Dragon Age Origins: Getting your ass handed to you again and again as a rogue

[TPiddy]

I'd just like to ask a question and get some opinions, is the rogue the worst class to play? You can't stealth during combat, your unique class attack namely backstab gives you all of about 4 extra damage per attack. This is pathetic seeing as the warrior can do more damage with its basic attack from the front. What the hell is the point in playing a class that still sucks even in its specialities?

Do i just suck? What am i doing wrong? Im a fairly low level, around 9 or 10 but i really dont think im doing anything particularly wrong. I get behind enemies while stealthed and use my amazing backstab ability to do all of about 1 and a half times normal damage which fucking sucks anyway...what the fuck? I know im not meant to be some sort of juggernaught but i am meant to be the critical hitter, assisting and making the killing blows to enemies otherwise occupied with the bigger tank threats. Even my speical attacks seem to do no more damage than my normal ones. FOr instance i recently aquired a few duel weapon attacks like riposte and cripple, both of which seem to do absolutely nothing...

Yeah, you're totally doing it wrong. Use two daggers.... get the passive backstab skills early and momentum will rock your world. You will do less damage per hit than a warrior, but you'll do more hits in less time once you get some speed. By the time I had my rogue to level 26 in Awakening I was doing over 110 damage per hit with my backstabs, and I'd get off 3-4 of them in the time it took Oghren to swing once.

 

[Darth Caelum]

As a mage i got my arse handed to me a lot. It seems pretty unbalanced class wise to be honest. I thought rouges would have been ok though

You're doing it wrong. Mages are without a doubt the most powerful class in the game, capable of soloing the hardest difficulty.

I found that up to the ogre it was extremely difficult as the spells were very week. Even after Redcliffe it was quite difficult. maybe now i have a new spell that seems ridiculously powerful i'll be ok

Suggestion for you. Go Blood Mage. When you inevitably go high enough, use 'Blood Wound'. The one that makes the enemy writhe up in agony and can't move. Next, hit them with an Area of Attack spell. You're Golden from there. Become an Archon Magus next to REALLY bring on the pain. You can wear armor now, which means that you can cast Blood Wound more.

OT: Never Tried Rogue. I'm quite certain it must be a pain though, in the early levels anyway.

 

[Zaik]

As a mage i got my arse handed to me a lot. It seems pretty unbalanced class wise to be honest. I thought rouges would have been ok though

Start over, pick up the three monster Primal AOEs(Hint: Not earth ones, the onesthat have storm cloud looking icons), then every battle send in your idiots, throw down the one that freezes everyone, then the other one(s), and you can pretty much sit back and watch the battle win itsself. Honestly, throwing down two or three of those kills everything aside from bosses no matter what.

If anything can even get to you out of that, you've got that instant freezing thing and the ice cone shaped aoe thing to put ridiculous distance between you and it, then wind up some other ridiculous spell and blow it apart.

 

[Vrach]

Am kind of a caster type so I played with a Mage for the first playthrough... boy was I glad for my choice when I tried it the second time with a Rogue >.<

Got to the part where you're looking for the documents in the woods (just before you meet Morrigan). Found it just way too useless, boring and hard, the resource system is really bad (and unlike with a mage, there are no "energy" potions which, assuming you carry enough with you, allow you to not ever have to stop your gameplay) and AoE situations are just laughable, especially due to the Dual Weapon Sweep having extremely low range and radius. They also have WAY too many useful stats, making it impossible to level efficiently, compared to mages that just stack Magic and Willpower and throw in a few Cunning points to pick up the Persuasion talents.

I did find it a lot more tolerable in Awakenings though and while the resources are still a pile of feces, at least you have some interesting attacks. I couldn't be bothered to check, but if you have Awakenings, are the talents available for the normal campaign? Cause they sure as hell should be for the sake of both Rogues and Warriors as it really brings them up to par with mages in the terms of useful skills.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

As a mage i got my arse handed to me a lot. It seems pretty unbalanced class wise to be honest. I thought rouges would have been ok though

Nope, Mages are by far the most powerful class in the game.

I found the game almost twice as easy with a mage as I did with a warrior.

 

[quack35]

1. Create rogue.
2. Get Duelist class.
3. Activate Dual Strikes, Momentum, and Dueling all at once.
4. Win every fight for the rest of the game.

 

[Flamezdudes]

I love playing as a Rogue, its awesome

 

[The_ModeRazor]

I tried it with dual wield and chronic backstabbing disorder, and I really, really pwned everything I came across. The Archdemon barely hurt me. (yeah, really good equipment helps too)

 

[TraderJimmy]

I'd just like to ask a question and get some opinions, is the rogue the worst class to play? You can't stealth during combat, your unique class attack namely backstab gives you all of about 4 extra damage per attack. This is pathetic seeing as the warrior can do more damage with its basic attack from the front. What the hell is the point in playing a class that still sucks even in its specialities?

Do i just suck? What am i doing wrong? Im a fairly low level, around 9 or 10 but i really dont think im doing anything particularly wrong. I get behind enemies while stealthed and use my amazing backstab ability to do all of about 1 and a half times normal damage which fucking sucks anyway...what the fuck? I know im not meant to be some sort of juggernaught but i am meant to be the critical hitter, assisting and making the killing blows to enemies otherwise occupied with the bigger tank threats. Even my speical attacks seem to do no more damage than my normal ones. FOr instance i recently aquired a few duel weapon attacks like riposte and cripple, both of which seem to do absolutely nothing...

If you're really not able to rock your rogue, just spam all your talents into tools, that way the Main Character will always be useful, even though all you need to faceroll normal difficulty is Wynne + Alistair + any DPS. Rogue talents tend to be more useful to rogues than dual weapon talents, whatever weapons you're using, but you'll want to be using your bow against bosses anyway most of the time - so I really consider dual weapons a waste in anything but a Warrior Off-tank.

9-10 isn't that low a level, you may have done some crap in the wrong order for a first playthru. Gear is the be-all and end-all in Dragon Age.