EA Blames Casuals For Falling Old Republic Subscriber Numbers

[easternflame]

Medal of Honor made money?

[sub][sub]Must... not... add... "u"... to... "honor"[/sub][/sub]

Why the fuck do you wanna misspell it?

Because of England, unless you were being funny...?


Let me tell you EA, I paid for a month. I'm no casual, I just thought it was shit.

 

[easternflame]

aGRRREEDD. And casuals don't pay, casuals play free.

 

[John the Gamer]

I never played it at all. I refuse to pay monthly fees to almost any game, and MMO's are usually not worth that money. Food is. So is rent. Health insurance. Dwarf Fortress.

Health insurance isn't, if you are healthy. Maybe catastrophic insurance, but that's it, then everything else out of pocket, then have a ton of money left over to play multiple MMOs and buy better food.

Sorry, but we are forced to get basic health insurance in my country. So we have to pay up... roughly 100 euros every month. From 18 to death. And I don't play MMO just because I don't want to pay, I just don't like the damn soulsucking black holes. The only one I dabble in occassionally is World of Tanks. But then again, that one is free.

 

[babinro]

I quit my SWTOR subscription because I'm a casual gamer.

After my initial months of playing the game hardcore style, I'd only want to put in a few hours a week. This isn't realistic with a $15.00 subscription fee so I left.

I love that SWTOR plays like a single player game, if only it didn't cost so much more than one. I just hope this goes free to play in the coming years so I can revisit it.

 

[Bryce323]

I hit max level fairly quickly and then did PVP. The broken Ilum, 3 warzones, and the frustration of the daily/weekly slot machine for the PVP gear grind sealed the deal for me. There wasn't enough content to justify continuing my subscription and I sure wasn't going to pay to mindlessly PVP.

I had no interest in the PVE treadmill, even if it has a new coat of space-paint. And starting another character for the story is a load of crap. So you do the unique story quest for a planet, but you still have to do ALL THE OTHER SAME VANILLA QUESTS to actually level. Sorry, not worth it.

I had hoped they'd take this MMO in another direction, that they'd differentiate themselves, but alas, it looks like they are trying even harder to conform to WoW. Blame it on the casuals, fine, lets see what they say next quarter when they lose another 400k subs.

 

[shrekfan246]

But according to the evidence they released two very bad games (DA2 ME3) in the span of making Old Republic.
One of which is arguably the most important game release in history. (Mass Effect 3 was basically the make or break moment for the future of player controlled narrative series, and to be charitable with my descriptive adjectives it was completely FUBAR)

Actually, they made one game that had mediocre parts due to recycled assets and a stylistic change in how the narrative worked (Dragon Age II), and one game that was absolutely amazing as an ending to a trilogy, which in itself had a poorly thought-out final ten minutes (Mass Effect 3). Because the internet is the internet, this then got amplified into "RAAAAAWR!! BIOWARE IS THE WORST DEVELOPER TO EVER EXIST!!!! THEY SOLD THEIR SOULS OUT TO EA!!!! I'M NEVER GOING TO SUPPORT THEM EVER AGAIN!!!!!" because the games didn't live up to either their hype or their press reviews.

Saying either of the games was "very bad" is misrepresenting the actual quality of the games in question. Daikatana is a "very bad" game. Superman 64 is a "very bad" game. Bubsy 3D is a "very bad" game. Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing is a "very bad" game. Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3 are decent games with disappointing parts and squandered potential. Ugh, I don't even know why I bother anymore, this post will probably only receive rabid attacks about how wrong I am to dare defending anything about Bioware.

 

[Freechoice]

Medal of Honor made money?

[sub][sub]Must... not... add... "u"... to... "honor"[/sub][/sub]

Why the fuck do you wanna misspell it?

We could ask the same about Americans

the whole damn english language is adaptations and misspellings from other languages... way to turn this into a nationality issue.

although, to be quaint, this is an american based website, if you really wanna nitpick, it's gonna be honor.

(although the prick you quoted probably didn't realize most words are spelled different across seas, rather than all english being the same.)

HEY THANKS, BUDDY.

And I'm not the one who started it.

This [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.374462-EA-Blames-Filthy-Casuals-For-Falling-Old-Republic-Subscriber-Numbers#14508767] is the one that started it.

I'm not really seeing what Zhukov started *looks a bit closer* hmmm, it's as I suspected, he started nothing!

Seriously, he said "must not add "u" to honor" because us across the pond spell honour with a "u". Just like we spell colour with a "u" and Americans don't. It was clearly just a joke and you're the one who got all serious and jumped down his throat about it. You, sir, are the one who started it.

Uh, no. It had fuck all to do with the topic and he just did it to be a pedantic anglophone. Like every other one on this site. There is only one pedantic anglophone that manages to do it right and he's got a web series.

I think you need to go and get your bottle of warm milk and stop taking things so seriously.

Do you have an actual response or are you just going with the accusatory argument?

you were the one throwing random ad-hominem accusations around.

Uh, actually, that's not true either. I just asked him why the fuck he wanted to misspell a word. I was the one called a prick just because some guy thought I was ignorant.

