BGH122 said:
Smokescreen said:
BGH122 said:
Ekonk said:
Oh, please. That has been a leading phenomenom in youth culture ever since there WAS youth culture. Don't pull the 'the world is going to shit' card on me, it's been shit all along.
Untrue, between the end of the renaissance to the start of the 1960's chastity was the norm. Now I'm not arguing that this situation is good either because it was largely due to religious and social oppression, but neither situation is great.
Massive Citation Needed as the evidence is to the contrary.
You've got the oppression right, but not the chastity that is for sure.
Cite your point too please. Furthermore, showing that phenomena like prostitution were rampant doesn't prove that 'young people have always been at it' because sex due to necessity isn't equivalent to promiscuity by choice. Here's a citation for increasing pro-promiscuity norms (only wikipedia, I'm afraid):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_revolution said:
[...] before the 1920s the Victorian era was much more conservative than even the 1930s and 1950s. Due to the invention of TV and the increasingly wide use of it in the 1950s, a vast majority of Americans had television by the 1960s.
This mass communication device, along with other media outlets such as radio and magazines, could broadcast information in a matter of seconds to millions of people, while only a few wealthy people would control what millions of people would watch. Some have now theorised that perhaps these media outlets helped spread new ideas among the masses.
You're going to 1) make a claim about human sexuality stretching for about 500 years and then insist that I prove my point--when I ain't making the claim and then 2) back it up with a WIKI link that discusses the /Victorian/ era (early 1800's) and specifically is talking about attitude shift in the 1960-70's?
Ha. Ha.
Just because there was an oppressive view of sex doesn't mean people didn't have it. Hell, arranged marriages were set up for children as young as 12.
Just because there was an oppressive view of sex didn't mean people weren't having rampant amounts of it from young to old ages. I cite the 8 billion people on the planet.
/ha
If you want to argue that things are more sexualized than they were 100 years ago, you got it; I'll support that argument. However, that isn't your argument. Your argument is that 'young people can't keep it in their pants now and it's pissing me off!'
Well, they NEVER could.
However, I'm not here to convince you; I'm here to demonstrate your argument doesn't hold water. I'll leave that to the forum to weigh. If you're looking for thought on the idea that human beings are far more sexual than most other species on the planet, then I'd recommend Sex at Dawn (which I have to confess I have not finished yet). Or just look at our species behavior vs everything except bonobos. We like to fuck. A lot. It's our nature and I figure there are two options:
1) THOSE DARN KIDS! Whhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrgggbl!
2) Educate them so they know what they're getting into. Societies that do this tend to have lower teen pregnancy rates than societies that don't. Which means more of your hard earned money stays with you and that seems to be something you care about.
/edited to seem less snarky; apologies for that