Calling it right now, Square Enix are going to the way of the Dodo if they dont learn from their mistakes soon.
Dragon Quest X Tanks On Wii U
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From the sound of it, this game is just an mmo with the Dragon Quest title printed on its box, right? So the solution is clear for future entries, create a classic RPG like every Dragon Quest from 1-8, 9 had a little weak of story since the playable characters were all generic, class-based models. When I first played Dragon Quest 8, my brother walked into the room and asked this: "Why are you, someone who hates JRPGs, playing a game that even RPG nerds consider nerdy?" Dragon Quest has that kind of feel to it, it doesn't need to be exactly like prior games or even use a similar style, it just needs to harken back to the core concept of hero versus demon king on a grand adventure.
Maybe they did and all the incoherent swearing they got in response, they assumed were a very enthusiastic yes.Evil Smurf said:
Dragon Quest games should not be MMOs. What is with trying to attach every game to an MMO. Stop it. My RPGs need to be mostly single player, and primarily offline. They're just eroding their brand. Didn't the last failure at a FF MMO teach them a lesson?
They haven't released it in North America yet... and now its looking like they may never release it in North America.2xDouble said:
Technically, a port just means that the code was modified to work on a different system from the original. Just because game developers like to do dick moves like adding new features to later versions, doesn't make it implicitly part of the "porting" process.teebeeohh said:
1. You clearly don't understand humourTerramax said:
2. The numbers speak for themselves as the system itself has sold over 1 million units in Japan. That is its own evidence that they don't want it. Also, its Squeenix who thinks that 3 million Tomb Raiders sold is poor performance.
3. My analysis has to do with what my friends are saying but also has to do with Squeenix repeatedly going down this path trying to shoehorn in an MMO into a beloved RPG franchise because they see WOW doing well and think they should copy that.
3. Obviously if you put the game on a console with a larger fan base, there will be more people purchasing it.
4. The Vita will skyrocket in sales when the memory sticks become cheaper and people start jailbreaking them the way they did with the PSP.
Yes, these numbers suck, but I would like to mention one little thing:
While it only sold 30,000 units, it did sell 60-80% of it's stock. So that means that Squeenix knew this game wouldn't sell that high.
While it only sold 30,000 units, it did sell 60-80% of it's stock. So that means that Squeenix knew this game wouldn't sell that high.
That doesn't change the point.CriticKitten said:
It relates to the business expectation, and is neither inaccurate nor inappropriate. But okay, sure. He should have phrased it to your approval. That still doesn't change the fact that you tried to peg him with expectations that were not given as his.
The root issues still remain, despite the fluff.
I'd recommend Dragon Quest 8 if you have a PS2. I fucking love that game. As do a lot of people. Why 9 and 10 (which i just found out existed) are respectively a multiplayer ds game and a wiiu MMO is beyond me. After all, the main reason I bought 8 was because both the gaming magazines I was subscribed to as well as G4 rated it extremely highly. Also apparently Dragonquest was at that time more popular in japan than final fantasy. It takes some work to run something like that into the ground so thoroughly.Innegativeion said:
The biggest problem is they keep wanting to put it on an accessible console so they keep going with nintendo. So they go the DS route reasonable but having played the DS version it doesn't compare to the PS and PS2 games and I can't imagine playing it on the wii.CriticKitten said:
I don't want graphics that redefine what we expect out of imagery, give me the anime look of 8 and make the story+extras 100 hours and I will play that full hundred hours plus some. I mean there are very few games where I will stay grinding over and over for hours but DQ is one of them.
So put it on the ps3 AND Wii U. Make it single player and fun which i know they can do and they will make their money up in Japan alone(american here btw). I leave out the 360 because that might just end up being a loss for them./rant end
If your interested or have the time try DQ for the ps on an emulator. That game was two or three(can't remember) disks jam packed with what a jrpg should be though towards the end of the second disk it was all boss fights basically. Or many of the other dq games before they where also awesome(of the ones I played).Colt47 said:
Of course the fucking thing bombed. After FFXIV only people with severe head trauma are going to buy a Square Enix mumorpeger.
Er, no. "Port" is just a translation or transition of a game from one platform to another.teebeeohh said:
Whether it's done (in)competently, with or without certain features is beside the point.
I think you mean XI and XVI.Nick Holmgren said:
FFIX and FFIV are widely considered some of the best games in the series.
OT: Seriously? An MMO? Come on Square, have you learned nothing from your aforementioned MMO failures?
I'd seriously love to see the JRPG franchises they own start to go back to their roots, but unfortunately I doubt we'll be seeing that any time soon.