We should be pissed regardless. And it's only a matter of time if it's not going to be in SP already.DirgeNovak said:
Dragon Age Inquisition will have Microtransactions
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Do you really think you would need to grind 100+ hours if there were no microtransactions? How long to you think it will be before it becomes a 1000 hours and than 10,000 hours? Looking at Dungeon Keeper this isn't even a exaggeration....jklinders said:
You're spinning this your own way here, it's for MP only.
Though I hate that it is RNG. A game can have DLC or even offer map packs and other stuff for multiplayer for sale. If it's worth buying. With a lottery system you don't know that, therefore it causes frustrations.
I personally won't buy in on it.
Though I hate that it is RNG. A game can have DLC or even offer map packs and other stuff for multiplayer for sale. If it's worth buying. With a lottery system you don't know that, therefore it causes frustrations.
I personally won't buy in on it.
Something something, slippery slope fallacy something.disgruntledgamer said:
Gad, I thought this might be a gameplay element that people would play for the, oh I don't know, enjoyment of it. But I guess it's OK to grind out for dozens or hundreds of hours for crap in an MMO but not this right? And in MMOs you often have to pay just to get into that grind.
People can be awfully selective about what they get up in arms about can't they?
If you want to believe that slippery slope is there, great I'm happy for you. I won't be in that chapel.
If it the same model as ME3´s multiplayer then I have no problem with it. The mode was unexpectedly entertaining and I never did pay a dime. The main problem for me personaly is the random nature of the loot in the crates you would buy because it just leads to frustration when you have to grind for a "chance" to get the item you actually want.
In regards to everyone talking about "grinding", I don't see how that really applies here. The way I see it, grinding is when you have to do the same thing over and over in order to eventually be able to progress with the game, e.g. in MMOs when you have to kill 140,000 goblins to get enough XP to progress to the next zone or whatever.
But here that doesn't apply. Here, you play because of the playing itself, not to progress. Like in the ME3 multiplayer, I played that hours upon hours not because I "needed" to unlock all the unlockables, I played it because it was fun playing it. The unlockable content is just something extra, something that gives the gameplay a bit more variety, it's not something you need to play the game. Sure, there might be that one special weapon or character you really want, but if the MP has no value for you unless you get that one specific character, I don't see how it can have much value even when you get it.
Sure, go ahead and decry the presence of microtransaction on the grounds that it will add so much grinding to the game. But then also go and complain about the grinding in every MP game ever, because they all work the same - you do the same thing over and over again. Not because you need to, but because you think it's fun.
Personally, I'm not going to spend a single actual coin in the store, just enjoy all the extra free content I get thanks to those who do.
But here that doesn't apply. Here, you play because of the playing itself, not to progress. Like in the ME3 multiplayer, I played that hours upon hours not because I "needed" to unlock all the unlockables, I played it because it was fun playing it. The unlockable content is just something extra, something that gives the gameplay a bit more variety, it's not something you need to play the game. Sure, there might be that one special weapon or character you really want, but if the MP has no value for you unless you get that one specific character, I don't see how it can have much value even when you get it.
Sure, go ahead and decry the presence of microtransaction on the grounds that it will add so much grinding to the game. But then also go and complain about the grinding in every MP game ever, because they all work the same - you do the same thing over and over again. Not because you need to, but because you think it's fun.
Personally, I'm not going to spend a single actual coin in the store, just enjoy all the extra free content I get thanks to those who do.
That's actually pretty ironic considering the slippery slope EA has been on with microtransactions.jklinders said:
I told you I will not be in that chapel with you believing in this nonsense. When I see them become mandatory you will have a point but right now they are only a threat to the weak minded. I am not one of the weak minded, therefore I have no fear of this.disgruntledgamer said:
BTW, Dungeon Keeper cannot be an example of this because by all accounts, pay or not there is no gameplay in that anyway, just stupid people paying money for the privilege of...paying more money.
Wake me up when I am FORCED to pay to get core content until then don't bother.
