E3 2010: Link Returns In Zelda: Skyward Sword

burningdragoon

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I was actually feeling a little bad for Miyamoto when he was trying to demonstrate the game. I don't know how much of it was technical problems, but the guy clearly loves his work and loved what he had to show everyone and it just wasn't working out how he planned. Damn you empathy.

Anyway, if I had a Wii it would be no question if I'd get this or not.
 

Macgyvercas

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rsvp42 said:
Sign me up! I never understand the objection to the Wii's controls. I haven't really used the MotionPlus much (don't own Wii Sports Resort) but it never required that much exertion to flick your wrist. Seriously, who are these people complaining like:

Macgyvercas said:
Only talking about the motion controls, are they John? Did they say anything about options to use a classic controller if the player (like me) thinks motion controls are a waste of time? If not, it's time for me to yell at Nintendo...again.

They need to understand this. If I want to excercise, I'll ride a bike or go running. If I want to sit on my ass and do nothing, I'll play video games. AND I DO NOT WANT THOSE TWO PAST TIMES INTERMINGLING!! /rant
Heaven forbid we have to sit up or *gasp* stand to play our games. Fight through the carpal tunnel and muscle through that first heart attack, skipper. No one's asking you join the marines, just move your arm a little. Or don't buy the game. Since when does Nintendo owe anything to anyone?

Then again, I'm the sort of person who stands to play Guitar Hero. I feel like a tool if I just sit there when a game assumes I'm standing.
I never said I wouldn't buy the game. Hell, I probably will since I love LoZ so much. I just don't care for the idea of motion controls, since they have a reputation of being very finicky.
 

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I only have one question:

What happens if the enemy blocks high and I swing vertically? Specifically, I'm curious about when Link's sword hits the enemy's shield and my arm with the Wiimote continues down.

Does Link's sword go through the enemy?
Does the Wii-Motion Plus manage to recognize this scenario and physically stop my arm from going down?
Does my position become de-synched with Link's? If so, when/how does it correct?

It's gotta be one of those three (smart money's on the last one) and unless it's handled correctly it will lead to very little more than jarring, discontinued battles that are more frustrating than anything else.
 

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just watched this video:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-zelda-skyward/101469

seems quite good, like the new weapon flying thing
 

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I personally like the Twilight Princess's art style better than Wind Waker so I'm hoping it is less cartoony.

I'd like to play it though, sounds like fun.
 

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Keslen said:
I only have one question:

What happens if the enemy blocks high and I swing vertically? Specifically, I'm curious about when Link's sword hits the enemy's shield and my arm with the Wiimote continues down.

Does Link's sword go through the enemy?
Does the Wii-Motion Plus manage to recognize this scenario and physically stop my arm from going down?
Does my position become de-synched with Link's? If so, when/how does it correct?

It's gotta be one of those three (smart money's on the last one) and unless it's handled correctly it will lead to very little more than jarring, discontinued battles that are more frustrating than anything else.
It's the last one from what I can tell and it takes a moment but the sword repositions itself after the block just after impact and you start to recoil.
 

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I'm giddy with anticipation!

Skyward Sword, really? That's the best title they could come up with?

I mean YAY ZELDA!
 

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And of course, that 10% of the population who are left handed can take their Wii-motes and shove them up their ass.
 

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Xanthious said:
John Funk said:
Megacherv said:
The 1:1 is a lie, watching it now and it's so finicky. It's quite funny really, BUT if the actual release has more streamlined controls, it'll probably be a good game.

EDIT: They're also 'apparently' having inteference from other devices...I don't believe that for a second...
Oh please. Do you really think Nintendo would intentionally debut something like that if they weren't confident in it? Nintendo is more savvy than that.

We'll be at the Nintendo booth this week to find out for sure.
In fact I do. Look at the Wii. I can't say how terrible the controls were before motion plus. And even now with motion plus the controls still leave a lot to be desired. The motion control in most games right now boils down to "flay arms wildly about in random directions"
Much like how many forum posts boil down to "Say what Yahtzee says"
 

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Macgyvercas said:
rsvp42 said:
Sign me up! I never understand the objection to the Wii's controls. I haven't really used the MotionPlus much (don't own Wii Sports Resort) but it never required that much exertion to flick your wrist. Seriously, who are these people complaining like:

Macgyvercas said:
Only talking about the motion controls, are they John? Did they say anything about options to use a classic controller if the player (like me) thinks motion controls are a waste of time? If not, it's time for me to yell at Nintendo...again.

They need to understand this. If I want to excercise, I'll ride a bike or go running. If I want to sit on my ass and do nothing, I'll play video games. AND I DO NOT WANT THOSE TWO PAST TIMES INTERMINGLING!! /rant
Heaven forbid we have to sit up or *gasp* stand to play our games. Fight through the carpal tunnel and muscle through that first heart attack, skipper. No one's asking you join the marines, just move your arm a little. Or don't buy the game. Since when does Nintendo owe anything to anyone?

