I find it very amusing that the OP calls out the sequel for being generic, because DA:O is a completely original work.
Dragon Age 2... WTF???
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First off I loved both ME1 and 2.
Second off the best thing about DAO is bioware were taking a crack recreating baldur's gate, arguably the best rpg made.
OK so while DAO was good it wasn't that good, without the dnd rule system the game mechanics where a bit unbalanced and the world felt less vivid at least it was a good first attempt.
As far as the character customization? If you really want that load up a copy of sims, I actually found it a bit of a distraction. Its a roleplaying game not dress up.
That said bioware haven't really said that is going away, just like they haven't really said you cant play a elf or a dwarf. They have just said your characters name will be Hawke.
Second off the best thing about DAO is bioware were taking a crack recreating baldur's gate, arguably the best rpg made.
OK so while DAO was good it wasn't that good, without the dnd rule system the game mechanics where a bit unbalanced and the world felt less vivid at least it was a good first attempt.
As far as the character customization? If you really want that load up a copy of sims, I actually found it a bit of a distraction. Its a roleplaying game not dress up.
That said bioware haven't really said that is going away, just like they haven't really said you cant play a elf or a dwarf. They have just said your characters name will be Hawke.
No they've said in their 5 things about Hawke article that Hawke will be human, and will start as a refugee from Lothering.Luke Cartner said:
Theres also the chance that there not taking anything away and that while hawke is there you still have another charachter of your own say a side charachter or something
theres lots of ways it could turn out and well have to w8 and see if there right
but yeah in my mind molding my own charachter is the core of most RPG's
plus its a guy i tend not to use male avatars in my games because id rather have something that isnt a giant ball of muscle to look at
i hope that it has the same qualitys that made the first one great it would seem wrong for them not to do it that way in my mind but hey maybe the console test audiences need a Tough looking hero and thats what biowares giving them
while origins was customised for the PC there still making there money in the consoles
theres lots of ways it could turn out and well have to w8 and see if there right
but yeah in my mind molding my own charachter is the core of most RPG's
plus its a guy i tend not to use male avatars in my games because id rather have something that isnt a giant ball of muscle to look at
i hope that it has the same qualitys that made the first one great it would seem wrong for them not to do it that way in my mind but hey maybe the console test audiences need a Tough looking hero and thats what biowares giving them
while origins was customised for the PC there still making there money in the consoles
No, they've explictly stated that you have to be human.Luke Cartner said:
You know I think I'm just going to give up on Bioware now. Each game I hope that they've spent more time and effort on a good story or improved quest design and what do I get? Enslaveing nations with necromancy and fight like a Spartan.
My first reaction when I heard there was going to be a sequel was "Yay" I thought it would be a follow on to the original. But when I actually read the info I lost interest completely.
I quite like ME1 and ME2 for different reasons but DA is such a good game I don't understand why they have to simplify it and make it like ME2.
The one thing that really annoys me about ME1 and ME2 is the use of the character's surname in every other bit of dialogue, who talks like that in real life? It just seems unnecessary, you should be able to choose your own character name and have people talk to you normally. By the sounds of it this is going to happen in DA2 as they're calling the character Hawke
I quite like ME1 and ME2 for different reasons but DA is such a good game I don't understand why they have to simplify it and make it like ME2.
The one thing that really annoys me about ME1 and ME2 is the use of the character's surname in every other bit of dialogue, who talks like that in real life? It just seems unnecessary, you should be able to choose your own character name and have people talk to you normally. By the sounds of it this is going to happen in DA2 as they're calling the character Hawke
"Discover a whole realm rendered in stunning detail with updated graphics and a new visual style."
Not to mention this. Alright, just look at the concept and cover art then read that..... Shit.
http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/09/five-facts-about-hawke-in-dragon-age-ii.aspx
This should piss everyone off as well, but at least the voice acting is there. I am really annoyed at the "iconic" look thing though, in Mass Effect because they put so much focus on making Shepard "beautiful" there wasn't any genuinely good customisation options. It does say think like a general and fight like a spartan though, so we'll either be able to comfortably order around ally's or we'll have to do the annoying as hell unit ordering thing like at the end of Origins. The fight like a spartan part is promising though, it will either mean flashier animations, smoother attacks or, hopefully, actual control over Hawke's attacks.
Not to mention this. Alright, just look at the concept and cover art then read that..... Shit.
http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/09/five-facts-about-hawke-in-dragon-age-ii.aspx
This should piss everyone off as well, but at least the voice acting is there. I am really annoyed at the "iconic" look thing though, in Mass Effect because they put so much focus on making Shepard "beautiful" there wasn't any genuinely good customisation options. It does say think like a general and fight like a spartan though, so we'll either be able to comfortably order around ally's or we'll have to do the annoying as hell unit ordering thing like at the end of Origins. The fight like a spartan part is promising though, it will either mean flashier animations, smoother attacks or, hopefully, actual control over Hawke's attacks.
