Dungeons & Dragons Online Going Free-to-Play - UPDATED

Babidi

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S.H.A.R.P. said:
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Malygris said:
UPDATE: Codemasters [http://www.codemasters.com], which operates Dungeons & Dragons Online in Europe, has clarified that the free-to-play model will only be available in North America. "For the time being, DDO Europe will not be assuming this new business model and the European DDO game service will remain a monthly subscription-based game with all new content created available to all subscribers, as has been the model up until now," Codemasters said in a statement.
*snipped for possible overreaction*
Why not make a US account and play for free anyway?

Bab
Beg your pardon? Doesn't that.. You know, require one to live in the states? Don't you think they have some sort of IP cross-checks active to see people aren't cheating?
Bro, Im from Brazil and have a US Account, and a Beta key, you just have to have a US account, lol! Use your international cc....

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Babidi said:
S.H.A.R.P. said:
Babidi said:
S.H.A.R.P. said:
Malygris said:
UPDATE: Codemasters [http://www.codemasters.com], which operates Dungeons & Dragons Online in Europe, has clarified that the free-to-play model will only be available in North America. "For the time being, DDO Europe will not be assuming this new business model and the European DDO game service will remain a monthly subscription-based game with all new content created available to all subscribers, as has been the model up until now," Codemasters said in a statement.
*snipped for possible overreaction*
Why not make a US account and play for free anyway?

Bab
Beg your pardon? Doesn't that.. You know, require one to live in the states? Don't you think they have some sort of IP cross-checks active to see people aren't cheating?

Bro, Im from Brazil and have a US Account, and a Beta key, you just have to have a US account, lol! Use your international cc....

Bab
Interesting! Definitely worth a shot, thanks for the information.
 

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It sound to me like this is more of an unlimited free trial BS that some games are starting to try now "Sure you don't HAVE to pay the monthly fee, but we're going to make sure your gaming experience is shit for being such a cheap bastard" I call shenanigans on this F2P change, and see it more as a desperate cry for players to their game......and its working, excuse me while I go make an account *poof*

EDIT: Jumped the gun on that one....it still appears to be in the beta phases.
Exactly. I'm going to try this game just because of all the praise it got during MM. Then I'm probably going to find a lot of the content to be restricted, preventing me from enjoying the game to its full extent.
 

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Ah and dont forget to use Hhyber server so I can send you some stuff to start the game!!

Let me know your toon name...
 

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KeyMaster45 said:
It sound to me like this is more of an unlimited free trial BS that some games are starting to try now "Sure you don't HAVE to pay the monthly fee, but we're going to make sure your gaming experience is shit for being such a cheap bastard" I call shenanigans on this F2P change, and see it more as a desperate cry for players to their game......and its working, excuse me while I go make an account *poof*

EDIT: Jumped the gun on that one....it still appears to be in the beta phases.
Exactly. I'm going to try this game just because of all the praise it got during MM. Then I'm probably going to find a lot of the content to be restricted, preventing me from enjoying the game to its full extent.
As I said, there will be a way to play all packs for free, you just have to farm favor from the factions and you can trade them for Turbine points....play all for free then!!!


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Babidi said:
Internet Kraken said:
KeyMaster45 said:
It sound to me like this is more of an unlimited free trial BS that some games are starting to try now "Sure you don't HAVE to pay the monthly fee, but we're going to make sure your gaming experience is shit for being such a cheap bastard" I call shenanigans on this F2P change, and see it more as a desperate cry for players to their game......and its working, excuse me while I go make an account *poof*

EDIT: Jumped the gun on that one....it still appears to be in the beta phases.
Exactly. I'm going to try this game just because of all the praise it got during MM. Then I'm probably going to find a lot of the content to be restricted, preventing me from enjoying the game to its full extent.
As I said, there will be a way to play all packs for free, you just have to farm favor from the factions and you can trade them for Turbine points....play all for free then!!!


Bab
That still prevents me from accessing certain areas of the game.

Also, I don't want to grind enemies for ridiculous amounts of time just to gain access to certain content.
 