Your original post was

A. Wrong about misspelling considering we spell honour with a u

and

B) came across as hostile with the unnecessary swear word in the post.

Now go to your corner and calm down.

Nope. Wrong on both accounts. Stop being so thin skinned and take the humor.

"Oh, dash it all. Those silly Yanks across the pond think to spell honour without the u? Preposterous! I say, my jimmies have been thoroughly rustled!"

And you're wearing a top hat and monocle, sipping earl grey, hot. That's what I imagine. This is an American site talking about an American made game and you're trying say he was right in his attempt at a joke whilst simultaneously failing to get my own.

Medal of Honor made money?

[sub][sub]Must... not... add... "u"... to... "honor"[/sub][/sub]

Why the fuck do you wanna misspell it?

Because of England, unless you were being funny...?

FINALLY.



Someone with their head out of their arse able to understand a joke.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

Kungfu_Teddybear uses snip. It's super effective!

There was nothing humorous about your post. Yes you got called a prick by someone, that was unnecessary and he got the warning he deserved. But you were coming across as hostile, if it was a joke, it was a very poor one because of the display of hostility.

Although I don't think you were joking, you just said in the post I have just snipped that you thought he was being ignorant so I think you were serious.

 

[Johnson McGee]

Impressive that he even remembered Simcity exists considering they haven't made (a real) one in years.

 

[Sansha]

Think I'll just stick with EVE online, casuals don't honestly exist in that game.

Well they do. They're called 'targets'.

 

[Graill]

Casuals are ruining their game? Thats a big laugh. Last time i checked Gamers play games, not labels that little kids use. The ONLY people ruining SWTOR are the developers.

 

[elilupe]

I think some of these important gaming people who have all been blaming used games, casual games, and indie devs for lower-than-expected sales and falling subscriptions should take a page from Molyneux's book and realize that maybe their game isn't the perfect, innocent victim of the consumers and that there might be something wrong with their damn game.

 

[kajinking]

Think I'll just stick with EVE online, casuals don't honestly exist in that game.

Hell, hardcore players really dont exist in that game.

ITS ALL BOTS, IT HAS TO BE.

no sane person can say with a straight face that a visualization of Microsoft Excel is any fun!


OT: lol, didn't EA a while back say they were making games to appeal to a wider audience, thus casuals?

Now their prize game is losing subscribers they are complaining that it's casuals who are leaving?

Here's something, maybe if you didn't make WoW with Lightsabers, people would of like the game more.

Even in Galaxies last minutes, it still had a combat system that made it stand out, it wasn't good, but at least it was different.

I take offense at that, now if you'll excuse me I have to spend five hours doing math to figure out the theoretical DPS of my battleship if I swap out a single piece of equipment and engage targets at 45 degree angle while traveling at 107m/s with my meta 6 tracking computer set to 120% power

 

[Scorpid]

I blame EA. I always blame EA and I always will let them rot in their stew of purely greed driven games and marketing... I dislike EA alot.

 

[FFHAuthor]

Medal of Honor made money?

[sub][sub]Must... not... add... "u"... to... "honor"[/sub][/sub]

Why the fuck do you wanna misspell it?

We could ask the same about Americans

I always maintain, we speak 'American' over here and all you members of the Empire speak 'English'. It's only polite considering what we've done to your language.

 

[Fearzone]

I never played it at all. I refuse to pay monthly fees to almost any game, and MMO's are usually not worth that money. Food is. So is rent. Health insurance. Dwarf Fortress.

Health insurance isn't, if you are healthy. Maybe catastrophic insurance, but that's it, then everything else out of pocket, then have a ton of money left over to play multiple MMOs and buy better food.

Sorry, but we are forced to get basic health insurance in my country. So we have to pay up... roughly 100 euros every month. From 18 to death. And I don't play MMO just because I don't want to pay, I just don't like the damn soulsucking black holes. The only one I dabble in occassionally is World of Tanks. But then again, that one is free.

Interesting. 100 euros a month does not sound unreasonable. Might I be so bold to as what country are you from, how old are you, and is the price you pay affected by age and pre-existing conditions? PM me if you are ok answering to me but don't want to put it up on the forums. Thx =)

 

[Freechoice]

Kungfu_Teddybear uses snip. It's super effective!

There was nothing humorous about your post. Yes you got called a prick by someone, that was unnecessary and he got the warning he deserved. But you were coming across as hostile, if it was a joke, it was a very poor one because of the display of hostility.

Although I don't think you were joking, you just said in the post I have just snipped that you thought he was being ignorant so I think you were serious.

I was the one called a prick just because some guy thought I was ignorant.

that you thought he was being ignorant so I think you were serious.

I see this problem on the Escapist a lot. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1k0ZDzdHw#t=4m03s]

 

[Zelcor]

Casuals are ruining their game? Thats a big laugh. Last time i checked Gamers play games, not labels that little kids use. The ONLY people ruining SWTOR are the developers.

Actually in MMOs the line between casuals and hardcore players is pretty damn huge.

And for years mmo developers have been making the meta-game their strongest aspect of the game specifically FOR the hardcore crowd because they know the hardcore players are not going to drop the game out of the blue keep their subscription going and play the game for hours on end