Then again, I'm the sort of person who stands to play Guitar Hero. I feel like a tool if I just sit there when a game assumes I'm standing.
I never said I wouldn't buy the game. Hell, I probably will since I love LoZ so much. I just don't care for the idea of motion controls, since they have a reputation of being very finicky.
And I was probably being overly derisive, but I think I was just using you to vent. I can agree, if the controls are finicky and make the game more difficult to play in the wrong way, then yeah things aren't right. I just don't agree with the idea that getting up off the couch and gaming are meant to be mutually exclusive OR the idea that motion controls are in-and-of-themselves terrible. Most Wii games I've been interested enough to get are comfortably played in a seated position and those that aren't, like WarioWare or Wii Sports, I choose not to play if I feel like lounging. There's nothing wrong with those titles, they just cater to a different play style.

As for Zelda games, I don't really want a homogenized control scheme just so people who refuse to touch a wii-mote can pretend it's 1998 again. I would rather see a great MotionPlus setup. That being said, if they could pull off multiple controller options without dumbing down the MotionPlus control, then I don't see a problem with that.

Maybe I'm too forgiving of Nintendo. Maybe i just haven't played enough of any games this past year to be annoyed by motion control. Anyway, thanks for letting me rant a little, heh.
 

Macgyvercas

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rsvp42 said:
Macgyvercas said:
rsvp42 said:
Sign me up! I never understand the objection to the Wii's controls. I haven't really used the MotionPlus much (don't own Wii Sports Resort) but it never required that much exertion to flick your wrist. Seriously, who are these people complaining like:

Macgyvercas said:
Only talking about the motion controls, are they John? Did they say anything about options to use a classic controller if the player (like me) thinks motion controls are a waste of time? If not, it's time for me to yell at Nintendo...again.

They need to understand this. If I want to excercise, I'll ride a bike or go running. If I want to sit on my ass and do nothing, I'll play video games. AND I DO NOT WANT THOSE TWO PAST TIMES INTERMINGLING!! /rant
Heaven forbid we have to sit up or *gasp* stand to play our games. Fight through the carpal tunnel and muscle through that first heart attack, skipper. No one's asking you join the marines, just move your arm a little. Or don't buy the game. Since when does Nintendo owe anything to anyone?

Then again, I'm the sort of person who stands to play Guitar Hero. I feel like a tool if I just sit there when a game assumes I'm standing.
I never said I wouldn't buy the game. Hell, I probably will since I love LoZ so much. I just don't care for the idea of motion controls, since they have a reputation of being very finicky.
And I was probably being overly derisive, but I think I was just using you to vent. I can agree, if the controls are finicky and make the game more difficult to play in the wrong way, then yeah things aren't right. I just don't agree with the idea that getting up off the couch and gaming are meant to be mutually exclusive OR the idea that motion controls are in-and-of-themselves terrible. Most Wii games I've been interested enough to get are comfortably played in a seated position and those that aren't, like WarioWare or Wii Sports, I choose not to play if I feel like lounging. There's nothing wrong with those titles, they just cater to a different play style.

As for Zelda games, I don't really want a homogenized control scheme just so people who refuse to touch a wii-mote can pretend it's 1998 again. I would rather see a great MotionPlus setup. That being said, if they could pull off multiple controller options without dumbing down the MotionPlus control, then I don't see a problem with that.

Maybe I'm too forgiving of Nintendo. Maybe i just haven't played enough of any games this past year to be annoyed by motion control. Anyway, thanks for letting me rant a little, heh.
Fair enough. And don't worry about using me to rant. That's what I'm here for.

I would like it if Nintendo would provide an option for both control schemes, but if they don't, I'm at least hoping that they include the option to play left handed. Then I can cosplay while playing to practice sword fighting left handed.

If anything, the Motion Plus controls will be given priority and traditional controls as an afterthought/alternative. However, the way they're pitching it, it seems for the game to hit full potential, motion controls are required. As I said, I'll still buy it, still play it, and more than likely still love it. I don't absolutely refuse to use motion controls, and they can be rather fun. But an option to use a controller for when I don't feel like moving is appriciated.
 

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Zelda is the ONLY reason I would ever buy a Nintendo console, be it a N64, Gamecube, etc.

But I'm hesitant on this one, not because I doubt it's quality, but because I really haven't warmed up to the wii yet.

As for the art style, I think it looks great, considering what they were going for. I have a love/hate relationship with Wind Waker, and greatly preferred Twilight Princess, but this game doesn't look too aweful.

I predict it will be one of the "must own" games for the Wii, but not quite the killer app that keeps jaded wii owners, or attracts new people.
 

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Mr.Pandah said:
The game...honestly didn't impress me. They have a whole year though to improve it and work out all the kinks, but until I get through Twilight Princess, I won't be picking this up anytime soon. The rest of their event is really letting me down as well. Wii Party? Seriously? Mario Sports Mix? I won't buy them, but I'm sure there are others who will go out to purchase it.
Dude, you STILL haven't gotten through TP? It's been out for ages, man. God, stuck on the Water temple? That's not even the hardest temple in this game.