Babidi

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Internet Kraken said:
Babidi said:
Internet Kraken said:
KeyMaster45 said:
It sound to me like this is more of an unlimited free trial BS that some games are starting to try now "Sure you don't HAVE to pay the monthly fee, but we're going to make sure your gaming experience is shit for being such a cheap bastard" I call shenanigans on this F2P change, and see it more as a desperate cry for players to their game......and its working, excuse me while I go make an account *poof*

EDIT: Jumped the gun on that one....it still appears to be in the beta phases.
Exactly. I'm going to try this game just because of all the praise it got during MM. Then I'm probably going to find a lot of the content to be restricted, preventing me from enjoying the game to its full extent.
As I said, there will be a way to play all packs for free, you just have to farm favor from the factions and you can trade them for Turbine points....play all for free then!!!


Bab
That still prevents me from accessing certain areas of the game.

Also, I don't want to grind enemies for ridiculous amounts of time just to gain access to certain content.
You will not be grinding, you will be playing the game, and when you get the points trade them for the area you want to access for free...

Well, its still on beta, we shall see if it easy to get the points or not but the plan is to play the game, get the favor points and only pay to get things faster if you dont want to wait.

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Free.

Unless you want to play the entire game.

It's a store-based demo version of the whole game.

If you like it, it will be cheaper, in the long run, just to buy it and subscribe. I wouldn't waste any time or money, though. To me, this seems like Turbine's final stand for DDO to try and hope and pray that people will play this game so they don't have to just kill the franchise.

Subscribers are jumping ship at an alarming rate (according to their forums) because of the communication (or lack thereof) from the developers and the lack of content updates.

I played and DDO for 2 months. In that time I capped 3 toons and it just became a grind fest.

Fanboys will tell you about its "unique combat style" that consists of you clicking the mouse ceaselessly. If I wanted to do that, there are literally millions of java based browser games I can play for (really) free. The entire game is instanced based where you are quarantined in one city (Stormreach...seriously?). Even the "explorer" areas are just instanced. The lag rapes your will to play. The economy (auction house) is divided into those with billions of platinum and everybody else (medicore items sell for up to 10 times their value, and that is just the non-rare items). Crafting is luck of the draw. Once you've done a mission on one difficulty, you've done them all; just memorize where the traps and mobs are, it is zerger porn. Downtime for "maintenance" is weekly (every Monday), but what they fix is a mystery as patch notes and fixes are nowhere to be found (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=150534 last updated in Jan! There have been several crashes and fixes since then, but damned if they're gonna tell you what went wrong). Oh, fanboys also tout the merits of it's "customization" where every chain mail looks like every other chain mail and there are pitifully few character visualization tweaks to be had. All stats are basically min/max, but, hey, I can be a dual class. I guess that's something.

Honestly, for a game that has been around for 3 years, it is a pitiful attempt at an MMO. The only thing keeping it alive is the fanboy base, and all they do is start petitions for what they think should be in the game, gripe about content updates, and flamewar ANYBODY that doesn't think DDO was handed to man by the Gods themselves on a golden platter carried by 100 gorgeous virgins just waiting for a D&D fan to deflower them and make them their fantasy women.

I suggest saving your money (AND TIME) and getting Champions Online or one of the many other games being released on September 1st.
 

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I've been in the Beta for a while now, so I'll share a few impressions:

First of all, the game is pretty good, especially if you enjoy 3.5ed DnD rules. Sure, there have been some alterations (for instance Spell Points) and additions (for instance Enhancements), but the feel of DnD is still in there. All quests are instanced, but are well designed and overall the game plays nice. At the very least, I liked it quite a bit. Grouping is pretty much mandatory after the early levels as the game gets pretty brutal and practically unsoloable for the average player.

It's coming out in the US only. Cry me a river. There's nothing, I repeat, NOTHING, stopping you from making an account even if you're in Europe, so stop the whining about that part. You can probably still grab a Beta code off Fileplanet and see for yourself.

As for the game's amount of F2P content and the Store, it's crap. At around level 5 you run into a massive cockblock where about 2/3 of the game is locked out and you need to purchase the content one quest hub at a time. Also, buying only the low level content packs will cost you the same as about 2-3 months of subscription (and subscribers get other benefits besides access to all the content). By low level I mean content for levels 1-8. Unlocking all the content would cost you more than a year worth of subscription fees. And that's before you start paying for extra classes, races, character and bank slots, etc. AND THAT'S BEFORE you even look at consumeables and vanity items. Basically, the Store is a ripoff in its current incarnation and not worth a penny.