This is my thought as well. The ME3 multiplayer was fantastic and it added close to a year of playability for me. And it did not cost me a dime.Bergthor86 said:
I used the term grinding more as an easy expression to explain the whole idea that some people feel a benefit to trade time for money. Why not give the people who want to do that, the option? It won't be me but there is a market for that as the whole free to play model shows. If that multiplayer mode is worth playing I will play it. If it isn't, I won't, the cash shop will have no bearing either way for me.
THIS GAME HAS MULTIPLAYER WHICH IS UPDATED FOR FREE WITH MICROTRANSACTIONS HANGING AROUND AND NO PAY WALL. THIS MUST BE A SHITTY GAME, YAH YAH WITCHER BULLSHIT HYPE.
Yes, I will infact be buying the witcher but the level of criticism directed at this is R*t*r*e*.
Yes, I will infact be buying the witcher but the level of criticism directed at this is R*t*r*e*.
Honestly, you should still give the first one a go. Unlike DA2, it's a fully self-contained story. There aren't any story threads left open at the end (assuming you complete all the side quests/stories), so it's entirely possible to play through it and simply pretend DA2 doesn't exist.Flammablezeus said:
You could play DA2 if you want, but it does end on a cliff hanger (kind of), and well.. it's just not as well designed and built as DA:O.
Seriously, though, DA:O is worth it. If they had just stopped the franchise at that point it would have been fine.
The first Dragon Age game is an amazing game. Don't dismiss it based on EA's slow decent into increasingly shameless money grabs. The second game is a solid game. Not as amazing as the first. But, by all means, not deserving of the hate piled onto it. That said, I bought them back before I decided EA will never get another dime from me. But, if you already have it, by all means do play it.Flammablezeus said:
*sigh* The only time I will ever buy microtransactions is through a F2P game that deserves it (ie Hearthstone). If you have to buy the game to play it, and microtransactions are still available, then you have done something horribly wrong.
If it is anything like it was in ME3, then it isnt too bad, because earning the currency was nowhere near hard enough to obtain to make the loot crates look even the slightest bit tempting. And even though I, and many others will ignore them, it is still pretty disgusting that they feel the need to include them anyway.
If it is anything like it was in ME3, then it isnt too bad, because earning the currency was nowhere near hard enough to obtain to make the loot crates look even the slightest bit tempting. And even though I, and many others will ignore them, it is still pretty disgusting that they feel the need to include them anyway.
It's the price to pay for getting free multiplayer dlc's. But I don't see you complaining about that.Laggyteabag said:
From reading this topic and the other one about multiplayer being added, it looks like there are two types of posters:
Those who have actually played ME3 and don't mind/appreciate the multiplayer additions and microtransactions.
And then there's those who haven't played ME3 or any DA's, for various reasons, but still feel the need to call out EA as the most evil company just for including MP and the cash shop.
Personally, as long as DA:I sticks to the formula used in ME3, I won't mind either addition at all. Though I would wish that MP and SP were linked in some matter, as long as it doesn't directly determine your chance to complete the game.
Eh I hate EA as much as the next guy but if you get Origin's + Awakening and all the DLC you have a complete story with out any need for ever playing the rest of the dragon age crap that EA has put out. Origin is the last game that Bioware developed mostly while not being under EA's evil oppression and its certainly work playing if you like RPGs.Flammablezeus said:
Just do me like when you're done playing them and pretend Bioware never made any more dragon age games.
This is essentially what the resource packs were in AC4: Black Flag; an extra opportunity for the publisher to make money after the game has already came out and will only be bought by people with more money than sense. Just ignore them and you won't be affected.
I don't really care because it's optional and their are few chances i'll buy the game (Origin... I don't need spyware on my rig).
In fact i found the gameplay vid clumsy and too "hack and slash", it feel like Diablo and it gave me a bad feeling for combat in single player if it's the same way. I'll wait Pillars of Eternity and TW3.
In fact i found the gameplay vid clumsy and too "hack and slash", it feel like Diablo and it gave me a bad feeling for combat in single player if it's the same way. I'll wait Pillars of Eternity and TW3.