E3: Wii U

[Buizel91]

2. I don't remember the exact price, just that it was way too expensive and even more overpriced than the PS3 was, considering what you're getting for your money.

WRONG! Nintendo have said that the console will be priced to rival the 360 and PS3.

Meaning it will be about £300 max.

Sorry to burst your hate bubble

You just quadruple posted, that's not very good :-/

The pricing alone proves it, this console isn't next gen, it's current gen.
Sorry to burst your fanboy bubble

They were all different posts...

Plus i ain't fanboy, i have a 360 as my main gaming platform, i just don't see why people hate on a console that isn't even out.

 

[Buizel91]

2. I don't remember the exact price, just that it was way too expensive and even more overpriced than the PS3 was, considering what you're getting for your money.

WRONG! Nintendo have said that the console will be priced to rival the 360 and PS3.

Meaning it will be about £300 max.

Sorry to burst your hate bubble

Where did they say that?

It was either on Yahoo news or somewhere on here.

Either way i know i have seen it.

 

[Jacob Haggarty]

Honestly tell me you can't come up with 4 ways games can benefit from a touchscreen i Can

RTS games will now work on consoles.

Interactive Mini maps

Play 2 player splitscreen without splitting the screen

I can think of a ton more

That's 3 ways... Just thought i'd say.

 

[Imper1um]

My feeling about this: they made a console that does what the Wii should have had at launch. The stupid "iPad-esque" will be treated like a gimmick, and that will not change. To me, Nintendo just doesnt have any more cool new ideas. RIP Nintendo.

 

[w1ndscar]

I have faith that Nintendo knows what their doing, they wouldnt spend 3 years on a console concept that they honestly didnt have any real plans for to make it succeed would they? Im sure they have something up their sleeves

 

[TheGuy(wantstobe)]

2. I don't remember the exact price, just that it was way too expensive and even more overpriced than the PS3 was, considering what you're getting for your money.

WRONG! Nintendo have said that the console will be priced to rival the 360 and PS3.

Meaning it will be about £300 max.

Sorry to burst your hate bubble

Where did they say that?

It was either on Yahoo news or somewhere on here.

Either way i know i have seen it.

Lol? The only thing we know about the price is that Iwata said in Nikkei that it would "likely cost more than the Wii does now"

 

[Buizel91]

2. I don't remember the exact price, just that it was way too expensive and even more overpriced than the PS3 was, considering what you're getting for your money.

WRONG! Nintendo have said that the console will be priced to rival the 360 and PS3.

Meaning it will be about £300 max.

Sorry to burst your hate bubble

Where did they say that?

It was either on Yahoo news or somewhere on here.

Either way i know i have seen it.

Lol? The only thing we know about the price is that Iwata said in Nikkei that it would "likely cost more than the Wii does now"

Hence i said in another post it would probably be about £300?

It will obviously cost more than the Wii does now.

 

[Delusibeta]

Or am I quoting the Vita prices?

You're quoting Vita prices. There is AFAIK no price for the Wii, although Reggie did state (on a GameTrailer interview, AFAIK) they're aiming for a similar price that the 360 and the PS3 is selling at (so about $200).

This thread is a fine example of why Nintendo's stock is down. Misinformation is everywhere (aside from pricing, another misconception is that it's graphics capabilities are just at the 360 levels. From what I've seen and heard, that's bollocks: it's far more powerful, although that's not saying much these days).

 

[bomblord]

There's no pricing and it is guarunteed to be more powerful than teh current gen consoles the cpu alone proves that we just won't know how much more powerful till someone can confirm the gpu power

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I maintain that they are marketing this all wrong. People don't WANT the Wii2. People want something new. That's what Nintendo does........umm, I mean for the hardware side. They perfect new technologies and turn them into gaming status qua.

Which, don't get me wrong, is ABSOLUTELY what the WiiU is doing. I think it's a WONDERFUL peice of tech with tons of potential. But people don't see that. People see a fancy Wii peripheral (same color scheme, big N. Really?) and they instantly think "GIMMICK", which this isn't. In any way.

 

[Nokterne]

What's wrong with a NORMAL controller? The gamecube controller is still the best input device they've made.