Essentially, it's a solid game with a terrible F2P model that works like a glorified demo. On one hand, the game is superior to pretty much all F2P games since it was actually developed as a proper game, but it feels far too limited. Also, a game that's totally focused on grouping can only suffer by restricting access to content to some of its players. Feel free to try it out, at least it won't cost you anything.
 

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This isn't free to play. This is a never-ending demo. There is a difference.
True. You probably get to play as 1 race and 3 classes (fighter, archer, preist)
 

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Kuala BangoDango said:
DamienHell said:
I would get this, but the land limitations is too much. Its like getting WoW and only having access to Durotar.
Well, to be clear they said "Stormreach and vicinity" which if I remember right was the whole game at release anyway. Unless my memory is bad, when the game came out, the city of Stormreach was all there was to the game...it was just a really big city with tons of instanced dungeans/quests.

So this is kind of like saying "You can play WoW for free but are limited to the original Horde/Alliance continents". Granted Stormreach is not as big as those two continents, my point is you get most everything from the original game. The stuff you don't have free access to is stuff that either didn't exist in the original release (monk class, areas/quests outside the city) or content that you had to unlock through achievements (Drow, Warforged, etc.).

As for some of the other posts complaining about free players not getting everything the paying players get, what would be the point of even being a paying player if you can get it all for free? It's a company, not a charity.

I swear, if a company doesn't go out of business by giving all their products away for free, some people just won't be happy.

I'll tell ya what. Tomorrow when you go into work, tell your boss/payroll department that you'll work for free from now on and see how long that lasts before you lose your house and starve to death.

It's unfortunate how many players these days live in a place called La-La-Land, where game companies magically don't need money to operate, and where their employees out of the goodness of their hearts volunteer to go in and work for 8-12 hours a day, free of charge, to answer Customer Support calls, work on the servers, fix bugs, and develop new content.

I don't much care for the free-to-play-buy-the-extras approach myself. I prefer monthly memberships. But, I can see the benefits for some games to go the RMT route. DDO is really a very good, high quality MMO...much better than the typical free ones out there...and if this move can keep the game up and running for a lot longer then I can only see that as a good thing for it's players.

And it's really no different than the tabletop version of D&D where you can get by on the original game alone, but the players had to go out and buy pre-made campaigns and extra armor/weapons/monster/special classes books if they wanted a more richly detailed gaming experience.
Exactly my friend! I agree. I have tried just about every "model" of online play and find the one DDO uses of being mostly free but with optional micro-transactions and additional content you can pay for once you complete the core game to be the best one. I've tried some of the supposedly completely free mmorpgs out there and found them to be rather pitiful, 2-D Java based dnd knock-offs. But you get what you pay for I always say.

I also have tried the buy the whole game in a store or download it for a "normal" off the shelf game price but then play it online with no monthly fee like they did with Guild Wars. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but I found myself a little underwhelmed at the quality (or lack thereof) of the game I was playing that I paid $50 for. I had played much cheaper RPGs that I liked better. Also the whole guild system on that game didn't work for me as I wound up going through a series of joining guilds only to have them either dry up and die due to other members quitting or being kicked off the guild for not keeping pace with the other guild members.

I briefly tried the buy the whole game online or in a store and also pay a monthly fee to play it model with WOW and the Star Wars MMORPG but I never got over the frustration of having to pay my ISP for internet access and having to pay the game company to keep playing the game.

Nope, the DDO model has it right. Play for free to try it out all you want to with no time limitations (I Really hate it when demos have time limits in days, log ons etc. so that you feel like you have to devote huge blocks of time to the game just to get through all the demo before you are locked out)and then if you really want to get deep into the game and do everything and go everywhere subscribe. I love that you can choose to either buy upgrades, equipment, spells etc with either real money or points granted to you in-game by completing quests. I used some of my first in-game granted points to buy some gold seal hirelings. Wow! What a great deal! For something like 10 points, I got a fully functional party member who I could order around and/or let decide what he wanted to do himself for quite a long time. Those hirelings are really helpful, especially if you pick ones that have different classes and abilities than you do.

For now, I'm playing on the Khyber world/server as Arctostaphls Uva-ursi a Level 2 Dwarf Cleric. Look me up if you would like to do a quest with me.