Dragon Age Writer Suggests That Everyone Just Calm Down

OrdinaryGuy

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I like some aspects of the "Mass Effect style," but I want to see Dragon Age have its own style. In fact, that's what I thought they were going for with DA:O. Some stuff is okay, as long as they don't go overboard with it.

I'll save my remarks for after DA2 is released, though. I never judge a game without seeing the finished product.
 

Nimzabaat

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Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:
Cyrax987 said:
Should give them chance though. I mean when has Bioware really disappointed?
When they didn't make KOTOR 2
OT: Why do you take out the things that made the game good!
I hate playing humans, it's so... normal!
I'm with you on all points. What does Bioware have against sequels? ME2 wasn't as good as ME (last time I looked it was in the bargain bin, which means it dropped in price faster than Too Human. Serious burn but it's a fact). Now Bioware seems to want to follow Bethesda and do their own version of Elder Scrolls Redguard (Remember Redguard? Nobody does. Bethesda branched from their sandbox, make-your-own-character formula to make a simplified game following a single hero and it bombed). I have a lot of faith in Bioware for everything but sequels it seems(Once bitten etc etc).
 

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Woodsey said:
Gudrests said:
Woodsey said:
He's right, of course, but still:

"simplified combat."

Why does the combat need to be simplified? The nice thing about having Origins and ME2 at the same time was the way they both approached being RPGs in different ways. I.e. Origins was "hardcore".

It's not like the combat was difficult to get to grips with - although it was bastard hard to play in some cases. Still, I liked that.
you have to admit tho...that game. was hard. the combat. was Extremly hard. and you could be killed by the weakeast of baddies. and yes i agree. Origins was Hardcore. but too a point where you HAD to have a certian setup to play anything besides easy
What do you mean "a certain set up"?
Like first off. you needed a healer. i understand that one you even need it in easy mode. but if you didnt like prepare every fight and micro manage it down to the last thing you would die, i dont know about you but i dont want to have to build a layout of everyroom and know the perfect locatian to place traps for each one. Way too much for me
 

Woodsey

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Gudrests said:
Woodsey said:
Gudrests said:
Woodsey said:
He's right, of course, but still:

"simplified combat."

Why does the combat need to be simplified? The nice thing about having Origins and ME2 at the same time was the way they both approached being RPGs in different ways. I.e. Origins was "hardcore".

It's not like the combat was difficult to get to grips with - although it was bastard hard to play in some cases. Still, I liked that.
you have to admit tho...that game. was hard. the combat. was Extremly hard. and you could be killed by the weakeast of baddies. and yes i agree. Origins was Hardcore. but too a point where you HAD to have a certian setup to play anything besides easy
What do you mean "a certain set up"?
Like first off. you needed a healer. i understand that one you even need it in easy mode. but if you didnt like prepare every fight and micro manage it down to the last thing you would die, i dont know about you but i dont want to have to build a layout of everyroom and know the perfect locatian to place traps for each one. Way too much for me
Well yeah, that's the point of having a party-system. You have a healer, a tank, etc.

And I'm playing through on Normal and I've not set a single trap after 30 hours of game time. If you don't like that style of combat then why are you playing the game?
 

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I am kinda sad that I can't be an elf anymore but oh well. I just really hope I can choose my appearence like in Mass Effect. The character model here is alright but I will be let down if I cant alter hairstyles and all that at least. But let's wait and see, Bioware is one of the few developers who arent complete cunts. Ill give them the benefit of the doubt until I get to try it myself.
 

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Woodsey said:
He's right, of course, but still:

"simplified combat."
This worries me... I may be a masochist, but man, I still want my games hard and challenging! If they'll do to DA2 what they did to ME2(I really liked the RPG elements in ME 1, they felt a lot better than the ones in ME2), then I fear DA2 will be and RPG with just the RP and no G...
I hate change!
 

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theaceplaya said:
Cyrax987 said:
Should give them chance though. I mean when has Bioware really disappointed?
Fact. BioWare has a great track record, and has yet to put out a bad game. Even the Sonic RPG was good.
This. Bioware and Valve are the only two development studios that have never let me down. A studio with such a pristine track record should be trusted.
 

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I personally agree and think that everyone needs to calm down, but I do agree that we have the right to worry about it with the FACTS said about it. From what I hear your actions cannot cause people to leave your party which I do not like, and all that I really care about is that the combat improves. I love the tactical part about it but otherwise the normal attack method was lacking.

I would want it to be smoother, and I dont know if it is possible but I would want it to strive to be closer to the combat in the mod trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7sfmEl7FAA
 

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I would have to agree with Bioware on this one. Guys remember all the Wrex bashing before the game was released and showed who he atually was, or all the people who hated Subject Zero who then turned around and freaking loved her? If you're willing to judge an entire work from BIOWARE the masters on intricate characters and stories on, as they said, perhaps the most scant amount of information possible right now, then you're a fucking idiot (Please watch moviebob's 2012 review for recommended treatment).
 

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I'm mostly worried about the "simplified combat" because I liked the combat of the first game and thought it worked well on my PC. I hope they don't dumb it down to much.
 

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All the people getting worked up just need to take a deep breathe and hold it till the game comes out, that'll solve all their problems =D

I'm personally looking forward to seeing where Bioware's gonna take it.
 

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Again, I really don't care about the plot or premise much, Bioware rarely messes those up. My big gripe will most likely be the combat given how horrible it was in the first game. Granted I was playing the console version, but that's no excuse.
 

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Its not so much the changes and less customization that disappoints me about DA2 is the lack of continuity from the first game.

I want to know what happens to my character, Morrigan, Alistar and Ferelden in general. I thought the ending to the first game was less then satisfactory especially pertaining to your party members.
 

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This has turned into a such a big deal. DA:O was crappy compared to most other Bioware games anyway, tedious battles that made me feel more like an accountant than a character in a vast world. Who cares if they have origins or not, all of them were the same; "My ties to the community have been severed, I am forced to join the Grey Wardens!"

Honestly we've already been over the "YOU'RE PUTTING OUT A GAME 1 YEAR AFTER THE FIRST ONE, BOYCOTT!"

The writing in BioWare games is always good but who really cares when the game is 40+ hours of boring ass combat that pigeonholes you into specific classes whilst the more unusual options are unplayable unless points and armor are chosen extraordinarily carefully.

Really, BioWare has been moving towards a more theatrical type of storytelling that tends towards the MW2 theory of "If it's dramatic, and if it's scripted, that means it makes more of an impact on the character." Games like Deus Ex, System Shock 2, and Morrowind were much more challenging, much more rewarding, and made you actually feel like the character, whereas the new Mass Effect/Dragon Age games are just not really in the same league.

So go out and buy it if you're into that sort of thing. Or you can wait for an RPG that actually puts you in the role of the character, instead of a game that sets you on a tram, moving through scripted set pieces and pre-determined plot-lines that you have very little control over.