target then Target would manufacture games. Next time don't go outside the scope of an example to mount an argument against that example.

 

[Omnific One]

Problem is, this isn't a big problem. Anyone who likes Bioware enough to purchase this game at full price already has done so, and the rest, me included, were just waiting for a $10 sale on it. So no big loss.

Crysis 2, on the other hand, as well as BF3, that's something different.

 

[Big Bad Goat]

EA published Valve games for retail. Maybe Valve pulled out of this deal and what we're seeing is some form of retaliation.

 

[Hristo Tzonkov]

To be honest Steam isn't exactly any good apart from the sales and if EA has them I say let them have this gang war.I'm not boycotting either because I want to pretend I'm really pretentious.

 

[cerebus23]

Either way it will be an interesting test to see how their games sell on steam vs their origin service, steam is the veteran in this fight origin is the new kid, EA does not have to sell as many units on origin as they would have to on steam to turn a profit, vs how many they lose to steam only people.

That is if valve or ea will release the DD numbers at all for either service.