 

[OldNewNewOld]

If Nintendo does something like a normal controller, people will ***** how Nintendo isn't innovation at all. If they are innovative, people ***** how they never do "normal" stuff. And for those who say "do the innovation right", that's not how it works. Innovation is made by trial and error. if you don't try, you can't innovate. When you innovate, there is always a big possibility that you will fail. But that only means that ANY innovation is better than non.

Well, Nintendo owns you all and there's nothing you can do.
Muahahahaha.... *cough* *cough*

Now seriously, I like the console.
It's great. I hope it won't be overpriced, but Satoru Iwata said it won't be cheap. (source [http://mynintendonews.com/2011/06/10/nintendo-wii-u-nintendo-president-says-wii-u-is-not-going-to-be-cheap/])

Also, the controller won't be for sell. You will get one and that's it. (source [http://mynintendonews.com/2011/06/08/nintendo-wii-u-wii-u-tablet-controllers-may-not-be-sold-separately-according-to-nintendo-rep/])
WiiU won't support GameCube games.(source [http://mynintendonews.com/2011/06/08/nintendo-wii-u-nintendo-has-confirmed-that-gamecube-games-wont-work-on-wii-u/])


Also, the name of the console is great and fits the concept.
We - You.
When you play solo, it's the "you" part. You play on the table. since there is only one such controller (read above), it's only for YOU. When you play with friends, it's the We part, you play with the Wii (We) remote. I like the wordplay. ^^


EDIT:
And some more info about the actually console. Not much but any information is better than non.
Link [http://kotaku.com/5810084/this-is-the-wii-u-console-in-my-ink+stained-hands]

 

[CommanderKirov]

So Yahtzee was actually right in that Extra Consideration column saying that Nintendo will make Microsoft and Sony a laughing stock by abandoning the prioritization of movement controls and replacing them with a powerful console with a quite interesting dual screen feature.


http://www.dorkly.com/article/17359/the-greatest-prank-nintendo-ever-pulled
This is relevant.

 

[Inkidu]

I was all for Nintendo to just keep adding comparatives and bit numbers.

We could have the Super Mega Nintendo (Whatever the binary is for it) now. Nope, now we have the WiiU. Wii University where people get degrees in horrible name creation.

 

[starwarsgeek]

What's wrong with a NORMAL controller? The gamecube controller is still the best input device they've made.

What's wrong with a console that can use any control mechanic? They have a normal controller--all Wii peripherals will work with the Wii U, so the classic controller is still around (hopefully they'll make a new model that is basically a gamecube controller with a fourth shoulder button), but they've also got the wii remote and the new controller. With the USB ports, there's also the possibility for keyboard and mouse, but I doubt many--if any--developers will actually think of that. This console is literally capable of using any type of control (well....except for kinect-style motion controllers, I guess). Why should we limit ourselves to simple gamepads?

Edit: And for anyone confused about the console (which is easy. People jumped to conclusions before we knew everything, which led to a lot of misinformation), Mr. BiH-Kira got it right.

If Nintendo does something like a normal controller, people will ***** how Nintendo isn't innovation at all. If they are innovative, people ***** how they never do "normal" stuff. And for those who say "do the innovation right", that's not how it works. Innovation is made by trial and error. if you don't try, you can't innovate. When you innovate, there is always a big possibility that you will fail. But that only means that ANY innovation is better than non.

Well, Nintendo owns you all and there's nothing you can do.
Muahahahaha.... *cough* *cough*

Now seriously, I like the console.
It's great. I hope it won't be overpriced, but Satoru Iwata said it won't be cheap. (source [http://mynintendonews.com/2011/06/10/nintendo-wii-u-nintendo-president-says-wii-u-is-not-going-to-be-cheap/])

Also, the controller won't be for sell. You will get one and that's it. (source [http://mynintendonews.com/2011/06/08/nintendo-wii-u-wii-u-tablet-controllers-may-not-be-sold-separately-according-to-nintendo-rep/])
WiiU won't support GameCube games.(source [http://mynintendonews.com/2011/06/08/nintendo-wii-u-nintendo-has-confirmed-that-gamecube-games-wont-work-on-wii-u/])


Also, the name of the console is great and fits the concept.
We - You.
When you play solo, it's the "you" part. You play on the table. since there is only one such controller (read above), it's only for YOU. When you play with friends, it's the We part, you play with the Wii (We) remote. I like the wordplay. ^^


EDIT:
And some more info about the actually console. Not much but any information is better than non.
Link [http://kotaku.com/5810084/this-is-the-wii-u-console-in-my-ink+stained-hands]

 

[CrystalShadow]

Judging by the look of the controller and what it does it will be very expensive. Also streaming the game on multiple controllers will result in a very expensive console. I think they should just make controllers without the screen but can perform the functions its required to.

