I wouldn't say it's obsolete. There are still plenty of games coming for it this year and its recent performance hasn't changed much since the holidays, even after the PlayStation 4 was announced. I'd call the PS3's sales "healthy", and the Wii U outselling it is a good sign, though as a new console it should be selling twice as much as the PS3 every week.Yellowfish said:
Dragon Quest X Tanks On Wii U
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Are you speaking for the Japanese audience? Are you able to provide evidence that Japanese gamers don't want an MMO Dragon Quest?FoolKiller said:
Perhaps it didn't sell due to being released on a system the Japanese marketed didn't want to buy simply for that one game? Perhaps, if released on the PS3, it would've fared a lot better. Of course, my analysis holds just as much water as yours.
On a side note to all of this: And people are saying nobody's buying the Vita?
So it wasn't just me then. The whole multiplayer fad thing seems to have it's fingers in every corner of the gaming world, whether it makes sense for the specific gaming line or not. It definitely feels like publishers and people with Business degrees pulling their weight against developers while having no idea of how game design actually works. A game crash would be really helpful right now, but there doesn't seem to be one coming anytime soon.Crono1973 said:
Calling it right now, Square Enix are going to the way of the Dodo if they dont learn from their mistakes soon.
From the sound of it, this game is just an mmo with the Dragon Quest title printed on its box, right? So the solution is clear for future entries, create a classic RPG like every Dragon Quest from 1-8, 9 had a little weak of story since the playable characters were all generic, class-based models. When I first played Dragon Quest 8, my brother walked into the room and asked this: "Why are you, someone who hates JRPGs, playing a game that even RPG nerds consider nerdy?" Dragon Quest has that kind of feel to it, it doesn't need to be exactly like prior games or even use a similar style, it just needs to harken back to the core concept of hero versus demon king on a grand adventure.
Maybe they did and all the incoherent swearing they got in response, they assumed were a very enthusiastic yes.Evil Smurf said:
Dragon Quest games should not be MMOs. What is with trying to attach every game to an MMO. Stop it. My RPGs need to be mostly single player, and primarily offline. They're just eroding their brand. Didn't the last failure at a FF MMO teach them a lesson?
They haven't released it in North America yet... and now its looking like they may never release it in North America.2xDouble said:
Technically, a port just means that the code was modified to work on a different system from the original. Just because game developers like to do dick moves like adding new features to later versions, doesn't make it implicitly part of the "porting" process.teebeeohh said:
1. You clearly don't understand humourTerramax said:
2. The numbers speak for themselves as the system itself has sold over 1 million units in Japan. That is its own evidence that they don't want it. Also, its Squeenix who thinks that 3 million Tomb Raiders sold is poor performance.
3. My analysis has to do with what my friends are saying but also has to do with Squeenix repeatedly going down this path trying to shoehorn in an MMO into a beloved RPG franchise because they see WOW doing well and think they should copy that.
3. Obviously if you put the game on a console with a larger fan base, there will be more people purchasing it.
4. The Vita will skyrocket in sales when the memory sticks become cheaper and people start jailbreaking them the way they did with the PSP.
Yes, these numbers suck, but I would like to mention one little thing:
While it only sold 30,000 units, it did sell 60-80% of it's stock. So that means that Squeenix knew this game wouldn't sell that high.
While it only sold 30,000 units, it did sell 60-80% of it's stock. So that means that Squeenix knew this game wouldn't sell that high.
That doesn't change the point.CriticKitten said:
It relates to the business expectation, and is neither inaccurate nor inappropriate. But okay, sure. He should have phrased it to your approval. That still doesn't change the fact that you tried to peg him with expectations that were not given as his.
The root issues still remain, despite the fluff.
I'd recommend Dragon Quest 8 if you have a PS2. I fucking love that game. As do a lot of people. Why 9 and 10 (which i just found out existed) are respectively a multiplayer ds game and a wiiu MMO is beyond me. After all, the main reason I bought 8 was because both the gaming magazines I was subscribed to as well as G4 rated it extremely highly. Also apparently Dragonquest was at that time more popular in japan than final fantasy. It takes some work to run something like that into the ground so thoroughly.Innegativeion said:
The biggest problem is they keep wanting to put it on an accessible console so they keep going with nintendo. So they go the DS route reasonable but having played the DS version it doesn't compare to the PS and PS2 games and I can't imagine playing it on the wii.CriticKitten said:
I don't want graphics that redefine what we expect out of imagery, give me the anime look of 8 and make the story+extras 100 hours and I will play that full hundred hours plus some. I mean there are very few games where I will stay grinding over and over for hours but DQ is one of them.
So put it on the ps3 AND Wii U. Make it single player and fun which i know they can do and they will make their money up in Japan alone(american here btw). I leave out the 360 because that might just end up being a loss for them./rant end