A lot of the popular games are over hyped to the point where it will never live up to what people say it is, so instead of just being a decent or good game, the over hype makes it a bad game. I could care less about Dragon Age 2. I'm not going to be buying it because Dragon Age has become less of a game and more of a chore. It was really hard to get into, then for a week I was addicted to it and played about 24 hours in that week, then completely lost all interest in the game. Now I'm trying to play it again and it is just bland and boring. Plus it is a bit too far on the fantasy side for me to tolerate...Nimzabaat said:
Personally I'm annoyed because all of my work in origins was pointless as my character doesn't matter because Hawke is going to be the most important character from now on even if they continue the origins story.
I'll agree with you on this one, Furburt.Furburt said:
Problem is, I'm not playing it if I have to play as a certain character; that's what Mass Effect is for.
Seriously, I don't want to be handed an origin story. I want to make my own origin story; like Baldur's Gate 1 did for Baldur's Gate 2.
That was the point. The game was even called Dragon Age: Origins.Nimzabaat said:
They're taking the new game in a new direction and for that, I applaud BioWare. Most would just make a carbon copy of the game with a new, prettier wrapper. But not them.
I don't necessarily think that there will be a choice of different origin opening sequences to play through. But i do think that the player will be given the means to define who their character is before the quest starts proper.JEBWrench said:
We know that Hawke escaped the Blight, and we know that he became a Champion (and that this fact is quite important to the game). There is a lot of room to define Hawke between these two events; i think that this period of time could be considered his "origin".
As i said earlier, it seems to me as though there are many ways to become this Champion, and give your character a history or backstory in doing so.
I'm not worried about him being as pre-set of a character as Commander Shepard is my main point. This seems to be a major concern among some fans.
Hey i loved ME2 and ME1 both amazing games but anyways, I agree with DA2. I loved having an orign,and having a different story then my friend. Since he chose city elf, and i chose lord dwarf. It was great how our stories were different.And i dont need a new DA like I dont need a new Fallout. SInce i sitllpla both to this day.
Bioware is dumbing down their games to try and line their pockets. They dont "listen to the fans" anymore, they only listen to their greed. If you read some of the smug dev comments on the boards youll realise what a bunch of arrogant posers these prats are.
Dont hold out much hope for DA2. I certainly dont hold out hope for ME3 after I saw the dumbed down trash it got turned into with ME2.
Dont hold out much hope for DA2. I certainly dont hold out hope for ME3 after I saw the dumbed down trash it got turned into with ME2.
I thinks it's cute that people believe that a forum post "pushes" your thoughts into their feeble little minds. It is an opinion exressed to try to obtain intelligent discourse on a subject. That's a forum.
I do however, have to eat a bit of crow (does anyone still know what that means). I had stated earlier that I was 100% on my gut feelings. That is not true and I now regret saying that. I had high hopes for ME2 and was greatly dissappointed. (I know there are people who liked ME2 better. I know there are people who didn't. I've gotten lots of comments on both sides and that argument won't be won by adding additional generic comments.) So I have been wrong once before and I hope I am wrong about DA2.
Maybe Morrigan will reappear with a creepy CELL SHADED twig arm!
I do however, have to eat a bit of crow (does anyone still know what that means). I had stated earlier that I was 100% on my gut feelings. That is not true and I now regret saying that. I had high hopes for ME2 and was greatly dissappointed. (I know there are people who liked ME2 better. I know there are people who didn't. I've gotten lots of comments on both sides and that argument won't be won by adding additional generic comments.) So I have been wrong once before and I hope I am wrong about DA2.
Maybe Morrigan will reappear with a creepy CELL SHADED twig arm!
Sigh... DA's story was really not that great. It was the most mediocre story I have seen in a Bioware game. "Gather an army" is not really an exciting enough reason to go from point A to point B on the minimap. It's boring. It feels like a chore. Stuff needs to be happening in games like that, exciting stuff, CONSTANTLY. They got that right with Mass Effect and Kotor, and of course Baldur's Gate 2 was the deepest and most atmospheric and immersive game they ever made. But DA flopped it, sorry. It was bland, it was generic and it was fully predictable from the first ten minutes of gameplay, and the different origins added very little. If they think that they can't handle telling a great story from a multitude of angles, then sticking to one character is the right thing to do.
DA2 smacks of "Crap we made too many player decisions to account for in the first one, quick think of way to make a new game in the series that will let us completely ignore DA1 and DA:A."