My solution to the one controller problem.

It does look cool though. And after seeing all that stuff about 3ds I've decided to break down and buy one.

You win again nintendo.

Actually, they already did that.

For better or worse, you only get one touchscreen controller. Otherwise, all other players use Wii controllers.
(Which includes the classic controller - something with pretty much the same button layout)

So, yeah, they pretty much did exactly what you're suggesting.

 

[CrystalShadow]

What's wrong with a NORMAL controller? The gamecube controller is still the best input device they've made.

What's wrong with a console that can use any control mechanic? They have a normal controller--all Wii peripherals will work with the Wii U, so the classic controller is still around (hopefully they'll make a new model that is basically a gamecube controller with a fourth shoulder button), but they've also got the wii remote and the new controller. With the USB ports, there's also the possibility for keyboard and mouse, but I doubt many--if any--developers will actually think of that. This console is literally capable of using any type of control (well....except for kinect-style motion controllers, I guess). Why should we limit ourselves to simple gamepads?

Edit: And for anyone confused about the console (which is easy. People jumped to conclusions before we knew everything, which led to a lot of misinformation), Mr. BiH-Kira got it right.

Actually, they could in theory do kinect style controls too. (patent issues notwithstanding.)

If you look at how kinect sensors attach to an Xbox, they're basically using USB to do it. (As is the PS3 camera. - Actually, Ubisoft created a Wii camera attachment.)

Actually, depending on the amount of CPU time devoted to image processing, you could mimic some of the kinect functionality simply because the touchscreen controller contains a camera...

Edit: Wow. I'm really over-using the word actually here. Might want to keep an eye on that in future. XD

 

[starwarsgeek]

What's wrong with a NORMAL controller? The gamecube controller is still the best input device they've made.

What's wrong with a console that can use any control mechanic? They have a normal controller--all Wii peripherals will work with the Wii U, so the classic controller is still around (hopefully they'll make a new model that is basically a gamecube controller with a fourth shoulder button), but they've also got the wii remote and the new controller. With the USB ports, there's also the possibility for keyboard and mouse, but I doubt many--if any--developers will actually think of that. This console is literally capable of using any type of control (well....except for kinect-style motion controllers, I guess). Why should we limit ourselves to simple gamepads?

Edit: And for anyone confused about the console (which is easy. People jumped to conclusions before we knew everything, which led to a lot of misinformation), Mr. BiH-Kira got it right.

Actually, they could in theory do kinect style controls too. (patent issues notwithstanding.)

If you look at how kinect sensors attach to an Xbox, they're basically using USB to do it. (As is the PS3 camera. - Actually, Ubisoft created a Wii camera attachment.)

Actually, depending on the amount of CPU time devoted to image processing, you could mimic some of the kinect functionality simply because the touchscreen controller contains a camera...

Edit: Wow. I'm really over-using the word actually here. Might want to keep an eye on that in future. XD

Hmm, that is interesting. Of course, I only know of one well-received Kinect game that wouldn't work with other controllers. I doubt they'd want to include a camera controller for one type of game that can use it well.

I hope Microsoft proves me wrong and releases a ton of great games that could only work with Kinect, but I just don't see that happening.

Edit: I wonder...Wii U Controller stand peripheral. Set the controller in front of your TV for instant-Kinect. Could it happen? Probably not...I'm sure the Kinect has a much more advanced camera, but still...interesting possibility.

 

[JohnDoey]

The tech behind the controller is interesting, however my main concerns with the controller is how comfortable will using the controller be and if the screen resolution on the controller is as good as they are saying, what effect this will have on the battery life. Though we probably won't find this out until the console is released and we can have a go of it ourselves.

On a positive note I think having a touch screen on the controller may allow for a better control system for RTS games on a console, something that has plagued console RTSs is the limited practicality of using a controller.

According to some articles the controllers fairly comfortable once you adjust, don't know about the battery life though.